Busy day today :).

[Iminit]

Well I decided last Friday that I was going to give this bare bottom tank thing a try. Have a 45 empty so I filled it up move a filter out of my 125 added to the 45 and called Hans :). Bought 8 2 1/2 discus from him. Delivery today :). Sitting around with a cup of coffee this morn and I realized a 45 was only going to work short term. I’d need a bigger tank. But I’ve got time :). So I checked Craigslist than went to letgo. Found a nice acrylic 90 with stand and hood for $500. Fish were due at 10:30 it’s now 11:45. Let me ask a few questions about the tank. Well it comes with fish! Come on I don’t want your fish. Before I do anything let me see what else is available. Another acrylic 90 with an acrylic stand!!! And hood!! $150!!! Hello when can I pickup my tank :). 12:15 still no fish :(. Well I’m not waiting I jump into wife’s outback and off I go. Get on the highway yep the fish are at the door. Oh well $150 for a 90. Hunny just check the fish to see if their alive. YOU BOUGHT FISH!! And why did you take my truck? How the fish look. There good! Ok talk to you later. Later... I can’t believe you bought more discus!! Hunny can you give me a hand at the truck. I think she almost fainted when she saw the tank :). Busy day!!127967 and if it wants to go out dancing it’s got this funny hat127968and of course the new addition 127969127970127971127972 will try for some better pic tomorrow.

[danotaylor]

Nice one Tom...that's a funny scenario! Looking forward to seeing them settle in and become more photogenic for ya mate, but they look nice. Did ya get a pic of wifey's face when she came out to the truck? What strains did you get? :thumbsup:

[Iminit]

I got 2 of his new white leopard ,2 leopard,2 checkerboard and 2 German wonder. They came labeled 2 in a bag. But they all looked pink when they went into the tank. They are allready starting to color up. The checkerboard,German wonder and leopard are all showing correctly. But the white leopard I think will have to grow into its color. It’s looking the same colors as the checkerboard now.

[danotaylor]

Sweet mate. Watching their journey! :)

[Second Hand Pat]

No kidding Tom, you were busy. That is quite a funny first post. Glad everything worked out with the babies from Hans and looking forward to more pics of your new kids.
Pat

[Iminit]

Yes I like adding pics :). Here’s this morns. 127974127975127976. In the first pic I think the high red/white one and the low one on left are the white leopard. Below the high one and on the bottom right are the checkerboard. Under the checker is the leopard and the 2 with the stripes are the German wonder.

[jeep]

It seems you have firm control over your addiction :grin::grin:

[Iminit]

http://youtu.be/Guy0ZCFfU4A

[coralbandit]

Wicked good deal on the 90 !
I look forward to watching these guys grow with you .
I really like my German Wonders ..

[Iminit]

And it’s still holding water. Has a few scratches so I ordered the scratch remover. But all in all it’s a nice acrylic tank and stand.127982

[danotaylor]

Cool Tom. Did you get the 1, 2, 3 step scratch remover kit? I used one on a friend acrylic tank and it worked a treat on shallow scratched and scuffing just using elbow grease :thumbsup:

[brewmaster15]

Awesome story Tom! Brings back memories of my early addiction. I would suggest getting help before its too late but its probably untreatable at this point. :)

Oh and not only did I enjoy the read I picked up a new source for used stuff.. never heard of letgo... craigslist all the time..
But letgo... nope. Checked it out... not too shabby. Thanks.

AL

[bossanova]

Hilarious. And yes, I can relate! Congrats on the choices, I keep Hans leopards and checkerboards myself.

[peewee1]

Is the German Wonder and the Mosaic Turk the same fish? They seem similar to me.

[Iminit]

Yes Dan I ordered the 1,2,3 novus scratch remover. Watched the king of diy and got the sand paper and tried it on the stand. Now just waiting for the novus.
Yeah letgo is pretty good!
Couldn’t tell you peewee. Way to many names for the same fish.:rolleyes2:

[Iminit]

So these are the new discus! What do you all think. Should I start a new thread?127996127997 checkerboards 127998127999 these are the leopards. Looks like one red and one blue? Or maybe the light?128000128001 the white leopards and last the German wonders.128002128003 all are 2.5” big. I wanted small to grow out. I’m very happy but what do you folks thing :).128004

[Iminit]

And the tank now empty. Needs some works :).128005

[Vinni Smith]

That tank is a real beauty! $150??????? Wow!

Nice fish too. I love Hans' fish.

