Pat's 180 Build

[Second Hand Pat]

Some of you may know that I have a 180 (72x24x24) on order and hope to receive it in about three weeks or so. I do have a canopy and stand which was built of solid oak for a 180 I had back in 1986. We recently pulled the stand and canopy down from the barn loft and it is in prime condition. I was a rather surprised about that (pictures later).

The tank will come with a 64 gallon sump (48x18x18) and I have decided on the final design for the sump. It will have a drip plate on the inlet side of the sump and no internal chambers. I will use poret foam to place chambers where I want which allows for maximum customization.

I have had the tank customized a bit. The tank came with a center overflow and I wanted double overflows in the back corners. The overflow dimensions are 12x6 inches and I asked for the long side of the overflow to be placed on the side vs the back of the tank. A bit ugly from the side and easier to see and maintain.

I will be ordering a background from Universal Rocks which is the rocky background and I will need to order a custom size. I will also order two extra bits to wrap the overflows so the background will hopefully look seamless.

The lights will be from buildmyled. Most like the Fish Focus Red, unsure of fixture length. I will be ordering one for the 90 and will use that to guide me on what I will need for the 180. So here are my initial plans.

[Whiskey]

Sounds cool!

What are your plans for the tank? Will it be BB? Sand? Do you plan on adding Plants or Driftwood?

I had a 180 reef with a 50G sump and the best thing I ever did was put a door on the right side so I could slide the sump in and out of the stand incase I ever needed to. It was rare when I used it, but I did need it a couple times and I was so grateful I didn't have to take the tank down to get the sump out.

Whiskey

[musicmarn1]

do you have any sketches or pictures before it arrives Pat? very exciting !! :p

[Second Hand Pat]

Sounds cool!

What are your plans for the tank? Will it be BB? Sand? Do you plan on adding Plants or Driftwood?

I had a 180 reef with a 50G sump and the best thing I ever did was put a door on the right side so I could slide the sump in and out of the stand incase I ever needed to. It was rare when I used it, but I did need it a couple times and I was so grateful I didn't have to take the tank down to get the sump out.

Whiskey

Whiskey, it will be a biotope for wild Tefe's :) so sand, nice driftwood, blackwater, and no plants. I think I can unscrew the side panel if needed for sump removal if needed.

[Second Hand Pat]

do you have any sketches or pictures before it arrives Pat? very exciting !! :p

Like this Marnie...

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_6008_zpsa8b93680.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_6008_zpsa8b93680.jpg.html)

Canopy open

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_6009_zpsf66903d7.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_6009_zpsf66903d7.jpg.html)

[Second Hand Pat]

And a piece of driftwood....big piece

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5971_zps92431e57.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5971_zps92431e57.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5972_zps03284b04.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5972_zps03284b04.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5973_zpsfed4fcf3.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5973_zpsfed4fcf3.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5974_zps2734dd79.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/DSC_5974_zps2734dd79.jpg.html)

[rickztahone]

Can't wait to see the pics Pat. I know you've been building up for this one. I wish I had something like this planned, it is always so exciting! Good luck. Any chance some Altums will ever make it to this tank as well?

[Second Hand Pat]

It's possible Ricardo if they outgrow the 90 which they will be in soon. They are getting to tall for the 75.

[Disgirl]

Sounds like a great tank Pat. What will be going in there? I look forward to following the progress here, good luck with it all!
Barb

[Larry Bugg]

Where the heck did you get that driftwood???? Outrageous.

[Second Hand Pat]

Sounds like a great tank Pat. What will be going in there? I look forward to following the progress here, good luck with it all!
Barb

Thanks Barb, a wild Tefe biotope :D so excited.

[Second Hand Pat]

Where the heck did you get that driftwood???? Outrageous.

Isn't it gorgeous Larry and it"s huge...found it on eBay.

[Larry Bugg]

Isn't it gorgeous Larry and it"s huge...found it on eBay.

I want it.

[Second Hand Pat]

I want it.

You should see the other piece I got :)

[Second Hand Pat]

Here's another piece I will be messing with...

