Kiwi, Kiwi, Kiwi!!!

[Chris.L]

Hey all you NZ discus lovers! Please don't be shy, post here where in NZ you are located, if you breed and where you get your quality discus from!

My names Chris, I live in Auckland New Zealand. I don't currently breed, but may look into it into the future, at the moment my main goal is to keep them alive! I have a 3ft tank (yeh I know ::), going to "upgrade" into either a 4ft or 5ft tank) with 2 Golden Pigeon Bloods, 1 Red Alenquer and 1 Red Turqoise. I know a local mini/hobbyist breeder around my way where I got the Red Alenquer and the Red Turqoise from, the other two I got from a LFS (before I even knew that we had breeders here).

That's me!

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Hey Chris,
What is the average price of a 3" Discus at the LFSs in the greater Auckland area?
Peter

[Chris.L]

Anywhere between $80 - $180 depending on the colour.

Come up to NZ after October :D

[Luca]

Hey Chris great to hear from you,
you are just the second person i've met in New Zealand who love discus!

Ok well i live in Hamilton at the moment and i am a student so funding is pretty low making the discus hobby just out of reach at the moment. My long term plan is to have a 3' quarantine/grow-out tank and a 4' planted display tank.

I recently bought a 4' aquarium second hand and i have it filled with various tetras at the moment. I'm glad i decided to hold off on the discus and do the reading because my tetras have developed a very strange (and seemingly rare) disease that shows up as black spots on their body and tail fins. I've lost the first lemon tetra after it being infected for about 3 weeks, i've tried plenty of medicines and my last hope is a medicine named "maracide" which i have been told will work, but ofcourse i can't find it in hamilton. have you heard of it in auckland chris?

anyway, once the disease is gone and my water parameters have stabilised (the ph is crashing and swinging), and my fish stay healthy for at least a couple of months, THEN i'll get discus!

What price did you pay for your red alenquer and the red turquoise? Were they juvenile or adult or in between?

I've been looking for ages to find a local breeder but they are somewhat limited!

Talk soon buddy,
Luca.

[Chris.L]

Hey Luca,

I payed $30 for the Red Turqoise and $35 for the Red Alenquer. The Red Alenquer is developing green dots on him/her, can't wait to see what he/she looks like when he/she gets older!

They are all between 3"-3.5".

I'll have a look around for "Maracide" and ring around and see what I can do :) Good to see i'm not the only New Zealander on here ;).

C'ya,
Chris

[Luca]

Cool, thanks for your help Chris,

yeah i'm originally from tauranga and there was a guy who advertised some discus there for $40 each, they were of similar size, probably smaller. However the male jumped out of the tank and the female died of a broken heart so that was the end of the breeding pair ;(

i saw some juveniles in auckland two weeks ago when i was there selling for $25 so i think you got a good deal on those 3" ones. Does that guy/girl breeder have more for sale?

[Chris.L]

Cool, thanks for your help Chris,

yeah i'm originally from tauranga and there was a guy who advertised some discus there for $40 each, they were of similar size, probably smaller. However the male jumped out of the tank and the female died of a broken heart so that was the end of the breeding pair ;(

i saw some juveniles in auckland two weeks ago when i was there selling for $25 so i think you got a good deal on those 3" ones. Does that guy/girl breeder have more for sale?


As far as im aware he does. Ill ring around today for the medicine thing :)

[Luca]

hey chris, i'm curious did this guy have heaps of discus and several breeding pairs? what size tanks did he have? were they barebottom or planted? did he give you any advice when you bought them?

[Chris.L]

hey chris, i'm curious did this guy have heaps of discus and several breeding pairs? what size tanks did he have? were they barebottom or planted? did he give you any advice when you bought them?


He had quite a few red turquise (3"+) and 2 Red Alenquers (3"+). He has about 6-7 breeding pairs. He does have smaller ones for sale. He keeps them all in barebottom tanks outside in a shed, except for a 5ft tank inside that he uses to get pairs, and he has various sizes of tanks in the shed.

Yes, he did give us tips etc.

[BlueTurquoise]

Hi there all NZ discus nuts!

Just wanted to say hello and see what's going on in the discus scene over there. I love your country (despite giving you kiwis a hard time after a drink or two) and i plan to retire there with 300+ discus ;D (wishful thinking, i hope not!)

Where are the major discus suppliers in NZ? when I was over there I was hoping to see at least one aqaurium but did not get a chance...

