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LizStreithorst
05-18-2018, 08:21 AM
The chicks came in in early April from Cackle Hatchery. I bought the swing for 50 bucks from a couple of meth heads.

Second Hand Pat
05-18-2018, 09:44 AM
That is a super cute photo Liz :) What pretty hens.
Pat

kalawai
05-18-2018, 09:53 AM
Adorable hens...❤️

LizStreithorst
05-18-2018, 03:37 PM
It's amazing that all 19 of them arrived in a tiny little box on April 4th. I ordered 15 pullets and 3 roosters. They sent an extra pullet so I have 19 total. I also have 5 hens left from my order to a different hatchery last year. I love my last year'd hens but they are obviously not purebred. These are much better quality.

They give me so much joy I feel kind of silly. They come running to me full speed, on their silly little legs because they know that I will give them a treat. I've been accused of liking them more than my fish. I don't know that it's true. They for sure cause me less worry than my fish have caused me.

mmorris
05-19-2018, 08:34 AM
Do you have any trouble with the dogs getting after the chickens, Liz? I'd love to have chickens but both of my dogs have a high prey drive.

LizStreithorst
05-19-2018, 08:54 AM
Hi Martha. Here at home I am top ***** and my word is law. All my animals run free except for when I have to lock my horse up during hunting season when she eats the corn my neighbor puts out to attract deer. My only rule is that everyone get along. I had to whip my little poodle's behind 3 times, each time harder before she got the message that she was not allowed to terrorize the cat. Other than that I have had no problems. I do have to lock the chicken in their house at night because we have possums.

If you were to have chickens you would probably have to build a secure coop and only let the chickens run free if the dogs were locked up.

brewmaster15
05-22-2018, 10:49 AM
Liz thats a cool roost you got there. The girls look very happy. I added a bunch of easter eggers to my flock last week.
Al

LizStreithorst
05-22-2018, 03:15 PM
I'm into Purebreds with chickens for some reason.

brewmaster15
05-22-2018, 03:43 PM
I'm into Purebreds with chickens for some reason.

Im into their eggs.:)

LizStreithorst
07-04-2018, 11:50 AM
I have a fox. I haven't seen it but my neighbor who lost a rooster saw him last week. So far, in the last 3 weeks I have lost one of my old hens and one of my pullets.

It's way hard to trap a fox and I can't trap animal in a painful trap. I'm doing all I can do is that keep my 9 year old Basset/ Sharpei mix out during the heat of the day. He is the only dog I have left that will chase critters off.

RogueDiscus
07-04-2018, 01:25 PM
We have coyote in the neighborhood that shows up once in a while. We keep our cat in a night for that reason.

LizStreithorst
07-04-2018, 02:13 PM
I don't think that a coyote could take a cat unless the cat was old. Cat's are hunters more than prey

brewmaster15
07-05-2018, 11:31 AM
Liz,
I made a trap that we used for raccoons, woodchuck and fox. Its based off the hava heart traps but better imho and costs little to make... Even a Fox, can't resist Chicken as bait. The trap is nothing more than a 2X3 studs, mesh and a piece of plywood for a door. You hinge the door and use a door latch from a household lock. The door is held open by using its weight as tension on a trip wire.


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The trap design works for any animal provided you use the right bait and its the right size.

al

LizStreithorst
07-05-2018, 01:56 PM
Thanks so much, Al. With my back the way it is I'm not up to building anything. I'll have my neighbor look at it. Her husband can build it. He saw the fox down by a creak behind their house. Her chickens go down there, too. Although she has only lost one and I have lost two I have more chickens than she, and with hers visiting the creak every day I feel that they are in the greatest danger.

RogueDiscus
07-05-2018, 02:06 PM
Is it legal to hunt or trap foxes where you live? Although we're not hunters, my wife works for a local hunter's organization, so I tend to think of these things.

brewmaster15
07-05-2018, 02:38 PM
Is it legal to hunt or trap foxes where you live? Although we're not hunters, my wife works for a local hunter's organization, so I tend to think of these things.
In Ct They sell hava heart traps at the hardware stores. Its a catch 22 of sorts. You are not supposed to kill nuisance animals out of season and in season only with a liscence. Some states allow it in defense of livestock though. There is a specific fox season in CT..Theres an open season on coyotes and woodchucks have a very long season. The reason I say its a catch 22 is you really arent supposed to relocate animals in CT.. releasing animals from one area to another is a no-no. But Thats the whole point of havaheart type trap. Most people that use them are doing so to release them somewhere else. I knew a guy near me that used one all the time for skunks! al

LizStreithorst
07-05-2018, 04:24 PM
I honestly don't know. I think that it may be illegal to kill them but I don't thing it's illegal to trap them in a live trap. I will find out. I know who to ask.

LizStreithorst
07-05-2018, 04:42 PM
I know it's not good to catch and release a wild animal to a different place. Here they have their territory. If dump them somewhere else they are totally lost and alone in a strang place with other animals they are not familiar with. But what else can I do? I will find out what is legal and abide by the law. The only time I break a law is when I think that the rule it totally stupid.