[Iminit]

Thanks Vinni! Yes I’m happy with it. It’s got some scratches but I bought a Removal kit so hopefully that works. But when full the scratches are barely noticeable. And the new guys are doing good! All eating fdbw now so all is good :). They’ve started swimming the whole tank and not all schooled up so they are getting comfortable. Been changing 30% daily but there is an ammonia showing. It’s at .25. Guess my old media wasn't enough.128037

[Adam G]

It seems you have firm control over your addiction :grin::grin:

I about spit my coffee all over my IPad when I read this. 😀

[Vinni Smith]

Thanks Vinni! Yes I’m happy with it. It’s got some scratches but I bought a Removal kit so hopefully that works. But when full the scratches are barely noticeable. And the new guys are doing good! All eating fdbw now so all is good :). They’ve started swimming the whole tank and not all schooled up so they are getting comfortable. Been changing 30% daily but there is an ammonia showing. It’s at .25. Guess my old media wasn't enough.128037

That looks like a pretty good filter you have there.

[Iminit]

That’s off eBay. It’s an odyssea 250. Cost about $15 delivered. This one moves 250gph. They also sell a 350 for about $17. That one is 3yrs old. So they last :).

[Iminit]

http://youtu.be/TqXFWEKsFq4 128082

[danotaylor]

Nice Tom, great to them going after the worms...nice active looking discus mate :thumbsup:

[Iminit]

Well I cleaned up the tank. Got most of the scratches out :).128117128118128119

[Iminit]

And the discus are still doing good!!128120128121128122

[danotaylor]

Good work Tom. I was pleasantly surprised the first time is used the ole 1,2,3 acrylic repair kit. Tank looks great. Fish look happy. Good one!

[Iminit]

128139 well these are Hans new white leopards. What does everyone think? Could they be something different??

[danotaylor]

It is very difficult to say Tom as most names are simply trade names given by the breeder. I don't really see anything that would distinctly identify them as white leopards. Hans site has no images to compare them too, and the other Google pics of Stendker white leopards really look nothing like them I'm sorry to say...white base with red dots, no pattern as on the one on the right in your pic at least
Yours are clearly in PB family of discus and not dissimilar to many of the PB strains that have a variety of different names, but since they're Stendker, they do look more like Stendker Red Pigeons than anything else they offer.
Maybe send some pics back to Hans and see if he can confirm. I have never purchased from him but going by what others have said here on SD I'm sure he will assist you.

[peewee1]

Snow Leopard.

[danotaylor]

This one of your seems more likely to be a white leopard...as it grows it looks like the red dots will spread out...
128146

[Iminit]

Well those 2 are checkerboard discus. Maybe they were mislabeled?

[danotaylor]

I'd say that's a strong possibility Tom...the one you posted with the white blotch pattern looks more like a checkerboard to me, and it's pattern should spread to cover it's whole body as it matures. The other looks closer to a Stendker fire red...if you ordered one of those...

[Iminit]

No the red one looked more like the other when I first got them. Thank you I think you are correct. I looked at his pic for 3” checkers and it does look like what I thought was the white leopards. :). Go figure :). Will see as they grow!

[danotaylor]

Good one Tom, watching along with you mate :thumbsup:

[coralbandit]

You got tank looking real good !
I am lost if the fish does not fit the label ! :p

[Iminit]

Don’t tell me discus Are’nt jealous!!128155

[peewee1]

Nice tanks! By God! Will you look at the size of that clock! Although that clock seems to have a nice discus shape. Hey, what time is it there on Lonk Island? What I do think would be relaxing is go pull up the easy chair, get yourself a cup of cawfee, watch the fish...and the time.

[Iminit]

Lol your only seeing the tanks. Here’s where I’m looking from128168 and it’s 2:35 :).128169

[Vinni Smith]

NICE digs Bro!

[danotaylor]

Looks great Tom...a great place to chill...the fish look great and plants in the larger tank look lush & healthy as well...that Long Island water is doin ya good service mate :thumbsup:

[peewee1]

I knew it! You got that big easy chair lined up so that you can watch the big clock in action. A nice bunker with little window, big clock, easy chair, nice tanks and fish. Only on Lonk Island is this all possible. Very nice, Tom.

[above design]

Now that's a man cave!! Just add some NFL football and some cold beers and thats the perfect set up!

-Mark

[peewee1]

Now that's a man cave!! Just add some NFL football and some cold beers and thats the perfect set up!

