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SnapshotAquarist
12-03-2013, 05:59 PM
Hello,

I have a 75 gallon setup running a 23 gallon sump that contains about 15 gallons of water.

So lets say its a 90 gallon system.
I'm running 200 milliliters of Purigen,
4 liters of matrix, and also have a bunch of pothos.

The pothos are beyond effective with nitrate removal. Brought nitrates in my 75 gallon angel tank with 6 adults from 40 to zero and kept them there with no water changes and regular feeding.
I'm planning on daily water changes anyway with the discus, so would it be safe for me to have 9 discus in this tank for life?
Or should I have more like 7 in a 75?


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OC Discus
12-03-2013, 06:02 PM
Depending on if you have other fish in there. Most would say 8 is a good target. With your setup, nine is probably not a stretch.


Hello,

I have a 75 gallon setup running a 23 gallon sump that contains about 15 gallons of water.

So lets say its a 90 gallon system.
I'm running 200 milliliters of Purigen,
4 liters of matrix, and also have a bunch of pothos.

The pothos are beyond effective with nitrate removal. Brought nitrates in my 75 gallon angel tank with 6 adults from 40 to zero and kept them there with no water changes and regular feeding.
I'm planning on daily water changes anyway with the discus, so would it be safe for me to have 9 discus in this tank for life?
Or should I have more like 7 in a 75?


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SnapshotAquarist
12-03-2013, 06:08 PM
Depending on if you have other fish in there. Most would say 8 is a good target. With your setup, nine is probably not a stretch.

It will be no other fish.
I'm planning to purchase 2 discus locally to make sure the tank is going to support them
(I'm not going to do an expensive order if I'm not absolutely sure the tank is squared away)
I'm just trying to have enough fish in my online order to offset the shipping cost a little more. Always trying to get more bang for my buck!



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OC Discus
12-03-2013, 06:18 PM
Most of the experts on sd would offer some advice:

1) Read everything in the threads for beginners
2) Have the tank ready before ordering the fish
3) Get all your fish from the same source
4) Quarantine new fish up to six weeks before adding to your main tank
5) If it is a new tank, it would be wise to find a supplier, like Kenny, who can provide all nine of the fish you want at one time. This will reduce the likelihood of catching diseases from other strains and water sources.
6) Grow them out in a bare bottom tank with no decorations.
7) Experts will have different opinions on the chemicals. Many will say when growing young ones don't depend on chemicals, but do frequent water changes. Fresh water adds minerals that they absorb quickly and deplete from the water.

Good luck. Post pictures of your new fish.


It will be no other fish.
I'm planning to purchase 2 discus locally to make sure the tank is going to support them
(I'm not going to do an expensive order if I'm not absolutely sure the tank is squared away)
I'm just trying to have enough fish in my online order to offset the shipping cost a little more. Always trying to get more bang for my buck!



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Disgirl
12-03-2013, 09:27 PM
Would you believe when I read this thread title I first thought you had a Christmas stocking with a discus on it? Yep, I did.
Barb=)

Nick Klimkowski
12-03-2013, 09:33 PM
Hello,

I have a 75 gallon setup running a 23 gallon sump that contains about 15 gallons of water.

So lets say its a 90 gallon system.
I'm running 200 milliliters of Purigen,
4 liters of matrix, and also have a bunch of pothos.

The pothos are beyond effective with nitrate removal. Brought nitrates in my 75 gallon angel tank with 6 adults from 40 to zero and kept them there with no water changes and regular feeding.
I'm planning on daily water changes anyway with the discus, so would it be safe for me to have 9 discus in this tank for life?
Or should I have more like 7 in a 75?


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You can house 7-8 discus in a 75 gallon no problem just make sure to keep up on your daily water changes.

