Apistogramma Elizabethae Pair

[Second Hand Pat]

I got this pair from Mark and have had them about a week. They are starting to color up a bit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVl2S_ZMWg

[Pardal]

Love the finnage on the caudal fin of the male and yet colors coming good.
I am waiting for some cacautoides right now a more current dwarf but I like it
anyway.

Julian

[Second Hand Pat]

Love the finnage on the caudal fin of the male and yet colors coming good.
I am waiting for some cacautoides right now a more current dwarf but I like it
anyway.

Julian

Where are you getting them from Julian? and pictures when you get them.:D
Pat

[rickztahone]

Love the finnage on the caudal fin of the male and yet colors coming good.
I am waiting for some cacautoides right now a more current dwarf but I like it
anyway.

Julian

I agree with Julian. That color on the fins is outstanding. TFS

[Ryan]

By this time next year, Pat will have racks and racks of 20 longs set up to breed Apistos. ;)

In all seriousness they look great, and though small, dwarf cichlids are lots of fun. They still have big cichlid attitudes and you can fit way more of them into a small space. And on the plus side they can mix with discus in most cases, so you'll always have room for grow-outs. :thumbsup:

[Second Hand Pat]

By this time next year, Pat will have racks and racks of 20 longs set up to breed Apistos. ;)

In all seriousness they look great, and though small, dwarf cichlids are lots of fun. They still have big cichlid attitudes and you can fit way more of them into a small space. And on the plus side they can mix with discus in most cases, so you'll always have room for grow-outs. :thumbsup:

Thanks Ryan, I will actually only do a couple tanks due to limited outlets but the growout with the discus sounds promising. :)
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

I agree with Julian. That color on the fins is outstanding. TFS

Thanks Ricardo and getting better.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/607/21260188176_f73908ca0a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yoG2fy)[/url] [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129594174@N08/] (https://flic.kr/p/yoG2fy)

[rickztahone]

Very nice shot!

[Second Hand Pat]

Very nice shot!

Thanks Ricardo, fish training :p

[rickztahone]

Thanks Ricardo, fish training :p

sad to say I haven't yet shot with an off camera flash yet with this group. I guess I've been scared to freak them out, lol. That has never been the case with any of my past discus, but raising these guys from so young kind of changes the way I deal with them.

[Second Hand Pat]

sad to say I haven't yet shot with an off camera flash yet with this group. I guess I've been scared to freak them out, lol. That has never been the case with any of my past discus, but raising these guys from so young kind of changes the way I deal with them.

Start them young Ricardo :D
Pat

[Discus-n00b]

Love that shot and fish! I seriously need to get some dwarves....

[rickztahone]

Love that shot and fish! I seriously need to get some dwarves....

7 of them? :laugh:

[Second Hand Pat]

Love that shot and fish! I seriously need to get some dwarves....

Definitely Matt, what's not to like, small tanks. couple WCz a week, big tube, awesome parental care. :)
Pat

[CrazyAngels]

Thanks Ricardo and getting better.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/607/21260188176_f73908ca0a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yoG2fy)[/url] [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129594174@N08/] (https://flic.kr/p/yoG2fy)


Wow Pat I'm so exited for you with your new acquisition. Truly a beauty of a pair and your photography skills just brings out the best.

Congrats..

[Second Hand Pat]

Wow Pat I'm so exited for you with your new acquisition. Truly a beauty of a pair and your photography skills just brings out the best.

Congrats..

I am excited about them too Jorge. I am lucky as these guys display at the front of the tank giving me a change to get good shots.
Pat

[CrazyAngels]

Hi there Pat, been a few days, was out busy on another launch. so finally got a few minutes to check in. How the Apistos doing. I'm so exited about them doing well for you..

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi Jorge, this particular pair is not showing any signs of breeding at this point. From what I can tell this female should also develop a yellow cast to her body.
Pat

[CrazyAngels]

Well, for sure under your care they'll come around..;)

[richgrenfell]

How's things going with this pair pat? Any action?

[Second Hand Pat]

I lost the male Rich, no clue why. I bought the rest that Mark had so some currently have two males and four females. One of the females seems to be coming into spawning color and is very protective of one of the caves so hopeful.
Pat

[richgrenfell]

It's good that you were able to get some more! Too bad about the original male, but sometimes these things happen with no explaination. I have some njisseni fry that should be ready in a few weeks!

[Second Hand Pat]

It's good that you were able to get some more! Too bad about the original male, but sometimes these things happen with no explaination. I have some njisseni fry that should be ready in a few weeks!

Rich, you have pictures?
Pat

[fishguy456]

Thanks Ricardo and getting better.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/607/21260188176_f73908ca0a_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yoG2fy)[/url] [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129594174@N08/] (https://flic.kr/p/yoG2fy)

Holy s**t need need need. Did I say I need a pair?

[Second Hand Pat]

Holy s**t need need need. Did I say I need a pair?

This is the male I lost but hoping the other two males will amount to something as they mature.
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

This young male is coloring up nicely :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz77RkMB6vs

[rickztahone]

This is the male I lost but hoping the other two males will amount to something as they mature.
Pat

How'd you lose him Pat?

[Second Hand Pat]

How'd you lose him Pat?

No clue Ricardo, he was fine, eating and flirting early evening and dead at lights out. :(

[rickztahone]

No clue Ricardo, he was fine, eating and flirting early evening and dead at lights out. :(

weird. All others are fine though?

[Second Hand Pat]

weird. All others are fine though?

Weird yes and all others are fine. :(

[Second Hand Pat]

I know a couple things need to change in this tank. This is the group of five A. Elizabethae; two males and three females. The fourth female is from the original pair. Also in this tank is three of my F1 A. Agassizii The fish are in a 50 gallon tank. Need to remove the three F1s and the lowest ranking male and female A. Elizabethae. I do believe the female in the center cave is coming into spawn mode however.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwTkBtGCkH0

[rickztahone]

For a second at the beginning of the video I thought I saw a ram in there! They look very nice but that male is a right ol' bully!

[CrazyAngels]

Hi Pat that group looks awesome. Looks like you have some courtship going on already. :D

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi Pat that group looks awesome. Looks like you have some courtship going on already. :D

Believe so Jorge, the larger male is have his day in the sun as he is allowed in all three caves.
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

Finally got a spawn from these guys, about sixty eggs. :D:D
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

Here's the male. Love the face paint.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1644/23617656909_7cfb82c642.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/BZ1Ezc)[/url] (https://flic.kr/p/BZ1Ezc)
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5653/23902713281_327bce0737.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/CqcDUe) [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/129594174@N08/] (https://flic.kr/p/CqcDUe)

[rickztahone]

You get some really great captures Pat! Honestly I think I would struggle with getting a shot of these guys, the look like they move so quick!

[Second Hand Pat]

You get some really great captures Pat! Honestly I think I would struggle with getting a shot of these guys, the look like they move so quick!

Thanks Ricardo, it is all in the timing and yes, they can move quick. This spots were my first time using the back button focusing.
Pat

[CrazyAngels]

Pat, that little guy is so cool, you are right the face paint on him is sweet.;)

[Second Hand Pat]

Pat, that little guy is so cool, you are right the face paint on him is sweet.;)

Thanks Jorge, the females have face paint too just not a pretty but still cool. :D
Pat

[Second Hand Pat]

So yesterday I did not see the female go into the cave where the eggs were and thought perhaps she had eaten them. As the day progressed I noticed she was instead hanging in the front of another cave pretty consistently. Pretty sure the eggs hatched and she moved the fry to the other cave. There was a little pile of sand outside of the cave. I understand they like to leave the fry in little pits in the sand.
Pat