Second Hand Pat
07-05-2018, 04:42 PM
Liz, I did a little reading on relocation of nuisance animals and sounds like relocation generally results of the death of the animal or at least in Fla that seemed truth. Perhaps the better solution is to reinforce the chicken coops.
Pat

LizStreithorst
07-05-2018, 04:52 PM
Pat, my chickens are free range. All my animals are, even my horse. Everyone gets along and nobody kills anyone, That's my law with my domestic animals. They abide by my law.

I have only one dog who will chase critters off. He's the dog in my avatar. I call him Big Head. He's 10 years old but he took off like a bullet the other day after something I didn't see behind the chicken house. He likes being outside during the day and inside at night. He's in no way a killer but if he's a good runner-offer that will work well enough.

I can't loose chicken one after one until they are all bone. I'm the head ***** here. I make the rules.

Second Hand Pat
07-05-2018, 05:06 PM
Liz, your chickens are out at night?
Pat

LizStreithorst
07-05-2018, 05:14 PM
No. They go to their horse when the sun goes down and I lock them in for the night. We have possums. At sunrise I let them out to scratch around and eat what ever they find tasty.

brewmaster15
07-05-2018, 08:16 PM
Liz,
Check out here...

https://www.mdwfp.com/wildlife-hunting/nuisance-wildlife/ looks like you could get some info there..

Your state has regulations for nuisance wildlife..https://www.mdwfp.com/media/254284/rule-71-nuisance-regs-2014.pdf