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/driftwood2_zps5d5fcbfd.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/driftwood2_zps5d5fcbfd.jpg.html)
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/driftwood1_zpsc6528718.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/driftwood1_zpsc6528718.jpg.html)

[Larry Bugg]

That will look fantastic in a tank!!

[Second Hand Pat]

That will look fantastic in a tank!!

What I like about this piece Larry is you can get that a good root effect.

[rickztahone]

What seller on ebay Pat?

[musicmarn1]

absolutely divine!! Pat did you see the new book by Heiko?! on biotopes !! looks scrumptious, I saw a video on it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kThTSR7gXdM

[Second Hand Pat]

What seller on ebay Pat?

I will look those up shortly Ricardo. I bugged my ankle and trying to keep it elevated ATM.

[Second Hand Pat]

absolutely divine!! Pat did you see the new book by Heiko?! on biotopes !! looks scrumptious, I saw a video on it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kThTSR7gXdM

On FB Marnie, does it show parts of the book or is the video just a Heiko interview?

[musicmarn1]

no he does go through the book so you can see how lovely it is !! looks amazing and has total biotope set up guides for each region, gps points for everwhere he goes and then a breakdown of each species, said its the one that took him 10 years to finally finish

[Second Hand Pat]

What seller on ebay Pat?

Ricardo, here are links to the two sellers. One seller currently does not have anything listed and the other has a couple interesting pieces.

http://www.ebay.com/usr/carrington987?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

http://www.ebay.com/usr/adams-driftwood-sales?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2754

[rickztahone]

Thanks Pat. Do the prices go really high in auction typically, do you know?

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Pat. Do the prices go really high in auction typically, do you know?

Not sure I really know Ricardo. I think what I paid for these two pieces are reasonable considering the size of the pieces. If you have a particular scape in mind and you find the right piece it gives you a little extra motivation. :) I picked up this piece for about $16. It is 10x7x6 and hope it will be a natural looking extension to the piece I have sitting on the front porch. It may be too small but a similar but much larger piece was $112 which I felt was a bit pricey.

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad95/Second_Hand_Pat/180%20Tank%20Build/driftwood3_zps0e0a6de6.jpg (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/Second_Hand_Pat/media/180%20Tank%20Build/driftwood3_zps0e0a6de6.jpg.html)

[DianasDiscus]

Thanks for that link! I have always kept a light substrate until I recent set my tank back up and my husband wanted it dark. Shouldn't wives know better and never listen to their husbands? I love the biotope look and have been turned from the dark side back into the light!
Pat! Love Love Love the wood.


absolutely divine!! Pat did you see the new book by Heiko?! on biotopes !! looks scrumptious, I saw a video on it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kThTSR7gXdM

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks for that link! I have always kept a light substrate until I recent set my tank back up and my husband wanted it dark. Shouldn't wives know better and never listen to their husbands? I love the biotope look and have been turned from the dark side back into the light!
Pat! Love Love Love the wood.

Thanks Diana :)

[Pardal]

Pat
The stands and canopy looks great, and the wood is awesome is going to be a killer tank definately
unfortunaley my band with is not that good here on the ship so I can't open all the pics and videos
By the way I have an earlier christmas this year so when I went home early December . I order a new tank is going to be a 150 tall 48x24x30 acrylic round corners no seams is getting build now by fishtankdirect.com
I planning to put a 50 gallon tank as a sump.
and on top of that the wife gave me a bedroom that is going to be a fishroom huyaah!
I left one side of stands almost finish when I left. I will post pics as I building it.
a slow progress but keeping my motivation going.
and specially your postings.
Sincerely
Julian.

[Second Hand Pat]

Merry Christmas Julian and a what a pleasant surprise to see you dropping by. Very cool on the new tank and fishroom. :D:D You will be sitting on pins and needles until you can come home and finish that up. You better post pictures and progress as you go.

My tank and sump are complete and being shipped next week and will be a new year project. I'm so excited.
Pat

[Pardal]

Happy New Years!!!! Pat.
Yes I can't wait, yes will post progress as I get a chance.
I will be transfering to Mayport Fl in June-July just four miles from home. where I planning to retire from there.
I hope me and Mary can go and drop by one day to see your set up an amaizing wilds.
Julian.

