220 Wild

[Larry Bugg]

Look what I found in the back of my truck. Oh, that is a 6" bed.



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[Bill63SG]

Nice!Nothing like an empty tank and endless possibility's.

[Keith Perkins]

You got yourself a new Christmas tree? :D

[Second Hand Pat]

That looks like a 180. My favorite size. I am sure the new Christmas tree is nice too.

[Larry Bugg]

Nice!Nothing like an empty tank and endless possibility's.

Yup, but the plan for this tank was already in place when I started looking for it.


You got yourself a new Christmas tree? :D

LOL, that is actually about 150 lbs of base rock that I will advertise through the local reef club forum here to off set the cost of the tank.


That looks like a 180. My favorite size. I am sure the new Christmas tree is nice too.

Dang Pat. I really thought you would be the first to come up with the correct tank size, after all you were part of the inspiration of this tank. Guess again. You really should know.

[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, I was so busy looking at the width I missed the height. You will love it. Are you doing wilds in it? If so this might be just the ticket for a little wilds. :D I have a pair in the 230 who are in a spawning mode and I swear the whole tank is juiced up.

[Larry Bugg]

Yes, it's a 220. Now what I want to know is.............you are not a very tall woman. How the heck do you clean the bottom of the tank. I'm a little worried about it.

[Larry Bugg]

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[Skip]

Christmas tree?

[Second Hand Pat]

Tools with long handles Larry and a tall step stool. :D

[Second Hand Pat]

Christmas tree?

Skip, check out the box in the truck bed.

[Larry Bugg]

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[Second Hand Pat]

It is going to look fantastic. Larry, where are you finding the taller backgrounds?

[Larry Bugg]

Same place you got yours. Designs by Nature. I searched through all Matt has and came across this one. http://www.designsbynature.net/products-page/deluxe-3d-bgs/rocky-sheet/

[Larry Bugg]

I've sold a LOT of fry and one proven pair to finance this. It has been a lot of fun so far. Can't wait to see some discus in it.

[Second Hand Pat]

You got it in one piece? It looks great.

[Larry Bugg]

You got it in one piece? It looks great.

Yes, it is thin enough that he actually rolls it up to ship and you can put it in the tank without cutting it. He sends some clips with it to attach it to the tank but I chose to silicone it to the back.

[Second Hand Pat]

Siliconing it is a smart idea. I removed mine for now as one panel will not stay flush with the back. I will tell you that the fish feel more secure with the background then without.

[Discus-n00b]

Awesome! Can't wait to see this evolve!

[musicmarn1]

Siliconing it is a smart idea. I removed mine for now as one panel will not stay flush with the back. I will tell you that the fish feel more secure with the background then without.


that is pricesless information THANKS Pat, was going back on forth on using the room , and Larry said this was thin so thats where im heading to order mine :) tank looks great Larry !! what you doing for filtration? can you tell us what discus are going in there? is it wilds? which ones, SO excited about my wilds coming next week i am dancing around and reading posts like crazy !

[Larry Bugg]

that is pricesless information THANKS Pat, was going back on forth on using the room , and Larry said this was thin so thats where im heading to order mine :) tank looks great Larry !! what you doing for filtration? can you tell us what discus are going in there? is it wilds? which ones, SO excited about my wilds coming next week i am dancing around and reading posts like crazy !

I don't really like sumps but with a tank this size I think it is the way to go. Since I am a proponent of big water changes I really don't need anything too elaborate. I'm using a 20 gallon with some poret and bio balls. Pat knows there is only one thing I would put in a tank this size. Yes it is Wilds. I've struggled and failed miserably to get wilds to breed but here I go again. I have 7 in QT being treated right now. I actually bought them before I found the tank. They came from John (Snookn21). 5 Cuipeua super red and 2 Alenquer red. I saw on John's website that he had these coming in before he posted them here. Originally he had them as large. When they arrived at his place he changed them to XLarge. These guys are huge. The largest 2 are over 7" (Yes measured with a tape). They are doing great but have a couple more rounds of meds and qt before they go in the new tank. The first to go in the tank will arrive Wednesday. I was lucky enough to see Mark's (Discus Origins) sale post right when he posted and jumped on the 4 Trombeta red he had left. Since these have been in Mark's tanks for some time I won't be treating them and they will go straight in the big tank. They will get the big tank all to themselves until the others come out of qt.