Cheers!

[Luca]

Sounds like he is well setup, do you have his email address?

Hi Chong_Ly, sorry about the wallabies (huge) loss by the all blacks last weekend (lol sorry had to say it)

so the aussie aussie aussie post looks very popular, there must be tonnes of breeders over there? what are your water conditions like (when they come out of the tap) or what do you keep them at?

a pet shop in auckland called "jansens" has an impressive array of discus as does "hollywood fish farm" so they are worth checking out when you are next over :) Our smaller cities have some but they're more the standard runty type LFS ones as you would expect.

i've only been in sydney for 2 hours but it seems nice and sunny over there. in the city i am in at the moment (hamilton) we have a pub called the "outback" which is based on the australian outback, bit of a laugh.

well ciao till next time,
Luca.

[BlueTurquoise]

Hi Luca,

We have one of the best water conditions out of the tap here in Sydney. PH7, 2-3 degrees of hardness, kh is 1 to 2 degrees. The best part is that it never fluctuates. Many people I know do straight tap water changes and do very well. How about over there?

There are lots of breeders and specialists here. Next time your over I'll show you around.

As for the Wallabies, EVERYONE knew they were going to lose, by George... ( ;D )

Cheers!

[Luca]

That sounds pretty much perfect, especially the ph nice and neutral, constant.

NZ parameters (at least where i am) = ph7.8, dh0, kh 2

so our kh is the same, ph almost, hardness almost, do you find your ph crashes, it is on the soft side. Mine is very very soft and so i've got a big of a problem with it, I need to add some limestone or something.

Chris - any luck with finding that med(maracide) in auckland? Would that breeder sell his discus younger, for less do you know?

[BlueTurquoise]

Hi,

It's because most of your water is from melted ice! It is very soft water. You can buy water hardenner products from the aquarium and yes we do get PH crashes.

it is not always ph7 out of the tap for us, after airation it is 7. After a day in the tank or after large feedings it does start to call to PH6.5 ish. But i's ok since I do 40% change everyday.

Cheers!

[Luca]

Why do you think it is that it does this after being in the tank? Wouldn't it reduce in a storage container with airation? Is this just a natural occurence with soft waters?

[BlueTurquoise]

Oh, PH reduces due to the nitrification process. It naturally lowers PH. Other factors include Algae growth etc. Since our waters are so soft it is very easy to reduce PH becuase there is hardly any buffering capacity.

After 2-3 days without water change and heavy feedings it *can* crash to PH6 etc but it hardly happens.

[Luca]

mmm very interesting, i'd say we got that "melted ice" stuff here too. Infact on the news the other day they mentioned a huge "lake" was found underneath part of the sea (surprisingly) and some land at the top of the south island - amazing!

I thought nitrites were pretty much not found in a cycled tank? Ammonia is absorbed almost instantaneously from a healthy well-balanced system so that wouldn't give the nitrite a chance to form would it??

[BlueTurquoise]

No no not from nitrates being present but from the whole process of turning Ammonia into a safe product. This makes the water acidic...

[Chris.L]

Chong, where are you located? Im coming to Oz (sigh :P) in September!

[BlueTurquoise]

I am in Strathfield (middle of Syd!)

Give me a buzz when you in town. PM me...

[Chris.L]

Im coming to Sydney for a week I think ;)

[Luca]

Hey chris, don't be a traitor! lol

hey any luck with that finding that maracide med?
thanks,
Luca.

PS, do u know if that breeder sells the baby discus (smaller than 3") but cheaper??

[Chris.L]

Hey chris, don't be a traitor! lol

hey any luck with that finding that maracide med?
thanks,
Luca.

PS, do u know if that breeder sells the baby discus (smaller than 3") but cheaper??



Sorry, I have been VERY busy with school. Been given a crap load of assignments >:( and I haven't even visited a pet shop in the last 2 weeks. I will find out tomorrow though :-[

Chris-

[Smokey]

Howdy ya al'

Canada calling.

since the map of australia was too small to include you beautiful people ... I would like to place a map for "New Zealander's " only. ok ?

To keep this map alive and healthy - it needs to be feed "PINS".
So who would like to be number " 1" ?

Please respond by either posting or send me a e-mail[confidentual] AND do let me know where "YOUR " pin should be placed.

Let New Zealand FLOURISH /////////////!!!

