Cuipeua "Cousins" or Pacovals

[Second Hand Pat]

Here are the Cuipeua "cousins" from Mark (Discus Origins). There guys are actually called Pacovals. A lot of potential in these two and hoping they will be royal (or near royal) and male. I am pretty sure that the current Cuipeua crew only has two males (based on size, straitions and behaviour)

Same fish
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1803_zpsf8c53744.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1798_zpseaae7f15.jpg

and the second. My favorite of the two.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1800_zps482aad79.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1799_zps094ef7d3.jpg

[DiscusBR]

Gorgeus discus, Pat! Your stock keeps getting bigger and better.

I have never heard of Pacovals. But what do I know? They look amazing, though.

[Second Hand Pat]

Mauro, if I recall what Mark said the Pacoval collection point is very close to where the Cuipeua's are collected from but they do not actually mix in the wild.

Yes, I am trying to improve my stock as I go.

[Second Hand Pat]

These two are coloring up nice especially for young sub-adults.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1928_zpsc6ec534d.jpg

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1927_zpsdf5f1dc0.jpg
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_1923_zps714755ae.jpg

[dagray]

Pat,
What is the difference between a regular Pacoval and a Royal Pacoval? And yes you have some gorgeous fish.

Dave

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi Dave, the amount of striations govern whether the fish is called a regular, semi-royal or royal. A royal will be almost fully striations across the body and a semi-royal will be partly striated. I believe there are percentages which roughly describe both.
Pat

[Pardal]

Pat , your stock is getting better and better, nice coloration can't wait to see them fully grown.

Julian.

[joanstone]

You sure have a stunning collection of discus. My favorite actually. I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to do wilds, but your success is something to aspire to.

[Second Hand Pat]

Pat , your stock is getting better and better, nice coloration can't wait to see them fully grown.

Julian.

Thanks Julian, I believe these guys are going to be very nice.

[Second Hand Pat]

You sure have a stunning collection of discus. My favorite actually. I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to do wilds, but your success is something to aspire to.

Thanks Joan, I really appreciate that. ;) If you ever decide to cross that bridge will be happy to help.

[joanstone]

Thanks, it's something I keep in the back of my mind if I end up moving back to Maine. My water source there would be much more conducive to wilds than my current water here in VT.

[Second Hand Pat]

This fish is showing so much potential. It has grown a good inch plus so a bit over five inches, still a sub-adult.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_2852_zps96e23cbc.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_2852_zps96e23cbc.jpg.html)

[dagray]

Very pretty fish, and great photography.

Dave

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Dave :)

[blueluv]

This fish is showing so much potential. It has grown a good inch plus so a bit over five inches, still a sub-adult.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_2852_zps96e23cbc.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_2852_zps96e23cbc.jpg.html)

Wow beautiful! You're really good with wilds. I'm going to have to call you the WD Whisperer ;)

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Chris but definitely a work in progress. :)

[chaoslite]

This fish is showing so much potential. It has grown a good inch plus so a bit over five inches, still a sub-adult.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_2852_zps96e23cbc.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_2852_zps96e23cbc.jpg.html)

Now this one I really like. It's beautiful Pat.

Mishka

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Mishka, I like this one a lot too. Should be an awesome adult.

[chaoslite]

I love the red between the striations.

Mishka

[Second Hand Pat]

That should get stronger as the fish matures.

[Pardal]

Hi Pat,
Is being a while, just got a break and came to check, how simply is doing, love thoses Pacovals nice natural red.

Julian.

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Julian, I was thinking of you this weekend. Hope all is well.
Pat

[Pardal]

Doing OK, ready to go home for this short deployment and returning back next year for a full year.
I sending you a PM.
Julian.

[Second Hand Pat]

Ok Julian :)

[timmy82]

Very nice as always! Looks like you might be on a winner with a full royal looks like it will work out in a few more months of development.

[Second Hand Pat]

Hope so Timmy :)

[Second Hand Pat]

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_3417_zpse99046be.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_3417_zpse99046be.jpg.html)

[Tony C]

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_3417_zpse99046be.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_3417_zpse99046be.jpg.html)

With all the wilds you keep posting I'm going to need more tanks...

[blueluv]

Beautiful indeed:D

[Second Hand Pat]

With all the wilds you keep posting I'm going to need more tanks...

Tony, you should see them in person. :)

[Second Hand Pat]

Beautiful indeed:D

Thanks Chris :)

[Tony C]

Tony, you should see them in person. :)

I have family in Tallahassee, may have to see if you're up for a visit the next time I head down there. I have a 55 cycling, two more waiting to be set up and I'm already wanting more because there are so many nice localities. I'll either end up with a fishroom or my girlfriend will kill me in my sleep... :grin:

[Second Hand Pat]

Next time you come down Tony holler at me.

[Tony C]

Next time you come down Tony holler at me.

Will do.

[musicmarn1]

ok love love love these…..can you post more pictures im in rapture :) hehe so Pat i really want to see a video of your lay out , i.e. how many tanks total how many wilds total do you have can you get pictures or video of your whole set up? sheesh always wanting more !! i hope i can get some of these Pacovals as i adore Cuipeua and these look pretty darn close

[Second Hand Pat]

Marnie, go to my homesteader and look through the threads....lots of pictures in almost every thread.

[musicmarn1]

ah ok ! *doh* :D