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Eddie
10-23-2012, 05:48 PM
Day 1

Here they are seeing the future! LOL

http://imageshack.us/a/img9/8919/dsc01580lc.jpg

Group shot

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3718/dsc01577cu.jpg

Dogvet06
10-23-2012, 05:49 PM
hah love the first pic! Cant wait to see them grow up!

Poco
10-23-2012, 05:52 PM
You got quite a few there. Good luck with them!

dadecountyalan
10-23-2012, 05:57 PM
eddie, where and when did you get those lil guys

Eddie
10-23-2012, 06:06 PM
eddie, where and when did you get those lil guys

Just this afternoon, from a breeder/distributor in Madrid.

http://www.pecesdisco.com/EMPRESA.html

Cosgrovb
10-23-2012, 06:10 PM
I am doing the same project. I'll be watching. How old is the fry to date?

Eddie
10-23-2012, 06:13 PM
I am doing the same project. I'll be watching. How old is the fry to date?

I believe they are around 6 weeks. I'll ask the breeder to confirm though.

Second Hand Pat
10-23-2012, 06:38 PM
Super nice set of young'uns Eddie. You can already see the Heckel in them.

Eddie
10-23-2012, 06:46 PM
Super nice set of young'uns Eddie. You can already see the Heckel in them.

Thanks Pat! We shall see! :) I'm gonna push these guys to the max.

Eddie
10-23-2012, 07:42 PM
Gettin them started early...in the mix.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/DSC01598_zpsc050e808.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/DSC01601_zpse9768d92.jpg

Kingdom Come Discus
10-23-2012, 07:48 PM
Very nice Eddie.

Eddie
10-23-2012, 08:03 PM
Very nice Eddie.

Thanks Kraig...I'm eager to grow these suckers out. :)

Second Hand Pat
10-23-2012, 08:56 PM
Eddie, they look a little unsure.

Eddie
10-23-2012, 09:44 PM
Eddie, they look a little unsure.

LOL, they aren't destroying it, only pecking at it. Soon they will be more than sure. :)

Eddie
10-27-2012, 01:26 PM
They started destroying the mix on day 2 and its their staple.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turqs/th_Feeding.jpg (http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turqs/?action=view&current=Feeding.mp4)

Second Hand Pat
10-27-2012, 03:18 PM
Love it Eddie and the Bond theme is perfect.

Altum Nut
10-27-2012, 04:20 PM
Love that cross Eddie.
Wasn't long till they took to your mix.
They will consider it candy from now on.
Did you get to see any Adults from the cross?
They will be stunning in a year or so.

...Ralph

Eddie
10-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Love it Eddie and the Bond theme is perfect.

:) Thanks Pat


Love that cross Eddie.
Wasn't long till they took to your mix.
They will consider it candy from now on.
Did you get to see any Adults from the cross?
They will be stunning in a year or so.

...Ralph

They were curious on day one but then they messed up and had a bite. LOL ADDICTS! Sure did, the breeder sent a video of the parents, heckel male and turq female. Im excited about the outcome as these are from the first batch of babies they had. Hope all is well!

Altum Nut
10-27-2012, 04:29 PM
You got me stirred up now Eddie after looking at these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AGx2zNg5x8

...Ralph

Eddie
10-27-2012, 04:39 PM
Damn! Thats a KILLER pair too!

Second Hand Pat
10-27-2012, 05:03 PM
That is a sweet pair Ralph

DiscusLoverJeff
10-27-2012, 05:03 PM
Beautiful looking guys Eddie. You must be so proud!

Great shape and color too.

Eddie
10-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Beautiful looking guys Eddie. You must be so proud!

Great shape and color too.