-Mark

Yes, sir! Beer, NFL (without Brady), some tacos from Taco Hell, and you have yourself a day to remember.

[above design]

Yes, sir! Beer, NFL (without Brady), some tacos from Taco Hell, and you have yourself a day to remember.

Almost Peewee. Not trying to get to far off topic here but..... pizza,wings, beer, this fish room and the Miami Dolphins. Bye bye Brady...

[Iminit]

Ok stop there! We all know it’s J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS. Please practice this for the upcoming season! Ok peewee you’ve got to understand Big Ben. It’s very important to a fish room. 128176 You’ll notice the thermometer on the left. This tells me the room temp and how hard my heaters need to work to warm the tanks. Next on the right is the all important humidity meter. This tells me how much water is evaporating and how much I will need to top off. Peewee I’m just shocked you don’t have this type of vital information in your fish room.

[peewee1]

Almost Peewee. Not trying to get to far off topic here but..... pizza,wings, beer, this fish room and the Miami Dolphins. Bye bye Brady...

Not too far off target. A Dolphin is a fish and as far as Brady goes....he's a bottom feeder. Further the thread began asking is something was a "White Leopard". As you well know the State of Florida has not one but three NFL teams. One being the Jaguars. Another in a state to the north of Florida has a team called the Panthers. With regard to leopard, I will offer this, Black panther, a big cat (of any species, but most commonly a jaguar or a leopard) whose coloration is entirely black. My question is, other than a sick discus, why has no one ever developed a Black Leopard discus? They could call it a Panter discus if they had a mind to.

[peewee1]

I do have a clock but I use it as a gauge. The clock is round so from time to time I snag a discus from the tank and proceed to plaster it onto said clock. What I am looking for is does the discus shape match that of the clock? If so then I know I have the much sot after discus shaped discus. While I would like to have both the temperature and the humidity feature I may not need it at all. When I deem it to hot or humid I trained the children how to operate the AC. I dispatch one of them to, as Jean Luc Picard would say, "Make it so."

[farebox]

Here's a White Leopard 5" discus I got from Hans on May 2020. https://youtu.be/Lp4tYqMoxCM

[danotaylor]

Vid is set to private Roland

[Iminit]

Yep I can’t view the video either. Looking forward to seeing it.

[Iminit]

Some new pics :).128225128226128227128228

[danotaylor]

Looking good Tom...so e vibrant colors popping :thumbsup:

[Vinni Smith]

Looking REAL good!

[Iminit]

Well I’ve had them for a month now. All seem to be growing with the German wonders being the slowest growers. Sorry just not liking the bare bottom tank. Reflections all over the place. Very hard to get pics. Already bought a bag of gravel :). So it will probably be planted. Plan to do some more to the tank this weekend. Some fish pics. 128279128280128281

[Iminit]

128282 this is an interesting fish. Seems it’s been hanging around to much. Being in NY it seems someone’s tag him right above his eye with an St. also noticing some other tags a little further on his back. Will have to watch him and keep him moving

[Vinni Smith]

Beautiful

[Iminit]

Pics :).128356128357

[Iminit]

http://youtu.be/qZkb6qcNgtI

[peewee1]

Looking good, Tom! But then again every day is a busy day on Lawn Guyland.

[danotaylor]

They are coming along nicely Tom!! Nice vibrant colors. Great example of the accelerated growth of the PB strains. Nice tank & fish :thumbsup:

[Vinni Smith]

Those are indeed some happy looking fish!

[Iminit]

Thanks all:). Daniel all but the German wonders are growing. And they do seem weaker than the others. One has stoped eating the other is still eating but on the bottom of the pecking order. It’s a shame I do like them. May put them in a 15 by themselves.

[Iminit]

Well did not have a good week this week. On Monday a lost a phase leg and the ground on my electric panel. Melted by the pole for some reason. It shut down some of my tanks (the new guys) and had my other tanks running on a phase leg no no street ground and only the panel ground. So instead of 110 I had a fluctuating 76-96 volts. So only some of the filters worked. Of course I was at work when this happened. Took about 3hrs for me to get home and plug the heater and air pump in on the new guys. So that tank is all skittish all week. Still have one not eating and now maybe 2 others joining him :(. So after I get the electric fixed I do water changes on all tanks. Tues I skip water changes and on wed I blow out my knee. Not a great week. Couldn’t miss 2 days so did change the water for the new guys but that was it. Also lights are messed up on their tank and find them at full bright at 4 am. So yes they’re still skittish. All other tanks are fine but the new guys.
Decided to move the one non eater to a 15g tank but as would be none of my aqueon heater are working correctly. Can’t get them to 84* and my brand new aqueon pro lights up but that’s it. I do hate heaters!!! Well it can only get better :). Well I hope!