-Nick

sdrexler078
12-03-2013, 09:34 PM
Would you believe when I read this thread title I first thought you had a Christmas stocking with a discus on it? Yep, I did.
Barb=)

Lol

SnapshotAquarist
12-03-2013, 10:09 PM
Most of the experts on sd would offer some advice:

1) Read everything in the threads for beginners
2) Have the tank ready before ordering the fish
3) Get all your fish from the same source
4) Quarantine new fish up to six weeks before adding to your main tank
5) If it is a new tank, it would be wise to find a supplier, like Kenny, who can provide all nine of the fish you want at one time. This will reduce the likelihood of catching diseases from other strains and water sources.
6) Grow them out in a bare bottom tank with no decorations.
7) Experts will have different opinions on the chemicals. Many will say when growing young ones don't depend on chemicals, but do frequent water changes. Fresh water adds minerals that they absorb quickly and deplete from the water.

Good luck. Post pictures of your new fish.

Ok, I don't have a problem getting all nine at once, and I was planning to order from Kenny already.
But how can I be absolutely positive that the tank will be ready for them?

I've had the tank running a sponge filter for a month, and the sump with matrix purigen and pothos has been running a week, but I've been slacking on adding an ammonia source.

Even without me using an ammonia source, do you think this tank will be ready for fish in time for Kenny's December shipment?


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Mgardner
12-03-2013, 10:33 PM
You can get seeded sponges from Kenny, just monitor your levels and do the water changes. You'll be fine.

SnapshotAquarist
12-03-2013, 11:13 PM
You can get seeded sponges from Kenny, just monitor your levels and do the water changes. You'll be fine.

Ok, that sounds good. Still though, would it be safe to add 10 or so neons before my order, just to be sure?

300-400 dollars is a lot to spend without me being absolutely sure of myself.


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sdrexler078
12-03-2013, 11:50 PM
You might have an ammonia spike but if you do just keep up your big water changes and keep it down. Just remember to check it everyday for awhile to make sure you haven't had a spike

OC Discus
12-04-2013, 12:09 AM
Being a new setup, you could add all your discus at once. If you add neons first, you will need to have another tank to quarantine before mixing them together. If Kenny sold Neons, you could add them all at the same time to your main tank. If you don't have another tank to quarantine, just stick with the discus and let them get established before adding anything else.


Ok, that sounds good. Still though, would it be safe to add 10 or so neons before my order, just to be sure?

300-400 dollars is a lot to spend without me being absolutely sure of myself.


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dirtyplants
12-04-2013, 02:43 AM
Tetras are big fluke carriers I would QT separately for a good amount of time.

vikki
12-05-2013, 08:13 AM
How do you know if your tetras have fluke?

dirtyplants
12-05-2013, 05:10 PM
It is well documented that tetras, carry flukes, cardinals are usually wild - I don't know of anyone that has been able to breed them here - any wild must be QT and then cleared of parasites. If you check out gill flukes you will find the research that tells you which fish are carries.

Discusdude7
12-05-2013, 10:48 PM
Ok, that sounds good. Still though, would it be safe to add 10 or so neons before my order, just to be sure?

300-400 dollars is a lot to spend without me being absolutely sure of myself.


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Nope just keep up with large daily WCs and you will be fine. Use prime or safe as a dechlor as well..it will neutralize the ammonia for 24-48 hrs.

SnapshotAquarist
12-05-2013, 11:28 PM
I already use prime in all my tanks.

Thanks everyone!


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mnorberry
12-07-2013, 03:58 PM
Who is Kenny?

Tazalanche
12-07-2013, 04:10 PM
Who is Kenny?A sponsor here: Kenny's Discus (Kenny Cheung) - Daly City, California (http://forum.simplydiscus.com/forumdisplay.php?119-Kenny-s-Discus-(Kenny-Cheung)-Daly-City-California)

dirtyplants
12-07-2013, 04:17 PM
Who is Kenny? LOL Kenny is one of the top Discus people importing top quality discus. His customer service is the best I have ever run into. Well cared for discus from Forest and Kenny aways are in demand. I beleive Hans and Kenny to be the top rated importers of discus and only ship top quality healthy fish. I can only say Kenny has done only good for me and his customer service is beyond any person I have ever dealt with. You just never need to worry with his fish.