Thanks Jeff, although I can't take credit for them as I didn't raise them from wrigglers, I do hope to grow them out well. :)

Eddie
10-29-2012, 09:25 AM
6 days in tank, keeping them nice and FAT!
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01912.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01913.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01915.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01917.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC01918.jpg

Dogvet06
10-29-2012, 09:27 AM
look at them fat bellies! good job eddie

Poco
10-29-2012, 11:08 AM
look at them fat bellies! good job eddie

One on the bottom right in the 3rd pic looks like he is going pop :D

Oscarsx
10-29-2012, 01:10 PM
How old are these Eddie and size ;)

- oz

Eddie
10-29-2012, 01:14 PM
look at them fat bellies! good job eddie

The fatter belly...the better. LOL


One on the bottom right in the 3rd pic looks like he is going pop :D

Yeah, several of them look like walnuts. :)


How old are these Eddie and size ;)

- oz

They are less than two inches and 7-8 weeks old.

Trier20
10-29-2012, 10:15 PM
Look at those fat little turds! lol :D

Eddie
10-30-2012, 12:29 AM
Look at those fat little turds! lol :D

Walnuts with fins. LOL

fattubwhale
10-30-2012, 12:30 AM
Yup, those are some fat boys :) looking good!

damba
10-30-2012, 03:37 AM
They will be nice adults.

I live in Eastbourne - the sunniest place in Britain. That isn't really saying much...
Coffee please - black and strong in pint mugs, for best results at least 6 a day.

Eddie
10-30-2012, 10:55 AM
They will be nice adults.

I live in Eastbourne - the sunniest place in Britain. That isn't really saying much...
Coffee please - black and strong in pint mugs, for best results at least 6 a day.

I generally have 2 each 4 shot espressos every day so thats my caffeine fix.

CrazyAngels
10-30-2012, 11:19 AM
Eddie my brother, so nice to see you at it. Sorry I'd been away a bit but just caught this post. You need to bring those guys home. I've got a tank set up here in good old Santa Maria waiting for them.. Those are sure nice. Take care.

Eddie
10-30-2012, 07:58 PM
Eddie my brother, so nice to see you at it. Sorry I'd been away a bit but just caught this post. You need to bring those guys home. I've got a tank set up here in good old Santa Maria waiting for them.. Those are sure nice. Take care.

Thanks Jorge, I'll grow them out and send them your way, just give me your bank details so I can send the bill. LOL Hope all is well my friend!

dbfzurowski
10-31-2012, 11:27 PM
Hey Eddie, nice fish.
I dont see any with the heckel center bar... is that something that develops later or not at all?

Eddie
11-01-2012, 03:46 PM
Hey Eddie, nice fish.
I dont see any with the heckel center bar... is that something that develops later or not at all?

Should be later so we'll see. ;)

Eddie
11-01-2012, 05:16 PM
Aspiring to be a bullfrog. LOL

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20days%20later/DSC02282.jpg

Dogvet06
11-01-2012, 05:20 PM
love it!

Poco
11-02-2012, 01:02 AM
That is not a discus, is it :D

Trier20
11-02-2012, 01:54 AM
Lol!

Eddie
11-11-2012, 07:41 PM
Always hungry, always begging!

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/2%20weeks%20later/DSC03014.jpg

Second Hand Pat
11-11-2012, 09:20 PM
That is how you want them :)

shoveltrash
11-12-2012, 08:09 AM
Aspiring to be a bullfrog. LOL:laugh: love it!

Eddie
11-19-2012, 09:18 PM
About 11 weeks

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/11%20weeks/DSC03341.jpg

Cosgrovb
11-19-2012, 09:37 PM
Looking fat. Great potential.

dadecountyalan
11-19-2012, 11:04 PM
i love them. they are going to look great

Cosgrovb
11-19-2012, 11:10 PM
When do you expect to see the more pronounced Heckel bar or bars?

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/20/na2aneje.jpg

Eddie
11-20-2012, 12:21 AM
I have no idea. My last heckel crosses were about 3-3.5"s when the 5th bar was more prominent.

Cosgrovb
11-20-2012, 02:37 AM
The 1st bar is more prominent on all. I hypothesize that is a good sign?

Eddie
11-20-2012, 11:07 AM
The 1st bar is more prominent on all. I hypothesize that is a good sign?

lol, we'll see. The 2 largest have a slightly darker 5th bar so I assume it will be more prominent as they develop.

vicdiscus
11-20-2012, 03:20 PM
Hey Eddie,

Your fish are looking GREAT! Thank you for sharing with your lovely photos!

keep up post when they will turn out!