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Smokey,
Can I stick a pin where I WANT to live in New Zealand?

BTW, I had to call NZ today (very long distance) on my cell phone to square up a bill that was not charged properly to my credit card. Anyway, I was put on hold...and heard Barry White's "Can't Get Enough of Your Love Baby". It was surreal.

[Smokey]

Peter - good question ?

" JUST " where would you like to be ? ;D

And - I would think the other 'inhabitants' should have to vote - just to be fair.

What do other Kiwi's think ? Should Peter be allowed to call New Zealand his " DREAM HOME" [?? ?? ?? ].

Smokey

[Smokey]

Howdy ya'l. Your have your first "pin".


Congradulations Luca.

Smokey

[Luca]

Yeah ! thanks smokey,

He's not too rough 'round the edges lookin' so yeah i say Odwyer is welcome :) maybe he could have a different colour or something to indicate the "potential" city/town of residence?

:)

[Chris.L]

smokey - please put me on auckland :)

and yeh, let him put his pin on the map :-*

[Smokey]

New pin - Congradulations # 2. lol. Sounds like the S.S. Enterprise "CREW" !!! ;D ;D ;D .......

Do we hear - # 3 / # 4 / # 5; etc....

Smokey
Happy to live in the Canadian Rocky Mountains.

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Provided the majority grant me the priviledge of 'pinning my hopes on New Zealand', this is where I should like to live:

St. Arnaud in the Nelson Lakes area on the South Island:
http://www.nelsonnz.com/lakes/images/starnaud.jpg

http://www.nelsonnz.com/lakes/images/matakitakivalley.jpg


Of course it's a mildly alpine area so my wife would have a problem with that. She would prefer Marahau. Of course I've never seen Takaka and Tauranga either, and I am told I would fall in love with both of those places.

[Smokey]

ODwyer -- sounds good to me . Looks like a lovely place.

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Yeah,
I mean there!! Nice detailed map..where'd you get that one?

[Smokey]

If you go to - Map finder, then click on Maps.
Next - click on Find a Map; - goto Place a name - enter a destination .
Then Click - Find a map. A world globe will appear.
In the upper right hand corner is a ZOOM LEVEL; just click and zoom in.

Have fun

http://www.expedia.ca/daily/enc4105/home

BTW I live in the Crowsnest Pass .... Bellevue, Alberta.
where are the fires are raging.

Smokey

[Smokey]

OPPPPs for got the new updated map.

The map is moved to the bottom.

Do not want to use up too much megs.

Thanks hammhead for the directions.

And Spawn - welcome aboard.

Smokey

ps i got # 3 corrected. What can I say ... I'm from cattle county !!!

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Well, it's not quite that far South. Move the pin up north about 50 miles. Actually, you've placed the pin pretty close to Hamner Springs (hot springs in an Alpine environ) which is also very beautiful!

[spawn]

Come on Smokey.

Stick another Pin in Hamilton.

At the moment it looks like we need Peter just to make our South Island look habitable.

Still Peter apparently does not mind sheep, and if that's the case he wont get bored.

So let him head on over.

[Smokey]

K' . done. ... see the above map;

- relocated the sheep hearder, lol.

- spawn is the newest to admitt - he is from the islands .
Congradulations.

Howevery, to remain - it is best if we new something about ya, eh!


BTW - i won't tell ...

My Aussie discus are doing great. They are , now 15 months old! Their colours are very pronounced; their shapes are ... well, lets just say - as perfect as one can get.

My total support for ' MY BREEDER" and recomandation !

Unfortunately - the success has gone to his head - and others are beating down his door for discus. NOW - he spends his time on a "golf coarse"; and with his wife and chrildren. Is this any way for a breeder to act ??
NO - I say. Back to the fish room --- breed them thar fish.
Canada needs your discus ... please !!!

[ all in good humour].

Smokey

[Smokey]

howy , Hammerhead.
I would be happy to place a pin - for "u".

However - where the hell is this place??????
Can not find it on the map. please help1

Post me some directions; OK

Smokey

[spawn]

Hi all

If I tell you about myself I'll have to hunt you down and kill ya.

But here goes.

I have been interested in Discus for many years, but unfortunatly had to move away from keeping them a couple of years ago.

Im now back into Discus and of recent had 4 pairs of breeding discus, and a few other grow out tanks, but recently lost some :(, due to what may have been miss labled clear non toxic tubing. At the moment the tubing is being tested through the manufacturer.