[Second Hand Pat]

Happy New Year to you too Julian. How exciting you will soon be back in Fl and the process begins. Of course you and Mary may stop by. :D
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

Crossing fingers, the tank should be here Wednesday :D

[khooyang]

Any updates on the tank? Eagerly waiting for the updates :)

[Second Hand Pat]

Well, long story short...The tank and sump arrived three weeks ago and everything looked perfect from the outside. Removed the top of the crate for the tank and there were two cracks in corners in one of the openings (remember that this is an acrylic tank). One of the cracks went clear through the acrylic and started down the front of the tank for about an inch and a half.

The tank is insured so I am waiting for the shipping company to pick it up and the new tank should ship the end of next week. Best guess on the cause of the damage is something heavy was stacked on top of the crate as the "Do Not Stack" cone was missing from the top of the crate. I was bummed.
Pat

[ericNH]

It is a bummer. Now I'll have to wait longer to see what you do with this thing. Glad to hear it was insured.

[Second Hand Pat]

It is a bummer. Now I'll have to wait longer to see what you do with this thing. Glad to hear it was insured.

Thanks Eric, the build is mostly planned out and have everything except the tank but the waiting continues...

[khooyang]

Insurance works :) Will come back soon.

[Second Hand Pat]

Finally the replacement tank was delivered today and was very pleased to remove the lid off the crate and find everything in good order. The background should arrival tomorrow and I will install it this weekend. Finally moving forward on this. :D:D:D

[rickztahone]

Awesome! Can't wait for pics.

[jmf3460]

I can hardly wait. I like your last piece of DW the best, its curlier and creates more individual caves. I may have looked over it but do you plan any other fish besides discus in this Pat??

[Second Hand Pat]

Awesome! Can't wait for pics.

Hopefully this weekend Ricardo after the background install. The tank is on the front porch on it's back drying out from the rinse today. :D
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

I can hardly wait. I like your last piece of DW the best, its curlier and creates more individual caves. I may have looked over it but do you plan any other fish besides discus in this Pat??

Not sure Jacklyn, some sort of cories and maybe some small cichlids.

[rickztahone]

Hopefully this weekend Ricardo after the background install. The tank is on the front porch on it's back drying out from the rinse today. :D
Pat

I forgot, where are you getting your background from?

[Second Hand Pat]

Universal Rock Ricardo. I am getting two 48x24 backgrounds and cutting to fit. That way I do not need a custom background.

[rickztahone]

Universal Rock Ricardo. I am getting two 48x24 backgrounds and cutting to fit. That way I do not need a custom background.

Nice. I'm looking at them to get a background for my 75g as well. I want the really slim line one they have though so that it covers up the overflow I plan to put in place that spans almost the whole tank on the top of the tank.

Similar to this:
https://www.universalrocks.com/aquarium-reptile-pet/backgrounds/custom-backgrounds/rocky-background-custom-size.htm

[Second Hand Pat]

That one looks good Ricardo. I will be trimming my for the overflows also. Looks like this http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Rocks-Flexible-Aquarium-Background/dp/B005GZ1X6Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1426818704&sr=1-1&keywords=Universal+Rocks+48-Inch+by+24-Inch+Rocky+Flexible+Aquarium+Background.

They are very thin and will not float which is a plus.

[rickztahone]

That one looks good Ricardo. I will be trimming my for the overflows also. Looks like this http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Rocks-Flexible-Aquarium-Background/dp/B005GZ1X6Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1426818704&sr=1-1&keywords=Universal+Rocks+48-Inch+by+24-Inch+Rocky+Flexible+Aquarium+Background.

They are very thin and will not float which is a plus.

NICE! Just added that to my wishlist! I hadn't seen that one. That would be more than enough for my tank. I will silicone it in place since I really do not like the blue background. With the extra 4" at the top, I can use that for the overflow :)

[Solid]

I have one of these backgrounds in my tank. They are pretty nice! Just make sure you do a good job sealing the edges with silicone to prevent small fish and crud from getting behind it.The "clips" it comes with are a joke. The background is hard silicone like material so they are pretty easy to trim.