[peewee1]

Too much stress for just on guy, Tom. But what about the clock? Did you save Baby Big Ben? Was all of the power out on Lawn Guyland? Or did did they pick on just you man cave?

[above design]

Well did not have a good week this week. On Monday a lost a phase leg and the ground on my electric panel. Melted by the pole for some reason. It shut down some of my tanks (the new guys) and had my other tanks running on a phase leg no no street ground and only the panel ground. So instead of 110 I had a fluctuating 76-96 volts. So only some of the filters worked. Of course I was at work when this happened. Took about 3hrs for me to get home and plug the heater and air pump in on the new guys. So that tank is all skittish all week. Still have one not eating and now maybe 2 others joining him :(. So after I get the electric fixed I do water changes on all tanks. Tues I skip water changes and on wed I blow out my knee. Not a great week. Couldn’t miss 2 days so did change the water for the new guys but that was it. Also lights are messed up on their tank and find them at full bright at 4 am. So yes they’re still skittish. All other tanks are fine but the new guys.
Decided to move the one non eater to a 15g tank but as would be none of my aqueon heater are working correctly. Can’t get them to 84* and my brand new aqueon pro lights up but that’s it. I do hate heaters!!! Well it can only get better :). Well I hope!

And your JETS just traded their best player..... that is a tough week!

Mark

[Iminit]

No no it’s the jets and that the best move they’ve made in years!! 2 first round picks for a player that did t want to be here. Yes good move and good bye. Good luck Seattle.

[peewee1]

No no it’s the jets and that the best move they’ve made in years!! 2 first round picks for a player that did t want to be here. Yes good move and good bye. Good luck Seattle.

The people in Seattle are already buying Super Bowl tickets, Tom. They are of the opinion that they got Hey-zeus Cryst himself for 2 first picks. Too bad that the Jets could have some how thrown in your super clock so that all in attendance at Century Link Field would know what the local time was.

[Iminit]

Peewee you crack me up!! Big Ben survived the power outage (batteries). Yes the outage was localized to my house :(.

[peewee1]

Peewee you crack me up!! Big Ben survived the power outage (batteries). Yes the outage was localized to my house :(.

Tom may one day you achieve a discus to rival that of your clock in size.

[Iminit]

Still skittish in the new tank. Didn’t have this problem with my first group in the planted tank. No signs of anything wrong just not eating. 3 now. Tanks a 45g with 8 3-4” discus. 75% daily water changes. Raised the temp to 86. All 3 swim to food than stop and swim away. Qt tank is ready and I will remove the first non eater today. Will also move the driftwood around and see if that works. The 5 eaters are still doing great. Had a non eater the first time around but it only lasted around 2 weeks. But it never grew to the size of the others. Water is all good. Water quality is perfect on all tests.

[Iminit]

Here’s a pic of the non eater. 128471.

[peewee1]

Water change, temperature increase, plus a variety of food and consider soaking in liquid garlic. I have created a blend of 5 foods. Some of it floats and some of it sinks. TetraColor, Bug Bites, freeze dry beef hart (or as daughter Ellie Mae calls it "bee farts", plus Al's freeze dry black worms, one other. Plus, as you do anyway some frozen blood worms and brine shrimp. I've that some fish like to peck around on the bottom or floating food even hours later. From my fishing days I noticed that at times the fish will "bite" all at the same time and then you sit for hours waiting for them to "bite" again. The fish don't communicate this to one another but for some reason they all decide to eat at the same time. Could be change of lighting, slight water temperature change, moon/tidal change, variation in water flow...who knows. Seachem Entice food enhancer provides Scent and flavor for your finicky fish friends.

[Vinni Smith]

Not recommending this as I am not a pro fish keeper like most of you are.
Last time this happened here I raised the temp to 91 degrees as per the advise online from Mac's Discus and Willie.

VOILA Problem solved.

