Heckels With Halos

[Second Hand Pat]

Since my heckels are in with the pair which has formed between the Trombeta and one of the Cuipeua females the heckels have developed darker tails and fins. It seems like the sexually active fish have juiced up the heckels. I have seem two occurances of a heckel bowing to the Trombeta and heckels staring at wood. I am not sure if all this means anything but interesting...

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_4349_zps6be46ec1.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_4349_zps6be46ec1.jpg.html)

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_4345_zps2512b320.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_4345_zps2512b320.jpg.html)

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_4344_zpsa29badec.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_4344_zpsa29badec.jpg.html)

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_4338_zps9a5f6594.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_4338_zps9a5f6594.jpg.html)

While this picture is a bit out of focus the heckel on the left was wood staring.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/DSC_4337_zps435cfc0c.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/DSC_4337_zps435cfc0c.jpg.html)

[dirtyplants]

What an interesting cross this would be!

[Nick Klimkowski]

Very nice pics Pat.

[Second Hand Pat]

What an interesting cross this would be!

Coree, a heckel to heckel pairing is the holy grail to a wilds keeper. It is the very hardest pairing to achieve.

[Second Hand Pat]

Very nice pics Pat.

Thanks Nick :D

[dirtyplants]

I will remember that when my heckels breed and have wigglers. :) Just kidding!

[Second Hand Pat]

That would be awesome Coree. :)

[sdrexler078]

Coree, a heckel to heckel pairing is the holy grail to a wilds keeper. It is the very hardest pairing to achieve.

Why is it so hard compared to others? Are heckels not attracted to the heckel bar. Lol

[rdiscus]

heckel to heckel ... Yes anything can happen at Pat's place :)

[Second Hand Pat]

If people knew why it was so hard then people would understand how to entice the heckel female to spawn. The impression I have is people think they need a soft, very acidic water to maintain and breed heckels. I suspect the heckel live in this type of water during the dry season. I want to know how the fish live in the wet season. I suspect as you enter the wet season the water cools, the ph raises and the food supply increases. Finding the trigger is the secret I think.

[Second Hand Pat]

heckel to heckel ... Yes anything can happen at Pat's place :)

We shall see Ryan. This thread goes me hope and it happened in Florida...http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?43094-Heckel-Spawn!!

[YSS]

We are not worthy! Hail to the queen of wild discus. I mean it. :)

[Second Hand Pat]

Only if it really happens Yun ;)

[dirtyplants]

So Pat have you tried lowing the water and pH and then through a trickle system raise the water, and the pH, and cool the temps???

[Second Hand Pat]

I have not Coree as the heckels are not mature enough.

[Carolina discus]

I have faith in you...if anyone is going to spawn heckels my money is on you...patience, patience, and more patience :)
keep us posted

[Second Hand Pat]

Thank Eric, we shall give it the good, old college try. :)

[dirtyplants]

Pat you will get right, and it will happen. You won't give up on this, if anyone can pull this together it would be you.

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Coree :)

[Discus-n00b]

Agreed with the others! Pat the wild whisperer. No pressure at all Pat ;)

[Second Hand Pat]

None at all Matt :D