Been a long time... Pics for Rick

[brewmaster15]

Hi all,
I haven't posted much lately here in my homestead, truth is I barely have time to breath some days... but got to talking with Rick Owen about a few things and I remembered some old pics I had taken...

These Pics were taken in Jan 2002... using a digital camera system hooked up to a stemi scope. I had used this system in the lab I worked in..They were digital images at a time when Digital images were new.:D

I had posted these pics as part of a time line of development on a group of fry from a wild Green Male X wild Snakeskin... the original posts were lost when we got hacked 7 or 8 years ago. I did raise the fry to adult hood... yet sadly lost them when a bad shipment of fish blew through my hatchery back then. They were gems...oh well...no sense crying over dead discus and all that work:(


anyhow Pics... one week old...
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-al

[brewmaster15]

Same spawn 2weeks...


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[brewmaster15]

Rick... on this I week image... The arrow indicates cement glands location...I think.:)

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[Poco]

Wow. Nice pics of fry Al. I wonder if we can do this without a scope only using a macro lens (may be not I think).

[Chicago Discus]

So I feed little aliens all day long LOL.....Josie

[nc0gnet0]

Very nice AL, where some of the other pictures you showed me from an electron microscope? The ones showing the cement glands?

Rick

[brewmaster15]

Lol.. yes, they don't look very good at a young age... I'm looking thru volumes of Cds for more pics as they grew up....the change is striking.


Wow. Nice pics of fry Al. I wonder if we can do this without a scope only using a macro lens (may be not I think). I think a good macro lens on todays digitals can do as good or better.. These were 2002... a decade in digital and optics technology is immense.

actually, you can take a pretty good macro by inverting an old lens using a reversing ring..turns it into a microscope..the lighting is tricky with that... and camera shack has to be zilch.

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[brewmaster15]

Rick, Those ones are from a book...I don't have the right to post them...which stinks. I'm going to try and contact the editor for that...we'll see..sometimes they can be real sticklers.

al

[nc0gnet0]

Rick, Those ones are from a book...I don't have the right to post them...which stinks. I'm going to try and contact the editor for that...we'll see..sometimes they can be real sticklers.


Yup, I am aware of that and understand completely. I hope you are succesful in gaining those rights as those pictures are fascinating (at least to me). What I was asking ( I highly doubt any of us can afford, let alone operate an electron microscope :) ) if the ones in the book were indeed taken using one IYO.

thanks again
Rick

[Second Hand Pat]

Cement gland is used to attaching to cone/wood as wigglers? Ugly little guys at such a tender age but pretty cool pictures.

[brewmaster15]

Yup, I am aware of that and understand completely. I hope you are succesful in gaining those rights as those pictures are fascinating (at least to me). What I was asking ( I highly doubt any of us can afford, let alone operate an electron microscope :) ) if the ones in the book were indeed taken using one IYO.

thanks again
Rick
Rick, yes, I do think they were taken as such. I've seen alot of Electron Micro scope pics and they have a certain look to them... and theres a level of detail, depth, and texture that you get. I wish I had access to one...I could have alot of fun.

and yes Pat...cement glands are what holds the fry to the cone before free swimming.
-al

[brewmaster15]

Okay... found some pics of these guys growing up... for this set I am switching cameras..so the images are pretty bad...I don't even recall what kind it was , but it was old..maybe an HP? still digital..

dad..wild green...common

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Mom... female 9 bar snake ...not a great specimen... but its not always what you see.

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about 2.5 months old by the photo dates

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[brewmaster15]

again... 2.5 months..

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[Second Hand Pat]

Al, that last picture is 14 bar yet mom was a nine bar snake :confused:...or does the snake imply 14 bar in the fry? For sure I am not up on my genetics.

[brewmaster15]

Okay... fast forward to about 8-9 months by image dates...

This is a few months before I lost the whole batch.:(

These images were made with a top of the line ...at the time NIKON Coolpix...maybe 4.5 megapixels. we had one at work and I was able to borrow it.




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and that is why I always have been a fan of crossing a wild to a domestic!! such variability means so much potential for new things.....and yes I was devastated to lose these...

okay... thats it for my walk down memory lane.. Just want to add one more as I came across this in my pic search. I lost a good friend this past New Years Eve ... My faithful cat Darwin passed away here at home after 16 years..
This one is from him back about a decade ago... looking over my little girl whose Not so little anymore.

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RIP old man.

[Cosgrovb]

Look at how awesome that snakeskin pattern is!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/28/4ygy4esa.jpg

[Second Hand Pat]

Ashame you lost the batch and Darwin, one special cat. The family guardian I bet.

[nc0gnet0]

What a shame to have lost them. I would have loved to see pictures of them at 14-16 months! I can't halp but notice the shape of the offspring is an improvement over both of the parents. It goes to show you that shape is more than just genetics, but rather a combiniation of genetics and environment.