I purchased one of these heaters. I love this thing. Just a couple clicks and the heat is right were you want it.
Worth the extra $$$ IMO


https://www.amazon.com/Heating-Aquarium-Controller-Submersible-Freshwater/dp/B07ZWX5QMN/ref=pd_lpo_199_img_2/144-2887061-7198500?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07ZWX5QMN&pd_rd_r=b895a6c4-7614-4370-9f21-53b7d7cb4aff&pd_rd_w=uqmvT&pd_rd_wg=kGM4c&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=PM50HYXGBJQER2HAXDT9&psc=1&refRID=PM50HYXGBJQER2HAXDT9

[peewee1]

Not recommending this as I am not a pro fish keeper like most of you are.
Last time this happened here I raised the temp to 91 degrees as per the advise online from Mac's Discus and Willie.

VOILA Problem solved.

Steve and Willie both savvy guys.

[Iminit]

Peewee I have been mixing up the food even using one with garlic in it. But still nothing. Some of the others are now eating the flakes so that’s a win. But no change on him. Will move him later today. I have a 15g running with the water from the 45 so he should be fine in there. Going out today tofind some Cory’s to add to the tank and to qt for the bigger tank.
Vinnie will be raising the temp in there as it goes. Yes that Hagar looks like a great heater. I have been using the finnex type that is similar in my 2 big tanks and just ordered one for the 15. Seems to me that 800w is a lot for a 120 tank.

[Vinni Smith]

Vinnie will be raising the temp in there as it goes. Yes that Hagar looks like a great heater. I have been using the finnex type that is similar in my 2 big tanks and just ordered one for the 15. Seems to me that 800w is a lot for a 120 tank.

I have 112 gallons and the 500 is working wonderfully.
It also has a sensor on it so when I do a WC it automatically shuts off and then back on.
Also a protection feature that won't let the heater cook your fish.
I really like this thing.
Gonna get another one for the discus tank out in the shop soon.
That one is still in progress.

[Iminit]

So cleaned up and fill up the new tank.128505128506 was going to shim the left side a 1/4 but it doesn’t look bad as is. While measuring the shim I realized the tank is only 15”deep so it’s. A 75 not a 90.
Stand is also acrylic with a solid acrylic base. Was going to shim but not sure how it would work with that base so I didn’t do it.

[Vinni Smith]

Do you mean shim it to make the water line level?

If so, I would shim under the stand. Not directly under the tank.

You probably already know that...

[peewee1]

Do you mean shim it to make the water line level?

If so, I would shim under the stand. Not directly under the tank.

You probably already know that...

Easy to shim. I raised an entire floor of a house with a shim. A small wooden wedge. The floor was about 1/8th inch gap between the baseboard and the floor. I went under the house, into the crawl space. found the post that was supporting the beam that that part of the floor rested on, put the wedge post, then whacked it with a claw hammer. Viola! No more gap. Took me about ein minuten. Which is German for uno momento...in case you did not know.

[Iminit]

Yeah Vinnie the tank is a 1/4” low to the left. I did level it with some shims under the stand. But the stand has a solid piece of acrylic on the floor. So I’m was just shimming the edges not the whole peice so I didn’t do it. Here’s some pis128524 this was the shim on the outside next is the inside it’s clear acrylic.128525128526
Peewee it’s in my basement on a concrete slab

[Iminit]

And some fish pics. I moved the non eating wonder to a 15g with some Cory’s and it started eating within an hour. 128527128528128529

[peewee1]

I cannot tell by the photo. The stand sits on a concrete floor. It is a one piece stand, one without legs. But ti would seem that if you used a wege placed on the low side and then tapped the wedge until you got that 1/4 inch rise would that now work for you.

[peewee1]

And some fish pics. I moved the non eating wonder to a 15g with some Cory’s and it started eating within an hour. 128527128528128529

Great news. Was that one large hour timed out by baby Big Ben? That's one big hour if so.

[Iminit]

And some fish pics. I moved the non eating wonder to a 15g with some Cory’s and it started eating within an hour. 128527128528128529

[Vinni Smith]

Easy to shim. I raised an entire floor of a house with a shim. A small wooden wedge. The floor was about 1/8th inch gap between the baseboard and the floor. I went under the house, into the crawl space. found the post that was supporting the beam that that part of the floor rested on, put the wedge post, then whacked it with a claw hammer. Viola! No more gap. Took me about ein minuten. Which is German for uno momento...in case you did not know.

Peewee is always a big help.
Great ideas and quick to respond!
:bounce:

You should start a DIY TV show peewee.