Good luck


my old friend!

Duncan

camuth8
11-20-2012, 06:46 PM
Those do look amazing! Can't wait to see 'em grown out. :)

Eddie
11-21-2012, 12:47 PM
Hey Eddie,

Your fish are looking GREAT! Thank you for sharing with your lovely photos!

keep up post when they will turn out!

Good luck


my old friend!

Duncan

Thanks Duncan! Hope all is well.


Those do look amazing! Can't wait to see 'em grown out. :)

Thanks! Me too! :)

DiscusLoverJeff
11-21-2012, 01:13 PM
Beautiful shape on them Eddie. Are they only eating your beefheart mix?

Eddie
11-21-2012, 10:04 PM
Beautiful shape on them Eddie. Are they only eating your beefheart mix?

Yup, only the mix.

Second Hand Pat
11-21-2012, 10:07 PM
Seafood mix only Eddie?

Eddie
11-22-2012, 12:02 AM
Seafood mix only Eddie?

It's my new bison/seafood mix Pat. Pretty similar to my old seafood mix but with the addition of bison steak.

Second Hand Pat
11-22-2012, 01:15 AM
Oh yea Eddie, should be a good mix. :)

Cosgrovb
11-22-2012, 01:16 AM
How is the bison meat on water quality? Everyone knows what beefheart does to the water....

Eddie
11-22-2012, 01:33 AM
Oh yea Eddie, should be a good mix. :)

Yeah, its what I've feeding to my Royal Blues for several months now. ;)


How is the bison meat on water quality? Everyone knows what beefheart does to the water....

Perfect, I do 100% water changes daily. Water is crystal clear! ;)

nc0gnet0
11-23-2012, 12:15 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/20/na2aneje.jpg

These look very impressive! Can I ask how many you culled (if any) to have such an impressive group?

Rick

Len
11-23-2012, 12:18 AM
About 11 weeks

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/11%20weeks/DSC03341.jpg

Wow Eddie those look super nice, and the size seems massive for their age. I can't wait to see them as they develop even more.

Pardal
11-23-2012, 02:27 AM
Eddie I enjoyed the whole post , fat not so little buggers,lol . and it looks like you find a gem with that place in Madrid thanks for sharing bro.
I am fish less right now until transfer a bunch of empty tanks and the wild season just starting.....:(


Julian.

Jack_98765
11-23-2012, 08:00 AM
Very nice fish there.

Cosgrovb
11-24-2012, 11:06 AM
Eddie - Did you get a chance to view the parents?

DiscusLoverJeff
11-25-2012, 10:33 AM
Shapes are awesome on these guys. Nice color pattern starting to form as well. Can't wait to see them in another month or so.

Good job Eddie!

Poco
11-25-2012, 02:15 PM
They are huge for just 11 weeks. Please share you secrets Eddie :D

Kingdom Come Discus
11-25-2012, 02:27 PM
I love them!!!

dadecountyalan
11-25-2012, 02:33 PM
They are huge for just 11 weeks. Please share you secrets Eddie :D

that seafood mix he makes with daily 100% water changes. hes told us before lol

Eddie
11-26-2012, 03:36 PM
Thanks ALL! They aren't that big. lol

Rick, I ordered 10 of them and received 11. Not all of them are what I would call nice but about 8 of them are growing nicely. I'll surely remove the ones that I don't like as they grow out. ;)

Cos, I did get to see the parents. I posted a video of them in another of my threads. You can't see the (turq) Mom too well but you can see the Heckel (dad) well.

nc0gnet0
11-27-2012, 12:11 AM
I see Eddie, guess I should have re-read the start of this thread. I had thought you had spawned them yourself, thus the question.

Rick

Eddie
11-27-2012, 08:23 AM
I see Eddie, guess I should have re-read the start of this thread. I had thought you had spawned them yourself, thus the question.

