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Ardan
05-27-2002, 05:42 AM
Loss of Balance, Headstanding, lying on side on bottom

Usually loss of balance is caused by one of the following conditions.
A. * * *Water quality= *poor water conditions (ammonia, nitrite, foul water)
B. * * *Digestive system blockages = dry foods that swell up inside fish, *parasites (flagellates or worms)(“usually” bloating is visible)
C. * * *Swimbladder problem= bacterial, drop in temp, flagellates, tumor (Untergasser1989)
D. * * *Medication reaction
E. Blood Flagellates (Untergasser, Handbook Fish Diseases1989 by TFH Publications)

Treatment
A. * * *check water parameters, do large wc
B. * * *look for bloat, add Epsom salt 1 to 2 tablespoons/ 10 gallons, treat for internal parasites if Epsom salt does not relieve bloat
C. * * *sometimes a ph of 5.0 to 6.0 may help if it is infection
D. * * *salt at 1 to 2 tablespoons/10 gallons help ease stress and fight infection
E. * * *antibiotics may help
Source
Handbook of Fish Diseases by Dieter Untergasser, TFH Publications, Inc 1989
hth
Ardan :sunshine:

Ardan
06-04-2002, 04:24 PM
Headstanding supplement
http://home.earthlink.net/~grenier2/discus.htm
This link gives some common causes of Headstanding , including water quality, swimmbladder, intestinal, and bacterial. Treatments include sulfa drug, nifurpurinol, or Metro if a flagellate is the cause.
http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/Diseases/Locomotor%20Disorders.html
This article suggests a swimbladder problem, possible cause by a temp spike. Another cause may be bacterial of the opening to the swimbladder. Treatment with Quinine sulfate may help at 1 capsule /14 gal/ everday for 4 to 5 days.
http://www.dphnet.com/sub-article/cat-02/headstand.shtml
This article suggests causes may include bacteria or temp change. Treatment is to put them in a tank with shallow water at 82 F. and possible use of antibiotic. Plus salt at 1gm/gal. Keep the water clean.
http://www.bettadreams.com/diseases.html
This article suggests either a bacterial or viral infection of the swimbladder or an intestinal obstruction.
http://www.aquaworldnet.com/faq/disease-fw.html
This author suggests either an intestinal obstruction or bacterial infection. Treatment by antibiotics in food or water. Intestinal obstruction could be caused by swelling of peooet food in the fishes digestive tract.
http://pub5.ezboard.com/fhobbyfrm14.showMessage?topicID=28.topic
In this article Jim Quarles talks about possible causes of swimming disorders, including intestinal blockages, infections, or sudden changes in water temp. Treatment may include lowering the water level to just cover the fishes back, salt at 2 teaspoons/10gal, gentle aeration, 90 F, Epsom salt for intestinal blockage at 2 tsp/10gal. Antibiotics if it is bacterial, and clean water conditions.
http://www.netpets.com/fish/reference/freshref/swimbldr.html
This article deals with swim bladder disease caused by digestive system blockage, bacteria, or virus. Treatment with peas, aspiration of the swim bladder with a needle, or surgery. Prevention is stressed by soaking pellet type food before feeding. And good water quality.

The swim bladder is a sac like organ that controls buoyancy in fish. In some fish it also aids in respiration and possibly communication. Buoyancy is controlled by filling the sac with air and floating up in the water, or releasing the air in the sac and going down in the water. By equalizing the internal density of the fish with the density in the water surrounding the fish, the fish is able to stay at a certain depth.

Some fish vibrate the swim bladder to create sounds, thought to be used in courtship. The air in the sac also amplifies sound possibly aiding in hearing or feeling.

The sac is connected to the bloodstream by an oval muscle (sphincter). Air moves from the blood to the sac and vice versa by diffusion and the use of pressure. This muscle or the sac itself may become inflamed or infected, thus causing the fish to loose control of buoyancy, if it cannot close, the air in the swim bladder escapes and the fish sinks and may lie on the bottom. If the sphincter cannot open, the air in the swim bladder cannot escape, and the fish is at the surface of the aquarium facing head down (headstanding).

Internet Resources
http://www.lookd.com/fish/gasbladder.html
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/sci/A0847423.html
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question629.htm

hth
Ardan

ladyram
11-09-2003, 06:15 PM
Ardan: Thank you so much for your answer, I cannot find epsom salts!!! do you think that aquarium salts work?? I put my sich fish in a 29gallon QT, with just a quarter of it with water and raised the temp to 90°F with an airstone and without a filter since I will change water frequently.

I am not sure what will work better Maracyn or Furan2.....what do you think??

Now he is laying on his side, but his eyes look glazed, and is breathing heavily, the gills look a little reddish. but the poor little thing is fighting.

All parameters are good, I change the water 4 times a week, and the temp is always the same since I age my water.

Carol_Roberts
11-09-2003, 09:27 PM
If you live in the USA you can find epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) at your grocer store or a drug store. People use it to soak their feet. It works as a laxitive on fish.

I don't know about raising the temp if it is a bacterial infetion . . . . breathing heavily is not good. With only 7 gallons of water in the tank you must be vigilant testing for ammonia and doing water changes.