[coralbandit]

And some fish pics. I moved the non eating wonder to a 15g with some Cory’s and it started eating within an hour. 128527128528128529
They say their are growth inhibiting hormones secreted by most growing fish which could cause a less dominant fish to fast or worse ?
I read that the PP treatment may actually remove said hormones ?
Fish look good man .

[peewee1]

I really like Tom's bare tank. Except for the buh-tuggly sponge filter the wood and the potted plants look great. I do have the branch in my bare tank but I shouild get a few potted plants. They are easy to move for cleaning and water changes. Nice tank, and fish, Tom.

[Vinni Smith]

They say their are growth inhibiting hormones secreted by most growing fish which could cause a less dominant fish to fast or worse ?
I read that the PP treatment may actually remove said hormones ?
Fish look good man .

We used PP in the koi pond years ago.
Just poured it in until I got the color I wanted.
A little nervous about doing that with the Discus though.
What would be the dosage treatment for a 112 gal aquarium with discus?

My fish store boss held that stuff in very high regard.
He is also the one that used to say fish give off the hormone and that is why you should change your water often.
It would be nice to get in touch with him again and pick his brain after all these years.

[coralbandit]

I mix 7 grams of PP powder into 100ml water .
That makes a solution that yields 1 drop equals 1ppm per per gallon .
Recommend dose is 2 ppm so 2 drops per gallon is the proper addition of the solution .
Always have H202[ hydrogen peroxide ] ready when using so you can deactivate quickly if necessary .
H202 is used at 1 ml per g to deactivate and clears the water nicely .

[Vinni Smith]

I mix 7 grams of PP powder into 100ml water .
That makes a solution that yields 1 drop equals 1ppm per per gallon .
Recommend dose is 2 ppm so 2 drops per gallon is the proper addition of the solution .
Always have H202[ hydrogen peroxide ] ready when using so you can deactivate quickly if necessary .
H202 is used at 1 ml per g to deactivate and clears the water nicely .

Any problem at all with your Bio filters?

[coralbandit]

There is always a chance of an ammonia spike .
One of my favorite articles has the bio being pulled for the treatment but I don't .
http://web.archive.org/web/20160315215925/http://www.jackmcneary.com/html/potassium_permanganate_.htm
Taken from ;
https://web.archive.org/web/20160313202506/http://skepticalaquarist.com/potassium-permanganate

[Iminit]

Update on discus and tanks. So I set up the 75 and added some fish. 10 phantom tetras 5 died in 3 days. Not sure of the others. 4 sterbai Cory’s and 3ottos. They’re doing good no loses.128618128619128620. The 7 in the 45 still seem to be growing with no problems. To that tank I added a pair of Julii Cory’s and a pair of SAE. Still changing 30g a night in this tank and feeding regularly.128621128622 last is the 15 with the small wonder. He’s doing well by himself and eating everything I add. There is now an SAE a Julii a 4 cardnail tetras. I started with 8 and in 24hrs was down to 4. But what’s left look good and have colored up.
Not to happy with the tetras. Lost 9 in 3-4days. All the other new fish are doing fine just the tetras. And all the fish were bought from different stores. Not many fish in any one store. 128623

[Iminit]

Well I moved the 2 wonders into the 75. So far all is good and both eating. Also added the cards.128653sorry night pic will get a day pic tomorrow

[Vinni Smith]

That really looks good.
I love that blue background.

[Iminit]

Well strange day today. Was water changing and all the cardinals died. Did the big discus tank first 50g than did the 75 30g and whatever happened all the cards died. Nothing else so go figure. But put all the rest of the discus in tonight. Alls looking good and they were eating :).128670128671128672

[Iminit]

All doing good! Seems like there growing.128947128948128949

[Iminit]

And so it goes! Got more discus! Got to learn to stop:D. From Kenny’s sept shipment129041 129042

[peewee1]

The link did not work. I was hoping to see your new Kenny fish.

[Iminit]

129043 not great pics. Will try for some better ones when I get home.
Couldn’t pm you your message thing is full.

[Iminit]

Some new pics129047129048129049129050

[famtsberg]

very nice fish

[Iminit]

A better pic of the blue tigers.129087

[Iminit]

A video of the tank. Check out corals rams!!:).
http://youtu.be/wDSHB6dNy0A

[Vinni Smith]

That is really a NICE tank of fish!

[danotaylor]

Looking good Tom. Nice long finned Ram's :thumbsup:

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So a video of the new guys. Seem to be doing much better :).
http://youtu.be/G3s_jPROXvg and something else I picked up:).129223129224. This is a 125.