Rick

Ah, I was wondering, thought you might have been thinking I bred them. Its tough getting a batch of 12 each 1-1.5" fish and having half of them turn out very nice. Much easier growing out an entire batch of fry and culling heavy IMO.

Eddie
12-07-2012, 03:02 PM
13 weeks. This is just after a water change. They went 7 days without a water change and 2 feedings a day with Mal's FDBWs while I was up in Germany.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/13%20weeks/DSC_0067.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/13%20weeks/DSC_0066.jpg

dadecountyalan
12-07-2012, 04:29 PM
starting to develop patterns

ChicagoDiscus
12-07-2012, 04:58 PM
They look great Eddie they look very close to my blues LOL.....Josie

Eddie
12-07-2012, 06:23 PM
starting to develop patterns

Indeed


They look great Eddie they look very close to my blues LOL.....Josie

Thanks Josie. Its interesting how these are shaped. I was looking at a tank of full grown wild caught heckels and the shape is very distinct.

Eddie
12-14-2012, 08:08 AM
Almost 6 weeks in tank. Before and after shot. ;)

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/6%20weeks%20later/6weeks.jpg

mlov1022
12-14-2012, 10:00 AM
Very nice Eddie.

DiscusLoverJeff
12-14-2012, 10:47 AM
Very nice shape and color pattern Eddie. Good luck with them.

TURQ64
12-14-2012, 10:59 AM
Looking good, Eddie....all of my Heckel X's have matured into very round fish,strongly influenced from the Heckel genetics.It also looks as tho' they throw the same in their fry..These of yours will obviously do the same...good luck with them..Gary

Eddie
12-14-2012, 11:31 AM
Thanks! Heres a quick video the breeder sent to me of Dad (Heckel) and Mom (Blue Turq).



http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/videos/th_VID-20121212-WA000.jpg (http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/videos/?action=view&current=VID-20121212-WA000.mp4)

Poco
12-14-2012, 12:23 PM
Very nice shape and pattern. Do you have any fav among them?

Eddie
12-14-2012, 12:42 PM
Very nice shape and pattern. Do you have any fav among them?

A few. LOL My absolute favorite is one that has a broken hard ray on its dorsal. Its not completely broken off, only bent to the side. I think it was damaged from transit. Its not a big deal as the fish will still grow nicely. I'll get a shot of it in the coming days. ;)

Eddie
07-22-2013, 07:43 PM
Here's a quick update on these. There is a high body fish in the group. Not my particular liking but he's tall. lol

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0343_zpsb7d9a912.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0338_zps45c6bcd1.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0334_zpse7957b05.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0333_zps369bad59.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0332_zps1efbce32.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0313_zps5043bf48.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0306_zpsbb1e41a3.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0296_zps4dd00ef0.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0284_zps88d705ef.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0278_zpsd4f8d582.jpghttp://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Heckel%20X%20Turq%202012/July%202014/DSC_0276_zps3fc3113f.jpg

William Palumbo
07-22-2013, 07:48 PM
Very nice Eddie!...I really like the shape. Just right height wise. Any higher and to ME, start to look funny. Great job...Bill

Eddie
07-22-2013, 07:53 PM
Thanks Bill. I appreciate it. Good to see you in the mix on here. ;)

William Palumbo
07-22-2013, 08:52 PM
Thanks Eddie...You know how it is...it gets in your blood!...Bill

Second Hand Pat
07-22-2013, 09:03 PM
These have a very unique look Eddie. I like it. They sure did grow out nice.

Eddie
07-22-2013, 09:39 PM
These have a very unique look Eddie. I like it. They sure did grow out nice.

Thanks Pat. None of them have heckel characteristics, maybe a little. Also, NONE of them are similar. lol The tiny runt of the group (literally 3 inches) carries the best traits. Go figure...smh

Second Hand Pat
07-22-2013, 09:42 PM
Eddie, you can see the heckel influence. Doesn't it always happen that way. It might still grow some.

Eddie
07-22-2013, 09:49 PM
Eddie, you can see the heckel influence. Doesn't it always happen that way. It might still grow some.

LOL, I highly doubt it but possible. Wilds have strange growth patterns.