Pat's Piece of the Amazon

[Second Hand Pat]

So I have a half cooked plan to setup an above ground pool this summer and place and growout some of the discus outside. In April people here move delicate fish outside for growout and move them back inside for the cooler months in October. My plan is to use an intex pool and will target a 33in x 12 foot circular pool which will hold 1700 gallons. I will cycle the pool with some pond pure (if practical) and place some experimental fish in the pool to ensure they can actually live. The pool will have a pump for areation and circulation, a partial sand bottom and driftwood to provide cover. I will also use netting used by greenhouses to cover the pool to protect from birds, coons etc.

I place credit for this idea fully on the head of Nandi as he is doing something similar in Hungry with the Xingu F1s.

[wdeleon01]

Oh wow Pat that sounds like an adventure. How much water changes will you be doing.

[Poco]

Good luck Pat! I am sure you won't be doing daily water changes on that baby :D

What do you have in mind for temp control?

[Second Hand Pat]

Oh wow Pat that sounds like an adventure. How much water changes will you be doing.

Walter, that is sort of TBD (to be determined) Most likely a couple of times a week, not sure of the percentage and this reminds me to check with Nandi to see what he plans on.

[Second Hand Pat]

Good luck Pat! I am sure you won't be doing daily water changes on that baby :D

What do you have in mind for temp control?

The sun Baber, the pool will be half in sun, half in shade. The volume of water helps to protect with large temperture changes over short time periods (or at least I hope so ;)) Summers are 90s in the day and 70s in the evenings. Days are longer.

[Chad Hughes]

Pat,

You've redefined MTS. I can't wait to see your setup and hear your reports on how it's working. :D

[Trier20]

I hope this works out for ya Pat! It will be neat to watch this unfold!

[Second Hand Pat]

Pat,

You've redefined MTS. I can't wait to see your setup and hear your reports on how it's working. :D

Thanks Chad...MTS? Mission and Training System??

[Second Hand Pat]

I hope this works out for ya Pat! It will be neat to watch this unfold!

Thanks Brandon, you are killing me in bejeweled :(

[nwehrman]

Multi Tank Syndrome ... Bigger and better ... Not sure how to compete with a pool though...

Looking forward to pictures Pat! I think it will work, especially where you live!

[Chad Hughes]

^^^

:D

[Second Hand Pat]

Multi Tank Syndrome ...

Guilty of this for sure.

Thanks Nicole, should be fun and hopefully not just a mower obstacle.

[Second Hand Pat]

^^^

:D

Yea I got it...:mad:

[Jeff O]

Cant wait to see this project come to life!

[Chad Hughes]

Yea I got it...:mad:

LOL!

I did like your translation though "Mission and Training System". Made me laugh. :D

[Second Hand Pat]

Cant wait to see this project come to life!

Me too Jeff, should be fun.

[Second Hand Pat]

LOL!

I did like your translation though "Mission and Training System". Made me laugh. :D

Chad, given our professions I figured you get get a hoot from my translation :D

[Trier20]

Thanks Brandon, you are killing me in bejeweled :(

It's two thousand points that's nothing. I am in the lead though :) Lol I did do a little woot when I saw my score was above yours :D

[Second Hand Pat]

It's two thousand points that's nothing. I am in the lead though :) Lol I did do a little woot when I saw my score was above yours :D

boo ;)

[SMB2]

And if they spawn????

[dadecountyalan]

definitely subscribing to this thread. cant wait to see how it turns out.

[dadecountyalan]

And if they spawn????

even more interesting!!!

[chaoslite]

Ok now this sounds like fun!!

Mishka

[Chad Hughes]

Yes Mam! ;)


Chad, given our professions I figured you get get a hoot from my translation :D

Clearly ya'll have way too much time on your hands. LOL!


It's two thousand points that's nothing. I am in the lead though :) Lol I did do a little woot when I saw my score was above yours :D


boo ;)

[kaceyo]

This is something I've always wanted to see done. Living in Seattle in a condo doesn't lend itself to this kind of experimenting but I'll follow your progress with great interest.

Kacey

[discus6628]

interesting experience.. can't wait to see the progress.

[DiscusBR]

What an exciting project! I will follow it with great interest.

Questions: you will be able to see the discus only from above, right? Is it possible to add a transparent window in the pool so that you can see the discus? Just wondering...

[fredyx]

This is an outdoor discus farm in Vietnam:):
http://img86.xooimage.com/files/2/6/8/2012-11-12-14.58.59-3988103.jpg
http://img89.xooimage.com/files/9/a/4/2012-11-12-14.58.08-3988146.jpg
http://img89.xooimage.com/files/8/3/5/2012-11-12-14.56.03-39881bf.jpg

Do you want to setup something like this?

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Look at the shape of those discus. WOW.

There you go Pat, discus farm in your own backyard. Keith, Bill, Brandon and myself will come down and help you scoop them out like in the picture.

[Trier20]

Look at the shape of those discus. WOW.