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Well still keepin busy :). Almost ready to set up the 125. I cleaned and polished the tank. Took out a lot of scratches and it looks a lot better. Next I reinforced the stand and painted it. I believe the reason for the crazing is the original owner had the tank just being supported from the sides. No center support. 129501129502. So next I had to move the 75 to where the 125 is now sitting129503 son helped me lift the tank and we got t move and the 125 in place129504 so now just waiting for some input pieces and hopefully get it set up next weekend :).

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damn, looking good! Very nice of the tank reconditioning, looks almost brand new.

The last owner was crazy only doing side supports on a 125. Gives me chills just thinking about it.

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So I filled it up and added some wood and gravel. Waiting for a pump but have a magnum filtering it with some floss and charcoal. Got sot plastic containers from odd lot and fill them with gravel. Plan to put some plants in them and see how that works out. Put 25lbs of gravel in and it filled the bottom. Thought I would need about 60lbs.129561 thats last night and this is today.129562.

[Vinni Smith]

Looks really nice! You sure have a knack for finding good deals on acrylic tanks!!!

Just curious,
Does anyone ever use under gravel filters anymore?
I have always thought they are very effective if taken care of.
I guess they are obsolete now?

Vinni

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Yeah I’ll go with obsolete. They were on there way out when I was a kid. They were pretty much the culprit of old tank syndrome. All the muck that built up under them was a problem. To many better options now.

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Added some wood and some rummie noses.129574

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Well I got the wet/dry running today. Went with a dc pump (thanks coral) and this is new to me. Seems Toruń good. Lots of gurgling noises. Not from the pump just the water flowing. The overflow is very noisy. I added some matrix and bio-home I had from other tanks. Not sure what else to do. Time will tell :)129658

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So today I added the first 2discus. There both Hans. But one was the hero fish that I added to Kenny’s group. Both of these are the white leopards from Hans and neither really grew. Got them in July at 2 1/2” and measured today they are just 3 1/2”. Plan to let them sit for 2 days and than add 4 more. 2 from each tank.129699

[Vinni Smith]

Looks like you have some rummies in there too. I love rummies.

Those little guys should grow out nicely in that big tank!

That filter below with the DLS down flow should supply a lot of oxygen. Being in the koi hobby, we learned the importance of oxygen. It is every bit as important to making koi grow as is the food. We looked for every way to oxygenate our ponds. Down flow barrels with DLS like you have was a perfect way to do so.

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Yes I added 6 rummies about a week and a half ago. Lost one. No idea where it went? But yes they are nice. Plan on getting more. Like wet/dry systems so hoping to or the best.

[Vinni Smith]

The whole trick with that DLS material is NOT have it sit in water. Not even the bottom of it. Completely above the water line. If you don't the oxygen effect does not work nearly as good and you simply have an under the water filter like the rest. It also gets plugged easily that way.

It is a great product to use. But it is a nightmare to clean when that time comes.

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Thanks Vinnie! Luckily that’s the way it set up. Water is below the DLS. My sons buying me the heater for Christmas. So I will wait for that but I bought a hygger led light on Black Friday for $54. It’s programmable and 48” long with brackets that reach 60”. Just hooked it up and I’m impressed129712.

[Vinni Smith]

Thanks Vinnie! Luckily that’s the way it set up. Water is below the DLS. My sons buying me the heater for Christmas. So I will wait for that but I bought a hygger led light on Black Friday for $54. It’s programmable and 48” long with brackets that reach 60”. Just hooked it up and I’m impressed129712.

You are gonna love that heater. We have 3. One is outside on a fountain! Doing a great job with 800 Watts. As far as I am concerned, there is not another heater on the market. I am sure, sooner or later one will fail, but at this point I am nothing but happy with them.

I just love your setups bro. They are great looking tanks. Wish we lived closer so I could see them in person.

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Well I’ve moved all but the last 2 Kenny’s into the 125. All went well and there all out of hiding and begging for food :).
Very happy with the hygger led light!! It’s fully programmable with the controls on the light itself. No remote. Emptied the 75 so the finnex may join it. Have to see what it looks like. If all well in the morn the last 2 will go in.129743

[Vinni Smith]

Looks magnificent!

Did you get that heater yet?

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Ok all in and I think all’s well. Minus 1 of the ones that got shocked by the move. It’s still hiding. Looks good but shy. The other that had the pimples on it is fine and there all gone :).
http://youtu.be/bTL1toDOcXk

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Well it’s gone full circle. Sold the 75 today to the first buyer. Sold an hour after listing :).