Who did you order from and what are you getting? I've read some of your other post and knew you were wanting wilds. Keep talking with Pat. She will help you get settled with them I'm sure.

[Bill63SG]

You got it in one piece? It looks great.

Man,if they only would have had this before we messed around with ours.

[Second Hand Pat]

Yea I know Bill, love the non repeating pattern on Larry's background.

[Larry Bugg]

Cuipeua and Alenquer from John.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpoZKiQlflg&feature=youtu.be

[plecocicho]

Those are some darn nice wilds. Wait when they will be in the proper eniviroment.

[Second Hand Pat]

Nice Larry



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpoZKiQlflg&feature=youtu.be

[dirtyplants]

Larry, did you mention where you got your backing from?

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, did you mention where you got your backing from?

Post 14 has the link.

[joanstone]

This is looking great.

[Tictok]

That tank is going to be amazing!! The background is so realistic... I am in awe! I wish I could find some driftwood like that...

[Larry Bugg]

That tank is going to be amazing!! The background is so realistic... I am in awe! I wish I could find some driftwood like that...

You can

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/forumdisplay.php?209-Manzman-(Rafael-Mendoza)-Beaumont-California

[Len]

Larry, not to discourage you, because the manzanita does look good, but it's a bugger t keep clean. It grows that white fluffy stuff that you have to constantly clean. I go through stages with mine where I get so frustrated and sick of cleaning it off that I take it out. Then after a few months I miss it and put it back only to repeat the cycle.

[Discus-n00b]

Larry, not to discourage you, because the manzanita does look good, but it's a bugger t keep clean. It grows that white fluffy stuff that you have to constantly clean. I go through stages with mine where I get so frustrated and sick of cleaning it off that I take it out. Then after a few months I miss it and put it back only to repeat the cycle.

I was the exact same with mine Len.

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, not to discourage you, because the manzanita does look good, but it's a bugger t keep clean. It grows that white fluffy stuff that you have to constantly clean. I go through stages with mine where I get so frustrated and sick of cleaning it off that I take it out. Then after a few months I miss it and put it back only to repeat the cycle.

I completely understand and agree. This wood is not new. It has been in all my wild tanks in the past. I still have manzanita in both my 125's but they are discus free. It does get to be a pain dragging it out and pressure washing it on a regular basis but it also looks so really good and gives the wilds some structure I think they need.

[Keith Perkins]

Just curious, have you ever tried cleaning the manzanita with PP?

[Larry Bugg]

No I haven't. Do you think that helps it stay cleaner longer?

[dirtyplants]

Maybe you might want to experiment with it in another tank, I think the fungus is a natural part of the bacteria process when in water. Might just try waiting it out in another tank. ??

[Len]

Just curious, have you ever tried cleaning the manzanita with PP?

I have Keith but didn't help. I even soaked it in really strong bleach. I love the look when it's clean, but it is a lot of work :)

[Len]

so Larry it's been a whole day and no more pics? You can't get us hooked and then leave us hanging like that. Get to work :)

[Larry Bugg]

LOL, filled the tank last night to check my sump plumbing but that is the only change until I receive the 4 from Mark on Wed to go in the tank. The remainder won't be out of qt for a couple more weeks.

[Discus-n00b]

Larry, is that rocky sheet background flat on the back or is it contoured with the pattern?

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, is that rocky sheet background flat on the back or is it contoured with the pattern?

It is not entirely flat. Seemed to be contoured with the front but didn't seem as much. Seems like I remember that they use some kind of rock in the paint which might make the front a little more. It was flat enough that I had no problem with the silicone adhering. Keep in mind that this background is not very thick to begin with.

