Kenny/Forrest Simply Auction One - Albino White Butterfly

[Second Hand Pat]

Dear SimplyDiscus Friends,

I am pleased to announce that Kenny and Forrest have kindly donated 16 3.5 to 6 inch discus for three auctions. For auction One the highest bidder will receive Six 3.5-4.0" Albino White Butterfly.

The fish for this auction are the exact fish shown in the pictures below.

Please note that the winner will pay for shipping (Kenny's discounted Fedex Priority Overnight rate). Canadian members can participate in this auction if they are near the Canadian/US border and can arrange with Kenny to pick them up at a FedEx location or airport in the US

The auction will end Monday June 16 at 10:00 PM EST

Please note: you may only bid on this auction if you were a registered member prior to the auction start date of June 7, 2014 and have 10 or more posts. Members' bids who do not meet this criteria will be removed.

For any questions please send myself a PM or email Kenny (kennysdiscus@gmail.com) since we will be monitoring the auction. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Kenny and Forrest for their generous donation.

Auction One:

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[Keith Perkins]

$250

[tiSherman]

$260

[brewmaster15]

I've said it before, but want to again.. Thank you everyone! Please keep those bids coming. Kenny and Forrest have put up some awesome fish for the forum. Please show them your appreciation for their generosity by participating in these auctions if you can.

Thank you!
al

[Kenny's Discus]

Thanks everyone for your support and bids. Once these auction fish settle nicely in my tanks in the coming days, I will take much better actual tank pics and post them here again.

Kenny

[azmtns]

$280

[Keith Perkins]

$290

[Bill63SG]

$290

Sheesh,over $400 worth of fish for less then $300?if I hadnt made that trip to Beals,I'd be all over this.

[Second Hand Pat]

Thank you to all who have bid on these awesome fish...and remember, these could go to some lucky dad for Father's Day :D

[gundala]

$300.01

[kyaw06]

$350

[jaykne]

These guys are really looking awesome much better now they have started to regain their color, and watched Kenny feed them this afternoon they were all eating like they are starving lol. + 1 on what Bill said, if you were to call Kenny and purchase theses fish you would pay over $400! Thank you everyone for your bids and keep them coming this is an awesome deal and for the forum!

[Kenny's Discus]

Here are some actual tank pics of the Albino White Butterflies, hope you enjoy them:
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Thanks again to all for your participation and support to SD!

Kenny

[Steve&Tammy]

$375

[Steve&Tammy]

PM....... not AM :) I see

[kyaw06]

PM....... not AM :) I see
385

[Steve&Tammy]

$397

[Snow]

399.44

[jaykne]

Thanks for your support Snow you are the winner of this auction you will receive a pm soon!

[Snow]

I love supporting this group and knowing that Kenny & Forrest are great sponsors of healthy fish :)

[Nathanp]

Congrats!!! Beautiful fish!!

[Kenny's Discus]

Congrats Tammy for your winning bid and also a huge THANK YOU to everyone who participated in these auctions once again!

Kenny

[Ardan]

Congratulations Tammy! Those discus are some beauties!

Ardan

[Steve&Tammy]

CONFUSED....... Did Snow win? Or did we win? Snow's bid came in after it turned 10pm. Is Snow's name Tammy too? Kenny ???

[Steve&Tammy]

CONFUSED....... Did Snow win? Or did we win? Snow's bid came in after it turned 10pm. Is Snow's name Tammy too? Kenny ???

Not trying to start a war here but when an auction ends at 10pm- if you bid once the clock turns 10pm - you are too late......

Got this info from major sites including ebay.

Also as seen on Large collector's site: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.collectors-society.com%2Fubbthreads.php%3Fubb%3Dshowflat%26Nu mber%3D7776698&ei=ekygU_TCJc6DqgbZmYEI&usg=AFQjCNEDcr5A2px86J-6kUPzIe9AacIoWg&bvm=bv.68911936,d.b2k&cad=rja

Auction ends at Sunday 10 PM EST exactly -- only bids timestamped up to 9:59 PM will be accepted. Bids at 10 PM will not be accepted.

[Second Hand Pat]

399.44


CONFUSED....... Did Snow win? Or did we win? Snow's bid came in after it turned 10pm. Is Snow's name Tammy too? Kenny ???

Yes Snow won and her name is Tammy also. If you look at post #18 you will see the time stamp on that post is exactly 10:00pm. I always use the time maintained by the forum because it is the only time common to all members. Your last bid was timestamped at 9:57pm in post #17. Sorry if that is confusing but the only way to remain fair.

[Steve&Tammy]

Yes Snow won and her name is Tammy also. If you look at post #18 you will see the time stamp on that post is exactly 10:00pm. I always use the time maintained by the forum because it is the only time common to all members. Your last bid was timestamped at 9:57pm in post #17. Sorry if that is confusing but the only way to remain fair.

The time maintained on the forum is not the issue. The issue is any auction site sets a time for the auction to end. If that time is 10pm once the clock turns 10pm you can no longer bid. If the clock is at 9:59:59 you win if it is 10pm you are too late. Sorry but accepting bids time stamped 10pm is NOT fair....plus Snow did this on 2 of these auctions. Have to respectfully disagree on this one.

