Heckel X Turquoise 2012

[Eddie]

Day 1

Here they are seeing the future! LOL

http://imageshack.us/a/img9/8919/dsc01580lc.jpg

Group shot

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3718/dsc01577cu.jpg

[Dogvet06]

hah love the first pic! Cant wait to see them grow up!

[Poco]

You got quite a few there. Good luck with them!

[dadecountyalan]

eddie, where and when did you get those lil guys

[Eddie]

eddie, where and when did you get those lil guys

Just this afternoon, from a breeder/distributor in Madrid.

http://www.pecesdisco.com/EMPRESA.html

[Cosgrovb]

I am doing the same project. I'll be watching. How old is the fry to date?

[Eddie]

I am doing the same project. I'll be watching. How old is the fry to date?

I believe they are around 6 weeks. I'll ask the breeder to confirm though.

[Second Hand Pat]

Super nice set of young'uns Eddie. You can already see the Heckel in them.

[Eddie]

Super nice set of young'uns Eddie. You can already see the Heckel in them.

Thanks Pat! We shall see! :) I'm gonna push these guys to the max.

[Eddie]

Gettin them started early...in the mix.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/DSC01598_zpsc050e808.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/DSC01601_zpse9768d92.jpg

[Kingdom Come Discus]

Very nice Eddie.

[Eddie]

Very nice Eddie.

Thanks Kraig...I'm eager to grow these suckers out. :)

[Second Hand Pat]

Eddie, they look a little unsure.

[Eddie]

Eddie, they look a little unsure.

LOL, they aren't destroying it, only pecking at it. Soon they will be more than sure. :)

[Eddie]

They started destroying the mix on day 2 and its their staple.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turqs/th_Feeding.jpg (http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turqs/?action=view&current=Feeding.mp4)

[Second Hand Pat]

Love it Eddie and the Bond theme is perfect.

[Altum Nut]

Love that cross Eddie.
Wasn't long till they took to your mix.
They will consider it candy from now on.
Did you get to see any Adults from the cross?
They will be stunning in a year or so.

...Ralph

[Eddie]

Love it Eddie and the Bond theme is perfect.

:) Thanks Pat


Love that cross Eddie.
Wasn't long till they took to your mix.
They will consider it candy from now on.
Did you get to see any Adults from the cross?
They will be stunning in a year or so.

...Ralph

They were curious on day one but then they messed up and had a bite. LOL ADDICTS! Sure did, the breeder sent a video of the parents, heckel male and turq female. Im excited about the outcome as these are from the first batch of babies they had. Hope all is well!

[Altum Nut]

You got me stirred up now Eddie after looking at these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AGx2zNg5x8

...Ralph

[Eddie]

Damn! Thats a KILLER pair too!

[Second Hand Pat]

That is a sweet pair Ralph

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Beautiful looking guys Eddie. You must be so proud!

Great shape and color too.

[Eddie]

Beautiful looking guys Eddie. You must be so proud!

Great shape and color too.

Thanks Jeff, although I can't take credit for them as I didn't raise them from wrigglers, I do hope to grow them out well. :)

[Eddie]

6 days in tank, keeping them nice and FAT!
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01912.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01913.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01915.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01917.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01918.jpg

[Dogvet06]

look at them fat bellies! good job eddie

[Poco]

look at them fat bellies! good job eddie

One on the bottom right in the 3rd pic looks like he is going pop :D

[Oscarsx]

How old are these Eddie and size ;)

- oz

[Eddie]

look at them fat bellies! good job eddie

The fatter belly...the better. LOL


One on the bottom right in the 3rd pic looks like he is going pop :D

Yeah, several of them look like walnuts. :)


How old are these Eddie and size ;)

- oz

They are less than two inches and 7-8 weeks old.

[Trier20]

Look at those fat little turds! lol :D

[Eddie]

Look at those fat little turds! lol :D

Walnuts with fins. LOL

[fattubwhale]

Yup, those are some fat boys :) looking good!

[damba]

They will be nice adults.

I live in Eastbourne - the sunniest place in Britain. That isn't really saying much...
Coffee please - black and strong in pint mugs, for best results at least 6 a day.

[Eddie]

They will be nice adults.

I live in Eastbourne - the sunniest place in Britain. That isn't really saying much...
Coffee please - black and strong in pint mugs, for best results at least 6 a day.