[Discus-n00b]

I'm just looking at options for magnets. Easy removal, easy install. Trying to avoid silicone my nice rimless low iron glass tank lol. So flat back is good.

[Keith Perkins]

No I haven't. Do you think that helps it stay cleaner longer?

It's been so long since I did it on driftwood I don't remember. I do recall it cleaned up the wood really well.


I have Keith but didn't help. I even soaked it in really strong bleach. I love the look when it's clean, but it is a lot of work :)

That's why I tried the PP Len. I have to admit though I didn't use any fish treatment level of PP. I stuck the piece of driftwood in an empty tank and poured PP crystals into the tank as it was filling. No idea what the concentration was, but if I remember right I could hardly see the wood if I could see it at all. I figured I had to do something with all the extra PP crystal I bought. The only way I could find PP was in a jug about that was about gallon size.

[Len]

That's pretty much what I did too Keith, except I used the bathtub overnight. Bad idea btw, it makes a mess of the tub.

[Keith Perkins]

That's interesting Len, I wonder if that means whatever is growing on the manzanita is originating in the water and not the wood.

You put PP in your bathtub? Are you single or just looking to be?

[Len]

It wasn't one of my brighter ideas Keith lol

[Larry Bugg]

I made the decision to get back into wilds back in December. John (Snookn21) had what appeared to be some very nice Manacapuru Blue XL for $65 each so I ordered 4 of them along with a couple of Medium Royal Blues. While they were being treated in QT, I found out John was getting the Cuipeua Super Reds. I went ahead and ordered the Reds with the intent of selling the Blues. I actually have a potential buyer lined up for the Blues but they are now looking amazing. The Reds were treated in QT for 4 weeks and I decided to go ahead and put both the Blues and the Reds in the 220. I ordered some bigger pieces of manzanita from PC1 which should arrive in the next week or so. The new pieces are tall enough to go from the top of the tank to the bottom. The sump is now set except for some K1 coming from Josie and some 200 Micron socks that should be here on Friday. So here are the Blues and Reds from John in the 220.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xJimcc3J8

[nwehrman]

Looks great Larry


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[Wes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xJimcc3J8&feature=player_detailpage

Looks great Larry.

[Second Hand Pat]

Nice looking group Larry, can you tell the blues from the reds?

[Keith Perkins]

A beautiful sight Larry.

[Larry Bugg]

Nice looking group Larry, can you tell the blues from the reds?

LOL, only because I saw them come out of the labeled bag. Look at the video at 3:02, the two on the left are Reds and the one on the right is a Blue.

[Second Hand Pat]

LOL, only because I saw them come out of the labeled bag. Look at the video at 3:02, the two on the left are Reds and the one on the right is a Blue.

I will take your word for it lol.

[musicmarn1]

Stunning! How much water you changing daily on that set up? Looks wicked, can't wait for mine sigh

[DiscusBR]

Beautiful wilds in a beautiful setup. What a nice sight. Congrats!

[Trac]

Larry, what are your water parameters? Are you using 30/70?

[blueluv]

Beautiful wilds and set up. :)


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[israelillo81]

Larry, not to discourage you, because the manzanita does look good, but it's a bugger t keep clean. It grows that white fluffy stuff that you have to constantly clean. I go through stages with mine where I get so frustrated and sick of cleaning it off that I take it out. Then after a few months I miss it and put it back only to repeat the cycle.

Amano shrimp are excellent for eating that white stuff


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[DiscusLoverJeff]

A beautiful setup Larry. You did a great job selecting those wilds. They blend in well.

What lighting are you using?

[Larry Bugg]

Stunning! How much water you changing daily on that set up? Looks wicked, can't wait for mine sigh

I won't do a daily change on this tank. No need for it since they are full grown and my bio load is about 1 per 20 gallons. I will do 50% change every 3 to 5 days.


