Growing out small discus with adults

[STHH]

Sold some adults discus to made way for 6 small discus in my tank, which houses 6 adults. These 6 small discus were housed in a 2ft quarantine tank previously.
Have to add some 2kg of biohome media first.


Surprised that they get along so well, and the adults are not bullying the little ones at all, esp during meal time. None of the small discus are stressed or hiding, and they are eating very well.

Will have to give up some more discus once the small discus have grown up.
Here are some pics and a video.

The babies
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0270_zps7fce66a0.jpg

A red juvenile with yellow adults. The colour contrast is strong.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0279_zps61250fe7.jpg


Adults escorting juveniles
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0280_zps2c842a2c.jpg

All of them
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0282_zps6b23f87e.jpg

Video of them eating. These juveniles show no fear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aAE0RDlI8Y&feature=youtu.be

[Quintin]

They dnt look much smaller than ur adults so they should be fine.Nice fish allround.Hope it stays going well for you.

[STHH]

They dnt look much smaller than ur adults so they should be fine.Nice fish allround.Hope it stays going well for you.

Thanks. The blue diamond juveniles are barely 3 inches only,(2.5inch when i first got them) compared to a 6.5 inch yellow. The red marlboro juveniles are slightly larger, growing up to 4 inches already, from the 3 inches when i first got them.

[nc0gnet0]

A lot will depend on the temperament of your fish, so it's really a crap shoot. They may start out all playing nice, but as your smaller ones grow and start to approach the size of the older ones, this can be when the aggression starts.

[Chad Adams]

You have very nice fish.

I personally would not mix the sizes. It typically is a bad idea. I'm not telling you that you can't do it or that it can't be done, I just wouldn't recommend it. Everything may be fine for a while, but usually when you realize some are falling behind its too late.

Good luck with your tank buddy.

Chad

[AquaMike]

they look pretty happy, how big is your tank STHH?

[STHH]

A lot will depend on the temperament of your fish, so it's really a crap shoot. They may start out all playing nice, but as your smaller ones grow and start to approach the size of the older ones, this can be when the aggression starts.

I have been really fortunate so far. The smaller ones actually learnt to behave better in this tank with adults. In the smaller tank, they are really bully each other, until one of them turn rather shy, and started hovering around the top. But in this tank with adults, the bullied one got respite from the bullying, and started eating again !!!


You have very nice fish.

I personally would not mix the sizes. It typically is a bad idea. I'm not telling you that you can't do it or that it can't be done, I just wouldn't recommend it. Everything may be fine for a while, but usually when you realize some are falling behind its too late.

Good luck with your tank buddy.

Chad

Thanks. My fishes are just pet quality fishes. I have increased the water change to the big tank to 4 times 80% a week, and siphoning 3 times daily. Hopefully that will be good for the fishes. They are so used to my hand being in the tank now, i think they look at my hand like another fish.


they look pretty happy, how big is your tank STHH?

Thanks. It's a small 4ft tank. You can see the pic here
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?114389-Discus-tank-revamp
except this time, i removed all gravel to prepare for the juveniles.

[STHH]

Will update more pics one month later. These fishes will hopefully grown bigger by then.

[Kev29]

Love those yellows, mine turned orange:(

[Quintin]

Yes definately do updates.And as kev24 stated hes turned orange be selective on what you feed no color enhancing foods to be safe.

[STHH]

It's not a month yet, but here's an update anyway.
They are all still happily eating and co-existing with each other.
All of them have grown quite a bit.
In the first pic, you can compare the size of the juvenile red with a 6.5" Yellow.

In the sec pic, you can see the size of the same red compared to the blue diamond juvenile.

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0344_zps3bcf54fe.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0347_zps4f797ebc.jpg

[STHH]

Love those yellows, mine turned orange:(

One of my yellow is orangey at the fringe. It ate tetra bits many months ago, but i have since fed all my fish only beefheart mix with no additives.

[Carlos Roberto]

Nice fish! how big is the aquarium?