[Second Hand Pat]

I understand Steve&Tammy but I did confer with Al on this and he agrees with the way the auctions were run. If you still have issue with this please feel free to contact Al. I will be more precise in the auction wording next time so everything is clear.
Pat

[brewmaster15]

The time maintained on the forum is not the issue. The issue is any auction site sets a time for the auction to end. If that time is 10pm once the clock turns 10pm you can no longer bid. If the clock is at 9:59:59 you win if it is 10pm you are too late. Sorry but accepting bids time stamped 10pm is NOT fair....plus Snow did this on 2 of these auctions. Have to respectfully disagree on this one.


Steve&Tammy,
I understand your frustration at not winning here and I appreciate your support of the auction and the forum in this matter, However.. The auction was set to close at 10 pm.. and the winning bid came in at 10 pm exactly. We are not going to split hairs over a difference of a few seconds. This is not ebay or an auction site., its a fish forum and the auction here was not something that anyone paid to participate in.... it was something to raise funds for the forum. I hope you can accept our position, but If you wish to disagree, I can respect that as well.


Normally when we have an auction this is never an issue, but this time the bidding was close and we made an executive decision as is our right in anything that is on SimplyDiscus. If I had a second set of fish to award you, I would, but unfortunately we do not have that luxury. Future auctions will be more precise in their rules so that we do not disappoint anyone again like this.

But as for this Auction...I am sorry... we are accepting 10 pm as the end point and the winning bid came in at 10 pm....its close enough for a website that normally talks fish.

thanks,
al

[Keith Perkins]

I've attended a church auction with professional auctioneers that stated up front that since the auction was for a church if they missed seeing a bid or the like that they would error on the side of the church. There were hundreds of people sitting on the gym bleachers and I was right square in front of the auctioneer. Two people at opposite ends of the bleachers were the last bidding on an item that I wanted for my son-in-law. When one dropped out, I immediately raised my number card high in the air. Because the auctioning team was focused on the two guys on the end they never saw me with my number raised right in front of them. Immediately after they called sold I was seen, and they re-explained what they said at the start and the auction was re-opened without any other bids being entered after mine. I don't know if the other bidder had reached his limit or was PO'd, but I won the item. My only point is though I well understand Tammy being ticked. when auctions are being done for something like this it's not uncommon to error on the side of the forum.

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Congratulations to the winner.

Al is right, this is a forum and not an auction site. The forum has run many of auctions in the past with all positive results. This was a close one and an exciting finish.

You can split hairs by saying 10:00 pm means before 9:59:59 or 10:00:59. Next time we can make that perfectly clear so there will be no confusion.

[Snow]

WoW, this is the first that I have seen all of this! Please let me say that I am very sorry to start any kind of dispute on this wonderful forum. It really makes me feel bad and sad at the same time. I am not 1 who would intentionally hurt others feelings. I hope that the majority here will not see it this way. I was sweating it (just like everyone else) to get that bid in by the 10:00 pm mark and not 10:01! If it had ended up that way I would have happily & gladly deferred to the winner that got their bid in before it turned 10:01.

Again, I'm so very sorry to be the one to cause such hard feelings and I'm the new comer here as well. I can't even begin to explain how this has taken the "joy" out of my winning. I'm feeling pretty low now.

Sorry to everyone who may be offended. But, a huge thanks to those who congratulated me <3

[Second Hand Pat]

Tammy, please do not take it that way as none of this has anything to do with you. Enjoy your fish and we are working with Steve&Tammy on this.

Pat

[brewmaster15]

WoW, this is the first that I have seen all of this! Please let me say that I am very sorry to start any kind of dispute on this wonderful forum. It really makes me feel bad and sad at the same time. I am not 1 who would intentionally hurt others feelings. I hope that the majority here will not see it this way. I was sweating it (just like everyone else) to get that bid in by the 10:00 pm mark and not 10:01! If it had ended up that way I would have happily & gladly deferred to the winner that got their bid in before it turned 10:01.

Again, I'm so very sorry to be the one to cause such hard feelings and I'm the new comer here as well. I can't even begin to explain how this has taken the "joy" out of my winning. I'm feeling pretty low now.

Sorry to everyone who may be offended. But, a huge thanks to those who congratulated me <3

Tammy,
Sometimes even when we have the best laid out plans things can get complicated.. This issue has nothing to do with you or your bid. Next auction we will take steps make sure that misunderstandings do not occur... just like keeping Discus has a learning curve..Running a Forum does as well. You'd think after 12 years we would have it perfect... but sadly thats not true.

Enjoy your auction fish and you have my thanks again for the support here for the forum.

Thanks again,
Al

All...
At this point I ask that those parties with issues to discuss or concerns about the auction to please discuss them with me or The forum staff privately. This is taking away from the generosity of Kenny and Forrest here and the spirit of the auction and that is something that should not happen . Thank you.