Beautiful wilds in a beautiful setup. What a nice sight. Congrats!

Thanks Mauro


Larry, what are your water parameters? Are you using 30/70?

My Ph comes out of the tap around 7 and it doesn't change that much after aging. My TDS is about 40. I don't use RO. My water is great for Wilds just as it is.


Beautiful wilds and set up. :)

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Thanks, appreciate the compliment


A beautiful setup Larry. You did a great job selecting those wilds. They blend in well.

What lighting are you using?

I had a 6' Coralife Comp Flour sitting around so I'm using it. Not using all 4 bulbs though, just two of them. May change it out at some point, will see.

[Disgirl]

Just seeing this thread for the first time Larry, been a bit preoccupied lately. Your new tank is fabulous! I wish you much luck with it, will keep checking on progress here from now on.
Barb

[Larry Bugg]

Just seeing this thread for the first time Larry, been a bit preoccupied lately. Your new tank is fabulous! I wish you much luck with it, will keep checking on progress here from now on.
Barb

Thanks Barb. You and Bill are in my daily thoughts and prayers.

[Larry Bugg]

It's been about a month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1u-AXkNNSY&feature=youtu.be

[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, they sure have settled in nice and there is some red developing. How's the red wigglers working out?

[winn0923]

Nice tank Larry! I also got in a group of 5 alenquer from john!


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[Larry Bugg]

Larry, they sure have settled in nice and there is some red developing. How's the red wigglers working out?

Thanks Pat, they really have settled in nicely. I'm very encouraged with the amount of red that is already showing up on them. In the right light there is a lot of red on some of them. There are still a couple of the blues in the tank and I have a couple of the reds in a 125, lol. I didn't do a very good job of telling them apart when I pulled them. This weekend I will have to pull the wood and swap them back correctly. The red wigglers are working out great. When I first drop them in they can't seem to eat them whole but when I come back to the tank an hour or two later they are all gone. I appreciate you help with them. Now I just have to figure out where to keep the bin during the summer. It gets pretty hot in the basement.


Nice tank Larry! I also got in a group of 5 alenquer from john!


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Hope you are enjoying them. John's stock is outstanding this season.

[DiscusBR]

Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, I keep my bins on the front porch in the summer....you know, those 90 degree type temps. Your bin should be fine in your basement.

[OC Discus]

It's been about a month

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1u-AXkNNSY&feature=youtu.be

Very nice setup Larry. How often do they get the live worms? The sand looks really clean- How do you keep it that way?

[Larry Bugg]

Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Mauro


Larry, I keep my bins on the front porch in the summer....you know, those 90 degree type temps. Your bin should be fine in your basement.

Cool, the basement it is.


Very nice setup Larry. How often do they get the live worms? The sand looks really clean- How do you keep it that way?

The worms are fairly new for me so I can't really say how often yet. Someone like Pat that has been keeping red wigglers for a while can probably answer that better. If I can feed them daily without depleting the stock then that is what I would like to do.

Keeping sand clean really isn't that hard. Sometimes when I vac a tank with sand I will just skim the surface but other times I will let the vac suck the sand up into the tube. If you hold it at just the right height it will sift around inside the tube without sucking all the way out. Then I pull the tube up higher and let the sand fall out and put it back and fill it up again.

[Second Hand Pat]

OC, the trick with the red wigglers is to have the colony be self sustaining. You harvest the smaller worms and leave the adults as your breeding stock. So your colony size is based on how you feed and harvest the worms. I have been feeding more worms to the fish but not feeding the worms enough so I will need to slack off a little on the harvesting so the worms can catch up.

[Discus-n00b]

Can you direct me to your worm breeding setup or briefly describe it Pat? Thinking about doing it myself.

[winn0923]

Same here


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[Second Hand Pat]

Sure Matt, the first thread is bin setup and the second is worm prep prior to feeding.