[rickztahone]

I have one of these backgrounds in my tank. They are pretty nice! Just make sure you do a good job sealing the edges with silicone to prevent small fish and crud from getting behind it.The "clips" it comes with are a joke. The background is hard silicone like material so they are pretty easy to trim.

Good to know. Since I have an acrylic tank I am thinking I may need a good amount of silicone to make this work. Are the backs of the backgrounds flat or are the rock-like? If that makes sense

[Second Hand Pat]

Ricardo, the backs of the backgrounds are not flat so you will need to work at finding the contact points. Here is what the background looks like in a 90.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7494/15883282866_156a436c44_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/qcxYCA)DSC_6167 (https://flic.kr/p/qcxYCA) by plh (https://www.flickr.com/people/129594174@N08/), on Flickr

[Solid]

The back is bumpy, not flat. I put silicone around all the edges and then put silicone on all the high points along with some globs here and there. Then went around the edges with a small bead after background was in place.

[alcastro]

Biutiful Pat, i would almost k#%l for one of those, will need to start softening my wife up, you know be real real nice and buy her that dress she wanys wanted, lol
AL

[Second Hand Pat]

Biutiful Pat, i would almost k#%l for one of those, will need to start softening my wife up, you know be real real nice and buy her that dress she wanys wanted, lol
AL

Al, that is my 90 but the same background is going in the 180. Good luck with the spouse :D
Pat

[rickztahone]

oh cool, I'm glad to know that is the background. I actually really like that background :)

[rickztahone]

If I get juvies I will go BB. If I go sub adults I will finally use this PFS I have been holding on to for ever!

[Second Hand Pat]

The backgrounds came today and I got the main piece cut down and two side of the overflows. Here's some pictures. The white is the bottom of the tank. The two pieces on the side of the overflows are not siliconed in yet. Waiting for the silicone to arrival. The tank is laying on its back on the front poach if the pictures seem weird.

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[Ardan]

I never realized those backrounds went "inside" the tank...
Looks good!

Ardan

[Second Hand Pat]

I never realized those backrounds went "inside" the tank...
Looks good!

Ardan

Thanks Ardan, this is my third tank with this background. It is only 1/4 of an inch thick and beats the heck out of the Styrofoam backgrounds.
Pat

[winn0923]

Yup love them, I live 20 minutes from their direct factory and showroom ;), got a lots of rock and tree stump from there

[Ryan]

They are definitely much thinner than the other 3D backgrounds I've seen. I always avoided them because they took up 2" or so of valuable aquarium width. These look very nice! Are they easy to remove if you don't want them anymore? I'm assuming they're easier to scrape out of a glass tank than an acrylic tank...

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Ryan, these are only 1/4 inch thick and since the background does not float it did not need a ton of silicone to hold it in place. On this acrylic 180 I am only siliconing the pieces to the overflows. The background piece between the overflows will be held in by the background pieces on the side of the overflows.
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

I have the background installed and cleaned up the sump today and it is out drying. Will move it in tomorrow must likely.

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[DonMD]

Pat, how do you keep the background from getting a build-up of algae? And if it does build up, how do you clean it once it's in the tank? I've had 3-D backgrounds, and gave them up due to the hassle of cleaning ~ glass is sooo much easier. Also, love the acrylic, I'm thinking of replacing my display tank with that, when I get rich! Ha, LOL!

[Second Hand Pat]

Don, this background is only 1/4 of an inch thick so hardly 3D. I tend to keep my lights on the tank low so have no algae buildup. The wilds look great with a dim light setting. This tank and sump was about $2000 with shipping so no complaints there.
Pat

[jmf3460]

Pat, things are getting closer and closer, I bet you can hardly wait to see your beautiful fish swimming in there. Now are you moving existing fish or is this tank for your reds in the qt tanks still??

[Second Hand Pat]

Pat, things are getting closer and closer, I bet you can hardly wait to see your beautiful fish swimming in there. Now are you moving existing fish or is this tank for your reds in the qt tanks still??