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Tanks doing good all but one fish are doing great.130154 and feeding time.
http://youtu.be/LxDdhfKVWFw

[MarcusP]

Looks great I am glad you have had so much success. I may have to paint my 180 back ground a lighter color as well. Looks really nice and the tank looks bright.

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http://youtu.be/PThbcmBnGRY
Added the red tigers back from theyre failed breeding attempts. No breeding all egg eating! Now they’re trying to adjust the pecking order.

[Vinni Smith]

Bro,
That tank is beautiful ~!

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Well it’s been a busy 2 weeks!! Bought a new pair of discus locally and brought a cross contamination into both my tanks. Brought the new ones in and put them in a 30g in another room but somehow my fish still got sick. Main tank first than this tank.130982. On this tank I used rid-ich plus now for 12 days. Left the plant in and no problems there. No white poo just the blackish color with the slime coat showing. These guys mostly ate throughout the ordeal. My other tank I had a few days of non-eating. Both tank are looking much better now and will hopefully both go back to normal. This was yesterday130983. Got to say this was an eye opener!! Even with the new guys in another room I still managed to get it into both my tanks. I’ve brought in new discus a few times now without a problem so I though5 nothing of doing this now. I qt everything but even that didn’t help here. It’s scary what these fish can carry. Whatever it is it is a discus only disease. None of the dither fish were affected and it’s didn’t jump into my other tank. Just discus!! Makes you wonder! I’ve got a thread running in the disease spot. Looking for help!! If you’d like to see how it’s going and what I did. I did a different approach in each tank.

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All well in the tanks :). Evens got some new guys! Got these from Dennis discus and I’d been waiting since feb. 3 red raffleisa and a yellow Marlboro.131177131178131179131180. And the tank today 131181

[Vinni Smith]

Beautiful Bro.
Just beautiful ~!

[danotaylor]

Looking good Tom :thumbsup:

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Well my red raffleisa don’t seem to red :(. And because of feeding lots of red color enhancers my yellow now looks closest to a raffleisa! Im thinking this guys a panda131389 and no clue as to what these 2 are.131390131391 second may be a panda to but sometimes it’s all just a pale orange. And my yellow which I knew would turn orange and still looks closest to a raffleisa 131392. 131393. So what does it look like I got here? Any ideas?

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Oh and my store bought super red it starting to look a little red :). Though it’s partner looks very different. These 2 looked identical when I got them.131394131395. Because of the cc problem I had I took the runts out of both my tanks and added them to this pair to see if they’d cc. So far all is good :).

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Tanks doing great added 3 of the Dennis discus and a yellow bn pleco. 131877131878131879131880

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Well it’s been a year since I set up this tank. Some up and downs along the way but basically all’s been good. The cross contamination being the only set back. Seems like the cheap tank deals are gone!! Can’t find an acrylic tank for sale now under $1000. Amazing what covid has done to the prices of everything. But this tank is still running good. The craze in the front hasn’t changed. Thing I’m noticing is even though I’ve removed many of the scratches it seems like a haze has formed on the inside. Like the bio-film is growing in those tiny tiny scratches that are the end result of the novus treatment. I have heard that some people use a blow torch as a final step to melt the finish. But that’s much more than I’m ready for. Most people don’t even notice the haze. Just me :). Thinking 180 but the price of a new one went up $600 in the last year. People are asking more than new for their used ones!! So I’m waiting this out. Which is good. I’ve got close to 30 discus now in 3 tanks. This is an addictive hobby :). Here’s the tank now. Craze on left.132145 and the haze from a side view.132146
As for filtering the wet dry seems to be a much better filter than the fx6. I’ve cleaned the wet dry twice in the last year and the tank is crystal clear. While the fx6 tank with the same amount of fish gets cloudy in around 4 days. To this tank I’ve added another wet dry. But this one is only good for a 100g and is only moving around 400gph. Just seems like the fx6 isn’t moving as much water as it originally did. Yes I’ve cleaned it many times. Every 2 months. Including the impeller. Just seems like every other canister a let down. Also when I clean it it’s never as dirty as when it was new. I think it’s just has way to much media in it to really work right. I keep reading of people using 2 of them on there 75-125 g tanks. That to me is just telling us they ain’t working right.
But all in all everything is going good. Even the plants are all growing again.132147

[jpm995]

I like your style. It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. That tank's a bargain.