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?87556-Worm-Wars

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?88726-Red-Wiggler-Worm-Prep

[Discus-n00b]

Excellent thanks Pat. I'm one of those hipster juicer people now ;) so I always have tons of pulp and skins left over I could use for this purpose instead of tossing it down the disposal.

[Second Hand Pat]

Excellent thanks Pat. I'm one of those hipster juicer people now ;) so I always have tons of pulp and skins left over I could use for this purpose instead of tossing it down the disposal.

Yes Matt but nothing acidic.

[winn0923]

Off topic for this thread, but pat where do you get a starter culture for these?


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[Second Hand Pat]

Winn, there is a link on the worm wars thread on where I got my worms. PM me if you do not find it.

Sorry for the hijack Larry.

[Larry Bugg]

Lol, I think you know how I feel about this..................but, I'm all about helping grow the discus hobby. I don't mind at all having my threads take side discussions like this one, in fact I welcome it!! I'll always get it back on track when I post another update, lol.

I get my red wigglers here http://unclejimswormfarm.com/index.php/Live-Worms/View-all-products.html

[Second Hand Pat]

Ditto on that Larry, my threads always seem to take little sideways but anything to help promote the hobby and that is where I got my worms also.

[Carolina discus]

Very impressive Larry !!!!
Nice set up and outstanding wilds! I am hoping to get my seperate building next year and have some goals to work with some wilds when set up...
I need to make a trip to meet you and the Atlanta group at some point soon.
Enjoy following your thread
All the best

[Larry Bugg]

Thanks Eric. This has been fun and this time around with Wllds has been evolving and changing (GROWING) since I first made the decision to give them another shot at breeding. I started out thinking I would get one group of wilds for the 220 and work with them. I have two 125's that I have not been using for discus. Well, I'm now relocating the fish from those two tanks so they will be available for wilds. I have a group of 6 Heckels coming in from John on Tuesday. Like I said it is a plan in progress but now I'm thinking I would like to work on some wild/wild and wild/domestic crosses (that is where the heckels come in). Since I'm only working 6 1/2 hours a day now, I have more time than I had in the past to put into this which makes a huge difference.

It would be great if you could make it down here sometime and I would enjoy getting up there at some point. You should consider coming to Austin in June!!

[winn0923]

Nice. Johns selection were nice this year. I'm taking a plunge w some nhamunda red semi royal from him also after receiving and seeing now good the alenquers look. They should also arrive on tues over here to Dallas :)


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[Second Hand Pat]

Nice Larry, which heckels are you getting from John? With the recent spawning activity I have in the big tank it appears I have two males in my heckel group.

[Larry Bugg]

Nice Larry, which heckels are you getting from John? With the recent spawning activity I have in the big tank it appears I have two males in my heckel group.

I'm getting 4 of the Nhamunda Brilliants and two of the Nhamunda blue face.

[Larry Bugg]

I have been making cuts in the 220. The plan has been to get down to 10 to 12 for the final number. I am down to the final 6 from my current group of wilds. I will add the new guys I have ordered from Mark and that will get me to my magic spot. I am really pleased with how these guys have been settling. They are starting to show some great color and their shape is pretty decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LHpKtWl5ls&feature=youtu.be


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LHpKtWl5ls&feature=youtu.be

[Second Hand Pat]

They are looking great Larry. Am I seeing one with a dark tail in the right back corner?

[winn0923]

Very nice Larry!


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[Discus-n00b]

They look outstanding Larry! You have some amazing fish there.

[Larry Bugg]

They are looking great Larry. Am I seeing one with a dark tail in the right back corner?

Maybe Pat but maybe just because I want to see what you see, lol.


Very nice Larry!


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Thanks Winn.


They look outstanding Larry! You have some amazing fish there.

Thanks Matt. I'm very happy with them after just a couple of months. I'm excited to see the changes in them over the next year or so.

[joanstone]

Beautiful fish in a beautiful tank!

[DiscusBR]

Beautiful fish in a beautiful tank!

+1

[Larry Bugg]

Took a few still shots tonight.