There you go Pat, discus farm in your own backyard. Keith, Bill, Brandon and myself will come down and help you scoop them out like in the picture.

I I bet if we get Bill a backhoe the rest of us could watch him dig and drink beer. :D

[Discus-n00b]

Yeah pat, go ahead and get a few concrete vats sunk into the ground....go big or go home! LOL

Sounds awesome as is, looking forward to keeping up with this.

[Second Hand Pat]

And if they spawn????

Even better but most of the fish will be F1 juvies or wild sub-adults.


definitely subscribing to this thread. cant wait to see how it turns out.

Me too Alan.

[Second Hand Pat]

And if they spawn????

Even better :D


Ok now this sounds like fun!!

Mishka

Agree Mishka and good way to clean some tank with a little relief on the power bill.


This is something I've always wanted to see done. Living in Seattle in a condo doesn't lend itself to this kind of experimenting but I'll follow your progress with great interest.

Kacey

Thanks Kacey.


interesting experience.. can't wait to see the progress.

:o

[Second Hand Pat]

What an exciting project! I will follow it with great interest.

Questions: you will be able to see the discus only from above, right? Is it possible to add a transparent window in the pool so that you can see the discus? Just wondering...

Thanks Mauro and you are correct. Will only be able to see from above. I would love a window but could add serious cost to the price of the pool.

[Second Hand Pat]

This is an outdoor discus farm in Vietnam:):
http://img86.xooimage.com/files/2/6/8/2012-11-12-14.58.59-3988103.jpg
http://img89.xooimage.com/files/9/a/4/2012-11-12-14.58.08-3988146.jpg
http://img89.xooimage.com/files/8/3/5/2012-11-12-14.56.03-39881bf.jpg

Do you want to setup something like this?

Certainly not at first and would have to heat the pools in the winter. Could be one way to make discus profitable in the US. ;)

[Second Hand Pat]

Look at the shape of those discus. WOW.

There you go Pat, discus farm in your own backyard. Keith, Bill, Brandon and myself will come down and help you scoop them out like in the picture.

Sounds like fun Jeff, Pat the fish farmer. :)


I I bet if we get Bill a backhoe the rest of us could watch him dig and drink beer. :D

I like running my own equipment. Beside this would be all above ground.

[Second Hand Pat]

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Yeah pat, go ahead and get a few concrete vats sunk into the ground....go big or go home! LOL

Sounds awesome as is, looking forward to keeping up with this.

One pool for the summer Matt, proof of concept first :)

[Trier20]

Beside this would be all above ground.

Ok, above ground the first year. If it's a success, we dig a hole!

[Second Hand Pat]

Ok, above ground the first year. If it's a success, we dig a hole!

Deal, good thing I have 5 acres.

[Kevin C]

Thanks for sharing the pics of the farm in Vietnam.

[plecocicho]

Great and interesting project, i will folow it with glee. Jus watch that Florida doesnt get another fish plague ;)

[Sandz]

If you need another hole digger next year count me in! Im excited to see how this all comes about.

[Second Hand Pat]

OK guys, this is in the works for this summer. We are talking a 12 foot round above ground pool with 33 inch sides...about 1700 gallons. I need to design a filter for this. Nandi and I were talking about a brute can with some sort of media (like rocks) where the water is pulled into holes punched along the bottom of the brute can with a pond pump inside the can pushing water out of the top of the can into the pool. I have never had a pond before so open to comments/suggestions on a filter/flow for this thing.

[dirtyplants]

Might what to check out something called hydro corn, not sure about the name, they use in hydroponics, baked clay balls, cheap comes in fifty pound bags. Very porous. Not sure about the name though.

[evabug1]

I'd look into the different types of things people use for koi pond filtration. Once upon a time I had a 55 gallon drum with settlement chamber at bottom up through several layers of matala and bio on top. I really like the K1 moving beds too that I've seen people build.

[musicmarn1]

Might what to check out something called hydro corn, not sure about the name, they use in hydroponics, baked clay balls, cheap comes in fifty pound bags. Very porous. Not sure about the name though.

I use those hydroballs for hydroponics, they are good, light, also there are smaller white ones that float though its a pain lol they spill and get in my koi pond I hate those ones now. I have a 15 ft by 20ft dog pool with a Beast of a sand filter, would make the best fish filter its awesome, but alas its too cold here to do something like yhis or I would.

So cant wait to see this project unfold should be great ! Just keep those herons out lol

[dirtyplants]

I really like my sand filters also never needed to be changed. Only back flushed once in a while after a very long period of time, I mean, long like years. Eventually the sand breaks down and needs to be replaced.

[dadecountyalan]

Any update on this pat. Curiosity is killing me


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[Second Hand Pat]

Alan, currently in Maryland helping my daughter move into her new place. Will be setting this up at the end of April. It is still a bit cool.
Pat

[treemanone2003]

Maryland isn't too big. Does this mean you're gonna stop and see Hans ???


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[Second Hand Pat]

Not this time. Kid is keeping us way too busy.