It is getting closer Jacklyn. I ordered some plumbing parts I could not find locally last night. I am thinking about moving the Tefe's into this tank which will give me nine fish. I still think I am about two weeks out before the tank is setup and running. Today I need to move the sump inside and see how I will get it under the stand. Might have to move the stand up on one side, position the sump in the stand footprint and ease the stand back down over the sump...bit of a PITA.

[Solid]

Do you mind me asking where you got that sump? It looks like the style I wanted, with a wet/dry side.

[Second Hand Pat]

I had it custom made with my tank https://www.facebook.com/AcrylicCreations. I would suggest making the drawers as removable drawers for easy cleaning. I intending that for this sump but failed to make that clear on the drawing. :(

[Second Hand Pat]

Here's the website link http://www.acryliccreationspa.com/.

[rickztahone]

Can't wait to see this beast up and running. I'm sure you mentioned this already but how many gallons is that sump?

[Second Hand Pat]

Can't wait to see this beast up and running. I'm sure you mentioned this already but how many gallons is that sump?

64 Ricardo, the sump is 48x18x18.
Pat

[rickztahone]

Very nice. That is almost as large as my DT I'm working on! Can't wait to see this up and running.

BTW, I had been watching your post count for a few days waiting for you to hit that 20k and forgot for a few days. Now you are at 20,276! You are too quick Pat. Congrats on the 20k count :)

[Second Hand Pat]

Very nice. That is almost as large as my DT I'm working on! Can't wait to see this up and running.

BTW, I had been watching your post count for a few days waiting for you to hit that 20k and forgot for a few days. Now you are at 20,276! You are too quick Pat. Congrats on the 20k count :)

Thank Ricardo, at this rate I will soon catch up with Eddie...now that is a scary thought.

[rickztahone]

Thank Ricardo, at this rate I will soon catch up with Eddie...now that is a scary thought.

scary indeed.

[jmf3460]

haha your sump is as big as my biggest tank!! how small I am.

[Second Hand Pat]

haha your sump is as big as my biggest tank!! how small I am.

Jacklyn, your 75 is larger then this. I love 75s as they are so versitle.
Pat

[jmf3460]

Jacklyn, your 75 is larger then this. I love 75s as they are so versitle.
Pat

it aint larger by much. one day I aspire to have bigger tanks full of wilds like you, but I think it will have to wait until we either finish the basement and make the floor level, or move to a different house that has a portion on a cement pad. My 1949 home is at its limit with the current tanks I have I think.

[Second Hand Pat]

it aint larger by much. one day I aspire to have bigger tanks full of wilds like you, but I think it will have to wait until we either finish the basement and make the floor level, or move to a different house that has a portion on a cement pad. My 1949 home is at its limit with the current tanks I have I think.

Sounds like it Jacklyn. My house is on a cement slab (no basements in Florida due to a high water table) is no issues with tanks on the first floor.

[Second Hand Pat]

Ok, here's the tank with the background. Not a great picture but gives you an idea.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/16931155281_c05d740bf4_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rN9AAn)[/url][url=https://www.flickr.com/people/129594174@N08/] (https://flic.kr/p/rN9AAn)

[rickztahone]

I love it. Looks great. Can't wait to buy this background too. I can't get my project going until my pump is for sale. It has been out of stock for like a month already :(.

[Second Hand Pat]

I love it. Looks great. Can't wait to buy this background too. I can't get my project going until my pump is for sale. It has been out of stock for like a month already :(.

Thanks Ricardo, bummer on the pump being out of stock. I use a mag-drive 7 on my 75. Will be driving this baby with a mag-drive 9.5.:)
Pat

[rickztahone]

Thanks Ricardo, bummer on the pump being out of stock. I use a mag-drive 7 on my 75. Will be driving this baby with a mag-drive 9.5.:)
Pat

Yeah I remember your recommendation. I really like the feed mode feature because I have such a lousy memory and I like the fact that I can alter the pump rates to suite my overflow.

[jmf3460]

oooooooh, ahhhhhhhhhh, that background looks sweet Pat. Good job with the silicone and white bottom. I can hardly wait to see the wonderful pieces of DW and fish swimming around in there. I think that if I reincarnate to a fish, I would like to be a discus fish swimming in this tank.