I generally have 2 each 4 shot espressos every day so thats my caffeine fix.

[CrazyAngels]

Eddie my brother, so nice to see you at it. Sorry I'd been away a bit but just caught this post. You need to bring those guys home. I've got a tank set up here in good old Santa Maria waiting for them.. Those are sure nice. Take care.

[Eddie]

Eddie my brother, so nice to see you at it. Sorry I'd been away a bit but just caught this post. You need to bring those guys home. I've got a tank set up here in good old Santa Maria waiting for them.. Those are sure nice. Take care.

Thanks Jorge, I'll grow them out and send them your way, just give me your bank details so I can send the bill. LOL Hope all is well my friend!

[dbfzurowski]

Hey Eddie, nice fish.
I dont see any with the heckel center bar... is that something that develops later or not at all?

[Eddie]

Hey Eddie, nice fish.
I dont see any with the heckel center bar... is that something that develops later or not at all?

Should be later so we'll see. ;)

[Eddie]

Aspiring to be a bullfrog. LOL

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC02282.jpg

[Dogvet06]

love it!

[Poco]

That is not a discus, is it :D

[Trier20]

Lol!

[Eddie]

Always hungry, always begging!

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/2%20weeks%20later/DSC03014.jpg

[Second Hand Pat]

That is how you want them :)

[shoveltrash]

Aspiring to be a bullfrog. LOL:laugh: love it!

[Eddie]

About 11 weeks

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/11%20weeks/DSC03341.jpg

[Cosgrovb]

Looking fat. Great potential.

[dadecountyalan]

i love them. they are going to look great

[Cosgrovb]

When do you expect to see the more pronounced Heckel bar or bars?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/20/na2aneje.jpg

[Eddie]

I have no idea. My last heckel crosses were about 3-3.5"s when the 5th bar was more prominent.

[Cosgrovb]

The 1st bar is more prominent on all. I hypothesize that is a good sign?

[Eddie]

The 1st bar is more prominent on all. I hypothesize that is a good sign?

lol, we'll see. The 2 largest have a slightly darker 5th bar so I assume it will be more prominent as they develop.

[vicdiscus]

Hey Eddie,

Your fish are looking GREAT! Thank you for sharing with your lovely photos!

keep up post when they will turn out!

Good luck


my old friend!

Duncan

[camuth8]

Those do look amazing! Can't wait to see 'em grown out. :)

[Eddie]

Hey Eddie,

Your fish are looking GREAT! Thank you for sharing with your lovely photos!

keep up post when they will turn out!

Good luck


my old friend!

Duncan

Thanks Duncan! Hope all is well.


Those do look amazing! Can't wait to see 'em grown out. :)

Thanks! Me too! :)

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Beautiful shape on them Eddie. Are they only eating your beefheart mix?

[Eddie]

Beautiful shape on them Eddie. Are they only eating your beefheart mix?

Yup, only the mix.

[Second Hand Pat]

Seafood mix only Eddie?

[Eddie]

Seafood mix only Eddie?

It's my new bison/seafood mix Pat. Pretty similar to my old seafood mix but with the addition of bison steak.

[Second Hand Pat]

Oh yea Eddie, should be a good mix. :)

[Cosgrovb]

How is the bison meat on water quality? Everyone knows what beefheart does to the water....

[Eddie]

Oh yea Eddie, should be a good mix. :)

Yeah, its what I've feeding to my Royal Blues for several months now. ;)


How is the bison meat on water quality? Everyone knows what beefheart does to the water....

Perfect, I do 100% water changes daily. Water is crystal clear! ;)

[nc0gnet0]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/20/na2aneje.jpg

These look very impressive! Can I ask how many you culled (if any) to have such an impressive group?

Rick

[Len]

About 11 weeks

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/11%20weeks/DSC03341.jpg

Wow Eddie those look super nice, and the size seems massive for their age. I can't wait to see them as they develop even more.

[Pardal]

Eddie I enjoyed the whole post , fat not so little buggers,lol . and it looks like you find a gem with that place in Madrid thanks for sharing bro.
I am fish less right now until transfer a bunch of empty tanks and the wild season just starting.....:(


Julian.

[Jack_98765]

Very nice fish there.

[Cosgrovb]

Eddie - Did you get a chance to view the parents?

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Shapes are awesome on these guys. Nice color pattern starting to form as well. Can't wait to see them in another month or so.