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http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210900_zps0e871785.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210900_zps0e871785.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210752_zps87c77d20.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210752_zps87c77d20.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210735_zps3e1dbeae.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210735_zps3e1dbeae.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210700_zpsde22fef9.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210700_zpsde22fef9.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210611_zpsf1a02625.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/Cuipeua%2004%2025%2014/20140425_210611_zpsf1a02625.jpg.html)

[musicmarn1]

These look amazing Lrry, well done!

[israelillo81]

Beautiful specimens, they look they receive excellent care


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[rickztahone]

Gorgeous Larry. Way to go.

[Second Hand Pat]

They look great Larry, they are settling in very nice :D

[trungnguyen]

Very nice and large wilds, Larry.

[DiscusBR]

Wow! Looking amazing. That royal is a killer. And the they all have great shape and colors. A lot of promise here Larry.

[winn0923]

That royal is legit Larry!


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[blueluv]

Wow! Amazing! Great shape and color.


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[Larry Bugg]

Wow! Looking amazing. That royal is a killer. And the they all have great shape and colors. A lot of promise here Larry.


That royal is legit Larry!


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Thanks guys. I think the Royal is going on a little vacation the end of June.

[DiscusBR]

I think the Royal is going on a little vacation the end of June.

:confused:

[rickztahone]

:confused:

I am assuming Larry will be taking that particular fish to NADA

[Larry Bugg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxLGor6gZr4&feature=youtu.be

[Chicago Discus]

Larry this tank and wilds look great....I love the halos.....Josie

[dagray]

Beautiful tank, beautiful fish.

Dave

[Len]

They look awesome Larry.

[Second Hand Pat]

They do look awesome Larry, with a bit of luck the more red based ones are female maybe :o

[Larry Bugg]

Larry this tank and wilds look great....I love the halos.....Josie

Thanks Josie. I have always loved the halos on wilds. I like them on domestics but they seem to have a different look on wilds I think.


Beautiful tank, beautiful fish.

Dave


They look awesome Larry.

Thanks, appreciate the comments.


They do look awesome Larry, with a bit of luck the more red based ones are female maybe :o

Thanks Pat. Guess time will tell on the females. I haven't gotten them figured out yet lol. Thinking about adding the ones from Mark pretty soon.

[Second Hand Pat]

Larry, we will talk at the show to maybe give you some hints on determining who is who if you have the time.

[Larry Bugg]

Larry, we will talk at the show to maybe give you some hints on determining who is who if you have the time.

LOL, I'm not in charge this time. I'm going to have plenty of time.

[Second Hand Pat]

LOL, I'm not in charge this time. I'm going to have plenty of time.

Sometimes it is nice to not be the boss...or perhaps most of the time :D

[Larry Bugg]

Some current pics.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_194809_zps15a30563.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_194809_zps15a30563.jpg.html)

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http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_194911_zps7152f8da.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_194911_zps7152f8da.jpg.html)

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http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210441_zps02e5456d.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210441_zps02e5456d.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210511_zps693e84ed.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210511_zps693e84ed.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210524_zpsbfc4c22e.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210524_zpsbfc4c22e.jpg.html)

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http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210611_zpsc6981d96.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210611_zpsc6981d96.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210904_zpsecb30df4.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210904_zpsecb30df4.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210919_zps4d79437b.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210919_zps4d79437b.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210941_zpsfd5ee3db.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_210941_zpsfd5ee3db.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_211450_zps9226a564.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_211450_zps9226a564.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_211455_zps16e35a9d.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_211455_zps16e35a9d.jpg.html)

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_211501_zpsd80f2504.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/user/Bugman30040/media/220%2011%2014%2014/20141114_211501_zpsd80f2504.jpg.html)

[Second Hand Pat]

Nice Larry, anything happening??

[israelillo81]

Super red ! Very nice


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[Larry Bugg]

Nothing yet Pat. Just swimming around looking pretty.

[Kirbs]

Real nice Larry! Beautiful fish and tank!