[Second Hand Pat]

oooooooh, ahhhhhhhhhh, that background looks sweet Pat. Good job with the silicone and white bottom. I can hardly wait to see the wonderful pieces of DW and fish swimming around in there. I think that if I reincarnate to a fish, I would like to be a discus fish swimming in this tank.

Ah thanks Jacklyn, there is a picture of the main driftwood piece in the first dozen posts of the thread. It's a beast. :)
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

Finally making progress. Lots of start and stops :) The tank is inside on the stand with the sump underneath. Tom and I pieced together the plumping between the tank and the sump today. I will be gluing it tomorrow. Went with hard plumbing this time so a first.

[Second Hand Pat]

Plumbing picture. Tee-ed the drains together and the return is in the middle. Have unions in case some adjustments are needed in the future. The tank is pulled away from wall for easier accessibility.

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Right to left
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Attachments to the sump inlets. The sump is wrapped in shower liner which will be unwrapped once the tank is in place and laid out in the stand to catch drips etc and is used as water collector for any leaks.
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[rickztahone]

Looks sweet Pat. What pump did you go with? Mag 9?

[Second Hand Pat]

Yup Ricardo. You can see the barbed end in the right most picture.

[Discus Origins]

Very nice Pat! The setup is coming along and plumbing work first rate. Can't wait to see it running ��

[Second Hand Pat]

Gluing PVC is a hair raising experience and it dries way too fast. However, so far so good. The critical parts are done. :D:D
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

Very nice Pat! The setup is coming along and plumbing work first rate. Can't wait to see it running ��

Me too Mark. This one has been a long haul.
Pat

[Ryan]

Bump! What did you end up putting in this tank?

[Second Hand Pat]

Bump! What did you end up putting in this tank?

Nothing yet. Finally got the poret foam for the sump, cut it to the size needed and put the sump back together. Now need to run some water back into the sump and check the bulkhead repair. Then finish the return plumbing to the tank and should be in business. The Tefes will go in this tank. This has not been an easy build. :(

[Boyd Luth]

Very, very nice Pat :-) Had taken a break from our Forum. Acrylic vs. glass....I like the acrylic. Viewing your pictures, maybe I can dream of one ! Looking forward to the pictures of final setup, you have taught us patience :-).....

[Second Hand Pat]

Very, very nice Pat :-) Had taken a break from our Forum. Acrylic vs. glass....I like the acrylic. Viewing your pictures, maybe I can dream of one ! Looking forward to the pictures of final setup, you have taught us patience :-).....

In this case procrastination Boyd :p
Pat

[Woodduck]

Ricardo, here are links to the two sellers. One seller currently does not have anything listed and the other has a couple interesting pieces.

http://www.ebay.com/usr/carrington987?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

http://www.ebay.com/usr/adams-driftwood-sales?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2754

Wow, he has some nice pieces, but I think you got the best. Very nice.

[Woodduck]

Ok, here's the tank with the background. Not a great picture but gives you an idea.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7284/16931155281_c05d740bf4_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/rN9AAn)[/url][url=https://www.flickr.com/people/129594174@N08/] (https://flic.kr/p/rN9AAn)

That's awesome!!

[Second Hand Pat]

Thanks Bob. Now just get off my butt and finish the thing. :)
Pat

[zchauvin]

Pat do you have any updated pictures or another thread about this?

[ericNH]

i'm interested, too.

[Second Hand Pat]

Pat do you have any updated pictures or another thread about this?


i'm interested, too.

Still empty guys sitting in the living room. Need to finish the returns.
Pat

[zchauvin]

What do you plan to house in this one?

[Second Hand Pat]

What do you plan to house in this one?

My Tefe group Zach.

[zchauvin]

My Tefe group Zach.

Oh ok, and I'm assuming you will move the Angels to their current tank? I saw a mention that they were almost outgrowing the 75.

[Second Hand Pat]

Oh ok, and I'm assuming you will move the Angels to their current tank? I saw a mention that they were almost outgrowing the 75.

Have a separate tank for those guys.