Good job Eddie!

[Poco]

They are huge for just 11 weeks. Please share you secrets Eddie :D

[Kingdom Come Discus]

I love them!!!

[dadecountyalan]

They are huge for just 11 weeks. Please share you secrets Eddie :D

that seafood mix he makes with daily 100% water changes. hes told us before lol

[Eddie]

Thanks ALL! They aren't that big. lol

Rick, I ordered 10 of them and received 11. Not all of them are what I would call nice but about 8 of them are growing nicely. I'll surely remove the ones that I don't like as they grow out. ;)

Cos, I did get to see the parents. I posted a video of them in another of my threads. You can't see the (turq) Mom too well but you can see the Heckel (dad) well.

[nc0gnet0]

I see Eddie, guess I should have re-read the start of this thread. I had thought you had spawned them yourself, thus the question.

Rick

[Eddie]

I see Eddie, guess I should have re-read the start of this thread. I had thought you had spawned them yourself, thus the question.

Rick

Ah, I was wondering, thought you might have been thinking I bred them. Its tough getting a batch of 12 each 1-1.5" fish and having half of them turn out very nice. Much easier growing out an entire batch of fry and culling heavy IMO.

[Eddie]

13 weeks. This is just after a water change. They went 7 days without a water change and 2 feedings a day with Mal's FDBWs while I was up in Germany.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/13%20weeks/DSC_0067.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/13%20weeks/DSC_0066.jpg

[dadecountyalan]

starting to develop patterns

[Chicago Discus]

They look great Eddie they look very close to my blues LOL.....Josie

[Eddie]

starting to develop patterns

Indeed


They look great Eddie they look very close to my blues LOL.....Josie

Thanks Josie. Its interesting how these are shaped. I was looking at a tank of full grown wild caught heckels and the shape is very distinct.

[Eddie]

Almost 6 weeks in tank. Before and after shot. ;)

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20weeks%20later/6weeks.jpg

[mlov1022]

Very nice Eddie.

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Very nice shape and color pattern Eddie. Good luck with them.

[TURQ64]

Looking good, Eddie....all of my Heckel X's have matured into very round fish,strongly influenced from the Heckel genetics.It also looks as tho' they throw the same in their fry..These of yours will obviously do the same...good luck with them..Gary

[Eddie]

Thanks! Heres a quick video the breeder sent to me of Dad (Heckel) and Mom (Blue Turq).



http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/videos/th_VID-20121212-WA000.jpg (http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/videos/?action=view&current=VID-20121212-WA000.mp4)

[Poco]

Very nice shape and pattern. Do you have any fav among them?

[Eddie]

Very nice shape and pattern. Do you have any fav among them?

A few. LOL My absolute favorite is one that has a broken hard ray on its dorsal. Its not completely broken off, only bent to the side. I think it was damaged from transit. Its not a big deal as the fish will still grow nicely. I'll get a shot of it in the coming days. ;)

[Eddie]

Here's a quick update on these. There is a high body fish in the group. Not my particular liking but he's tall. lol

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0343_zpsb7d9a912.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0338_zps45c6bcd1.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0334_zpse7957b05.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0333_zps369bad59.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0332_zps1efbce32.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0313_zps5043bf48.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0306_zpsbb1e41a3.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0296_zps4dd00ef0.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0284_zps88d705ef.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0278_zpsd4f8d582.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0276_zps3fc3113f.jpg

[William Palumbo]

Very nice Eddie!...I really like the shape. Just right height wise. Any higher and to ME, start to look funny. Great job...Bill

[Eddie]

Thanks Bill. I appreciate it. Good to see you in the mix on here. ;)

[William Palumbo]

Thanks Eddie...You know how it is...it gets in your blood!...Bill

[Second Hand Pat]

These have a very unique look Eddie. I like it. They sure did grow out nice.

[Eddie]

These have a very unique look Eddie. I like it. They sure did grow out nice.

Thanks Pat. None of them have heckel characteristics, maybe a little. Also, NONE of them are similar. lol The tiny runt of the group (literally 3 inches) carries the best traits. Go figure...smh

[Second Hand Pat]

Eddie, you can see the heckel influence. Doesn't it always happen that way. It might still grow some.

[Eddie]

Eddie, you can see the heckel influence. Doesn't it always happen that way. It might still grow some.

LOL, I highly doubt it but possible. Wilds have strange growth patterns.