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MISSISSIPPI COMMISSION ON WILDLIFE, FISHERIES, AND PARKS
MISSISSIPPI DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE, FISHERIES, AND PARKS
Title 40: Wildlife, Fisheries, and Parks
Part 2: Wildlife
Part 2, Chapter
7
: Nuisance Animals
RULE 7.1 GENERAL
REGULATION FOR THE TAKING OF NUISANCE ANIMALS.
A.
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1, as amended, classifies nutria, beaver, fox, skunks, coyotes
and wild hogs, as “nuisance” animals. Pursuant to the authority stated therein, the Commission
issues this regulat
ion for the taking of nuisance animals:
B. Nuisance animals may be hunted, trapped, taken, killed, chased, or pursued on private
lands.
1. Landowners and any leaseholders may hunt nuisance animals year
-
round at any
time of day or night with no weapo
n/caliber restrictions on property titled in their name or
otherwise owned, or leased by them.
2. Designated agents of the landowners
/ leaseholders
may hunt nuisance animals
year
-
round at any time of day or night with no weapon
/
caliber restrictions, p
rovided they have
written permission from the landowner or leaseholder in his or her possession, when hunting
nuisance animals. Permission letters must be signed and dated by the landowner or leaseholder,
shall include:
a. the contact information of th
e landowner or leaseholder;
b. the contact information of the permitted person; and
c. a specific a date of expiration.
3. Persons hunting nuisance animals during any open gun season on deer will be
required to wear, in full view, 500 square
inches of solid unbroken hunter orange, unless they are
hunting from a fully enclosed stand.
4. Nuisance animals may be hunted with the aid of electronic calls.
5. Any part of any nuisance animal that has been lawfully taken, may be sold year
-
round,
with the exception of wild hog meat, as set forth elsewhere in this rule. The only nuisance
animals that may be sold alive are coyotes and fox per 40 Miss. Admin. Code Pt. 2, Rule 8.1
(General Rules for Fox, Coyote and Rabbit Pens).
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C. On public lands, the governmental entity charged with the management of said lands
may
or may not
allow the taking of nuisance animals
subject to applicable laws, rules, or
regulations
.
It is the hunter’s responsibility to check with the entity managin
g the property before
hunting nuisance animals on those lands
.
E. Nuisance animals may not be hunted or pursued with dogs during the open spring turkey
season.
F. Live nuisance animals may not be possessed except:
1. Coyotes in permitted coyote enclosu
res;
2. Fox in permitted fox enclosures, or
3. Hogs for the purpose of slaughter in an enclosure no larger than 500 square feet
in size and constructed in a manner that prevents the escape of any wild hog.
G. For the purpose of this rule, “wild hog
s” are hereby defined as any feral hog, wild swine,
Russia
n boar, or any pig that is not a d
omesticated
pet or livestock,
or has a wild
-
looking
appearance or behavior.
1.
No person may transport on public roads or off of the property of record where
capt
ured or relocate within the state any live feral hog, wild swine
,
or Russian Boar
within the
State of Mississippi
without first obtaining
a Live Wild Hog Transportation Permit for each wild
hog being transported.
a. Permits may be obtained by contact
ing the
MDWFP’s
24 hour
Communications Dispatcher at (601) 432
-
2170.
b. A violation of this section is a Class
II
violation,
per each animal in
violation, and
punishable as provided in
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143 with a
fine of not less than
One Hundred
Dollars ($
100.00
) nor more than
Five
Hundred Dollars ($
500.00
)
or imprisonment
in the county jail for not less than six (6) months, or by both such fine and imprisonment
.
In
addition to the penalties provided therein, upon conviction, the violator shal
l forfeit all hunting,
trapping and fishing privileges for a period of one (1) year from the date of conviction.
c. Required information for a Live Wild Hog Transportation Permit:
i. Date and time of transportation
ii. Name and physical address of permitee
iii. Hunting License Number
iv. County
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v. Point of origin (Road or Highway No.)
vi. Number of live wild hogs being transported
vii.
Physical address of the final
destination
viii. Descriptio
n of the transporting vehicle and license plate number
ix. Driver’s license number of driver of the vehicle described above.
d. I
ndividuals, at the time of requesting such permit:
i. Does not
have a history of repeat hunting offenses; or
ii.
Has not had his or her hunting privileges revoked
.
e. A Live Wild Hog Transportation Permit shall be valid for twenty
-
four
(24) hours from the time it is issued
.
2. Wild hogs may not
be transported within the State of Mississippi and
released or
removed alive from any mobile device or vehicle, except that wild hogs may be released alive for
the purpose of slaughter into an enclosure no larger than 500 square feet in size and constructed in
a manner that prevents the escape of any wild hog
,
or to a
facility where the hog may be
immediately prepared for slaughter
.
3.
MISS. CODE ANN §49
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140(2)
states, n
o person may transport or relocate
within the state any live feral hog, wild swine or Russian Boar and release the hog into the wild.
Wild hogs ma
y not be caught or trapped and released into the wild at a location different from the
location where the wild hog was caught or trapped. A violation of this section
,
upon conviction,
is punishable as a Class I violation
.
M
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states,
a
ny person who has been
convicted of a Class I violation shall be fined not less than Two Thousand Dollars ($ 2,000.00)
nor more than Five Thousand Dollars ($ 5,000.00) and shall be imprisoned in the county jail for
five (5) days. The person shall also fo
rfeit all hunting, trapping and fishing privileges for a period
of not less than twelve (12) consecutive months from the date of conviction.
4.
Feed / bait may be used to take wild hogs.
Any food or food products
may be
used
year round for
the purpose o
f taking wild hogs with the following exceptions:
a. Grain or grain products may be used, if placed inside any legally designed
live capture
-
type trapping device for the sole purpose of trapping wild hogs.
b. From
the day after
the spring turkey season to the day prior to the opening
of deer archery season
, grain or grain products may be used, but
may only be provided from above
ground covered feeders or stationary spin cast feeders. Feeders may be placed in plain sight with
no d
istance restriction. Areas must be clear of all bait for 10 days prior to hunting game animals.
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5. Any live cage
-
type trap used to trap wild hogs must be tagged or labeled in plain
view (written in waterproof ink or stamped) with the owner or users name
, address, phone number
and/or trapper license ID#.
6. All live cage
-
type traps must be checked every 36 hours. All non
-
targeted wild
or domestic animals caught must be released immediately upon detection.
7. A wild hog live
-
cage
-
type trap is desc
ribed as a permanent or mobile
containment system made of any type material capable of confining the mobility of a wild hog
until otherwise removed. The trap must consist of a trap door, slide gate, or similar mechanism.
The
se traps must have at least 50
% of the
roof
open
to allow non
-
targeted deer, turkey, or bear
the
ability
to escape.
8. No meat or other part of a wild hog may be sold without having first been
inspected and approved by the US Department of Agriculture and/or the Mississippi Departme
nt
of Agriculture and Commerce pursuant to the laws, rules, and regulations of those entities
.
H. Licenses needed:
1. Persons trapping nuisance animals, other than wild hogs, must have a valid
Mississippi trapping license, unless otherwise exempt.
2.
Persons trapping wild hogs must possess a valid Lifetime, All Game, Sportsman,
or Trapping License, unless otherwise exempt.
3. Persons hunting nuisance animals must possess a valid Lifetime, All Game, or
Sportsman’s License, unless otherwise exempt.
4. Persons hunting nuisance animals with archery equipment and/or with primitive
weapons during archery or primitive weapons season must possess either a valid Lifetime
,
Sportsman License
,
or an All Game Hunting License and the Archery/Primitive Weapon Permit,
unless otherwise exempt.
I. Animal Control Permit
for Hogs:
1. Corn may be poured, piled, placed directly on the ground.
2. Hogs may be killed directly over the bait.
3. Permits may
be issued for a period up to 6
-
months and may be renewed.
4.
Any wild hog captured under an Animal Control Permit may not be transported
live.
5. No other species may be hunted or killed under this permit.
6.
Areas must be clear of all bait for 10 days pr
ior to hunting game animals.
History: Revised
July 2014
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Source:
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gunnerschh2
07-06-2018, 02:58 PM
At one time i had a federal endangered permit. I had pheasant,ducks,quail & ***. birds. The damage wild amimals had on them made me sick. I used gal. after welding & turkey wire. No one from the govt. cared. They just want to make laws & feel powerful. My last silkie was taken by a red tail hawk who i diden't blame. I had a vist from nys envioral off. & i had to tell him what a wood duck was that was out of color. I will protect my pets from man or beast. Now we have mange fox again. What next?