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Second Hand Pat
12-23-2012, 05:48 PM
Lots of room for improvements on these pictures but some early promising looking results.

These are the F1 Tefes showing the developing spots...

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0813_zps05f3af90.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0812_zps1d65f136.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0810_zpsb8318e9d.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0809_zps22bf16db.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0808_zps9d51f9a9.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0807_zpsb004d69d.jpg

Second Hand Pat
12-23-2012, 05:55 PM
The pictures in the first post have a defuser on the speedlite. These pictures did not and are a bit harsh.

Adult Cuipuea

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0795_zps6c8c0e3e.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0793_zpsf9b77988.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0792_zps062273d1.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0791_zps5dd51e6a.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0790_zps073323bb.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0789_zpsc18e35c4.jpg

This picture shows the suspected male of the forming pair pushing the other suspected male. Note the darker tail.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0788_zps7bdd4eac.jpg

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0784_zps9cdbb850.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0783_zps3db87abd.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_0781_zps7f103083.jpg

Elliots
12-23-2012, 06:08 PM
I was told those red spots are normal on Tefes. That is why I bought Alequers ans Santarems from Hans, no Tefes.

Second Hand Pat
12-23-2012, 06:27 PM
Elliot, these are the juvies of wild green Tefe where spots are highly prized in the wild fish.

bonsai dave
12-23-2012, 06:47 PM
Wow Pat those Tefe's are going to be gorgeous . I can't wait to see them all grown up.. The Cuipuea's are looking great. The darker back ground really brings out the colour in them. Keep up the good work .

Second Hand Pat
12-23-2012, 06:54 PM
Dave, there are only two that are highly spotted but feel lucky to have the two. Only the mom had a couple of spots.

Discus-n00b
12-26-2012, 10:02 PM
I just saw this Pat. That last one would be killer with a diffuser on it. Lots of promise though like you said. Can you dial the speedlite back some? I usually have mine set to 1/2 or 1/4 power, depends on the tank or time of day I am shooting and what not.

Second Hand Pat
12-26-2012, 10:07 PM
Matt, so the Comp is the power applied to the flash. I should be able to dial it back. It is at +1.0 or full power I bet.

Second Hand Pat
01-22-2013, 10:14 PM
Too harsh. I forgot I can dial down the light intensity.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1471_zps09e0e847.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1451_zps7d630e6d.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1450_zps739ddf10.jpg

ZX10R
01-22-2013, 10:30 PM
Pat you sure are busy these days raising juvies, work, moderator here, new camera skills. I wish I had half your energy

DiscusLoverJeff
01-23-2013, 07:11 AM
Pat you sure are busy these days raising juvies, work, moderator here, new camera skills. I wish I had half your energy

Me too!

John_Nicholson
01-23-2013, 10:07 AM
Looking good.

-john

ockyra215
01-23-2013, 10:56 AM
Nice looking group Pat! I like the spots! Looking forward to seeing them as adults!

DiscusBR
01-23-2013, 11:51 AM
Great pics! I love how those gree F1s are coming out...

Second Hand Pat
01-24-2013, 02:38 PM
Pat you sure are busy these days raising juvies, work, moderator here, new camera skills. I wish I had half your energy


Me too!

Remember I am an empty nester these days. :)

Second Hand Pat
01-24-2013, 02:39 PM
Looking good.

-john

Thanks John


Nice looking group Pat! I like the spots! Looking forward to seeing them as adults!

Thanks Dave, me too but have another year until they are mature.

Second Hand Pat
01-24-2013, 02:40 PM
Great pics! I love how those gree F1s are coming out...

Me too Mauro.

Moon
01-24-2013, 05:02 PM
I like the pics without the diffuser. Pat, is the speedlight attached to the camera or remote?

Second Hand Pat
01-24-2013, 05:24 PM
Remote Joe, sitting on top of the tank pointing down.

Moon
01-24-2013, 05:39 PM
Thanks. That's what I thought.

Second Hand Pat
01-24-2013, 05:42 PM
Is that how it looks Joe?

horseplay
01-24-2013, 10:22 PM
Definitely a lot of potential. Suggest setting EV to around -0.5 or -1.0. Darker pictures look nicer IMO.

Moon
01-25-2013, 05:35 PM
Is that how it looks Joe?

It does. I got a speedlight for christmas and am playing with it.

Second Hand Pat
01-31-2013, 11:19 PM
Jaimie, this picture speedlite is in remote, on top of the tank pointed down. A little stark if you ask me.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1550_zpsd66525a0.jpg

Here the speedlite is point up with the top of a styro box lid on top of the speedlite. A softer effect.

A little too dark

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1551_zpsc9b47d69.jpg

A bit better

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1553_zpsbd5edec3.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1556_zpsd65bd6d8.jpg

Dogvet06
01-31-2013, 11:24 PM
Last one looks perfect. Now if only u could figure out what ur settings are lol


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Discus-n00b
01-31-2013, 11:43 PM
Getting there Pat, that last one the colors are excellent and no shadows on the body. I wish I had the setup to do a soft box or bounce box above the tank....a bit hard when the tank doesn't have a top though LOL. If the second picture were a bit lighter it would be great.

Second Hand Pat
01-31-2013, 11:45 PM
On that last picture

F-stop f/4.8
Exposure time 1/60 sec
ISO speed ISO-100
Focal length 62mm
Max aperture 4.5

anything else?

Second Hand Pat
01-31-2013, 11:49 PM
Getting there Pat, that last one the colors are excellent and no shadows on the body. I wish I had the setup to do a soft box or bounce box above the tank....a bit hard when the tank doesn't have a top though LOL. If the second picture were a bit lighter it would be great.

Thanks Matt, I also seem to take picture in the most difficult conditions. I never "set it up" but instead deal with the condition at hand.

Dogvet06
01-31-2013, 11:53 PM
Are ur settings consistent with the other shots? But I agree last is real good. Maybe bouncing is ur answer


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Second Hand Pat
02-01-2013, 12:05 AM
Jaimie, I really just need to sit down and play with the settings. I am allowing the camera to do the work. Bouncing definitely helps.

Dogvet06
02-01-2013, 08:28 AM
Oh I thought u were using manual settings


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Second Hand Pat
02-01-2013, 09:37 AM
Not yet :o

Dogvet06
02-01-2013, 10:01 AM
Well that explains everything hahha j/k. U will get there ;)


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Dogvet06
02-01-2013, 10:36 AM
Your camera is looking at the subject thinking it needs more light, so it's setting it up automatically as if there was no flash. That's why they are too bright. I will look at my camera tonight and tell u what mine is set on.


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Second Hand Pat
02-01-2013, 11:22 AM
Makes perfect sense Jaimie.

Dogvet06
02-02-2013, 12:55 PM
Try f stop at 5.6 exposure speed 1/50 and ISO 200 with these settings I just lower ISO if too dark and increase if too bright


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