You started using beefheart exclusively since you got them?

Cheers:D

[STHH]

Nice fish! how big is the aquarium?

You started using beefheart exclusively since you got them?

Cheers:D

Thanks. It's a small 4ft tank. You can see the pic here
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...us-tank-revamp
except this time, i removed all gravel to prepare for the juveniles.

When i had the juveniles, I fed them exclusively on beefheart with no additives. I suspect they snack on the hikari sinking food meant for my cories when the lights are off.

[Kev29]

nice fish

[STHH]

The juveniles are growing really fast.
Here's a tank shot of them
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0403_zps88c813d2.jpg

An updated video of the fishes eating. They are really ravenous, eating 4 meals a day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4PMm8zaaBA

[DISCUS STU]

Depending on tank space, (always limited for me) I will grow out smaller fish with big fish. If the sizes are really disproportionate, full growns with 2" or slightly smaller, the big guys really don't seem to pay any attention or have any aggression to the little ones and their not in competition.

The older literature used to mention growth inhibiting hormones from full grown Discus effecting had that could effect growing fish. I have no idea of it's really true or not.

[STHH]

It's been a month since they have joined the adults, and here are some captured moments of them just before feeding.
I usually siphon out any dirt on the bottom before feeding, to make sure they are only eating good stuff.
Still ravenous as ever, they actually anticipate their feeding time, when all of them started coming forward towards the glass.

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0485_zps3f99155b.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pETKHo1Fe0A

[ujwaldignified]

It's been a month since they have joined the adults, and here are some captured moments of them just before feeding.
I usually siphon out any dirt on the bottom before feeding, to make sure they are only eating good stuff.
Still ravenous as ever, they actually anticipate their feeding time, when all of them started coming forward towards the glass.

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0485_zps3f99155b.jpg




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pETKHo1Fe0A
Any updates of your growout tank bro?

[STHH]

They have all grown, and still get along very well with each other. Their appetite is fantastic. Here's couple of updated pictures I just took, with the size comparison to my yellow discus, which is 17cm long.
The reds are near adults now, and the blues needs to grow up more still.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0729_zps63cf9108.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0728_zpsefd62af4.jpg

[ujwaldignified]

17cm is including the tail or just the body?

They have all grown, and still get along very well with each other. Their appetite is fantastic. Here's couple of updated pictures I just took, with the size comparison to my yellow discus, which is 17cm long.
The reds are near adults now, and the blues needs to grow up more still.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0729_zps63cf9108.jpg
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0728_zpsefd62af4.jpg

[c_sir]

the growth is fantastic. your big yellow discus is awesome, what strain is it?

[voiceinthedesert]

That is a gorgeous assortment.

[STHH]

17cm is including the tail or just the body?
17cm is including the tail.


the growth is fantastic. your big yellow discus is awesome, what strain is it?
Thanks. I think the yellow discus is a golden pigeon, but I can't be sure, because I got it from a neighbourhood LFS and it came without label.


That is a gorgeous assortment.
Thanks.

[discycle]

Healthy & Colorful group of discus, very clean water too.

[BODYDUB]

That is a gorgeous assortment.

I 2nd that.................

[STHH]

Healthy & Colorful group of discus, very clean water too.


I 2nd that.................

Thank you for your kind comments. Just rinsed the box filter, and scrubbed the driftwoods, which collected so much gunk from all the beef heart feeding. Had to do a 200% water change while the fish is house temporarily in another tank. But seeing them grow is rewarding for all that effort.

[STHH]

The little discus have all grown to sub-adults, and 2 blue diamonds have found home, which also help reduce the bioload.
The tank got simplified yet again, and a pot of crypt bonsai got removed. Spacing between the driftwood is increased to allow the discus to swim through them easily.
Here's couple of images.

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0017_zps89dc2eea.jpg

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0033_zpseea1a10c.jpg

[STHH]

Swimming together
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr346/trelch/STHH0038_zpsc2d4b664.jpg

[ujwaldignified]

Any updates ?