So Im just a small hobbiest breeder at this stage specialising in Discus.

Now Ive told you about myself, it's time I went hunting ;).

[Smokey]

O.K. - the latest map is now available. deposit 25 cents to view.

spawn - thANKS FOR THE personal interview. good to see you back into discus.

[Luca]

Building a nice lil discus base here, 5 out of three million ain't bad :)

Spawn, thank god, someone else from Hamilton! And you have them breeding....Yessss!

Let me know how your progress is going and what kind of colours you have.
Cheers,
Luca.

[Smokey]

What, every body go to bed !!

http://envweb.env.gov.ab.ca/env/forests/fpd/wildfires/lostcreekphotos.html

Check out this link. It is information and some pics of the wild forest fire in my backyard.

One thought comes to mind ... with all the choppers filling water from the rivers and lakes .. wonder If any TROUT get a free ride.

A new meaning to smoked fish.

Smokey

[Smokey]

Luca - you were wondering about the size of tanks. A 20 g = 24 inches; 30g =30 "; 33g -=36 "; 55g = 18 x 36". etc.
Most of my breeder tanks are 85 Liter / ~20 g. ... 24" x 15" x 15".
The 15 inch width seems to keep the parents happy and still have a run of 24".

Just woundering ... Why do you/anybody build their own tanks ??
Cheap - easy -

I just cut up some 82" x 82" sheets of 6 mm glass. These will make me some very nice 100cm x 40 cm x 40cm = 160 liter grow outtanks. OR spawing tanks.

Think about it.
There is always a surplus of used glass, somewhere. Just have to look for it !

Tools - glass cutter, tape measure, straight edge, silicone.

And nerves !!!! hehehehe lol.

Actually, it is very easy and rewarding to build your own tanks.

And , this will allow you to customuze the tank for any particular purpose.

eg . for cory catfish - I built tanks 15 cm high x 24" long x 40 cm wide. Low water pressure on the eggs. Worked great.

Also great for the first weeks of discus/angel fry.

Smokey

[Luca]

Smokey, i would love to build my own tanks but have no idea where to find (cheap) glass.

Secondly, wouldn't you also need some kind of clamps to hold the tank in place whilst the silicone dries or do you just press it together??

Is a straight edge a tool that has a 90 degree angle in it?
|_ <<<---(shaped like that?)

talk soon,
Luca.

[Smokey]

Ahhhh- back up and operating. Had to get a new keyboard. ;D

Luca/ other members: Glass is often found where you find it. lol.
I often visit glass shops and let them know I am in the market for glass; window replacement units, etc.

5-6 mil. is the minimum thickness. to use.

I have written a number of articles about cutting glass, finishing and constructing tanks. It is quite simple and very rewarding.
Mind you, I have been building my own tanks for over a decade, now.

A carpenters framing square "L" is used to square the glass sides. Clamps are not necessary. It is all in how you lay the tank up.

Just for interest sakes, would some one find out what glass is worth - local glass shop price. Now, prices will vary - finished glass [edges polished][ as apposed to buying unfinished]... labour costs.

And what is the cost of a 20/33 gallon unit.

Smokey

[Chris.L]

Sorry I haven't posted here in a while :-[ Been a bit busy.

Hopefully in October when I get back from Australia (I leave in Sept), I will have a bigger tank (4ft-5ft) and some more discus :P If I still have some money left over which hopefully I will, I might buy a pair or something :D

Chris-

[FischAutoTechGarten]

A few impressions of NZ:

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day11/AwaroaatLowTide.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day11/SleepingFamily.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day10/TypicalStreetDininginNelson.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day4/GirlonHorseinVillageofCoromandel.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day7/LakeTaupoMountTaranaki.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day14/GlacierbyFar.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day14/RouringFalls.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day13/PancakeRocks.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day15/GoodFjord.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day16/HeatheronPeirinQueenstown.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day18/HeatheronBeachBoulders.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day19/PuntDriver.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day17/BaldwinStfromTop2.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day17/AlbatrossWingSpan.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day17/PenguininGrassafterReturningfromBeach.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day12/BeautifulMoteukaRiver.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day12/BeautifulStreamfeedingLakeRoituti.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/odwyerpw/images/Day8/RainbowTrout.jpg

[Chris.L]

did you take those photo's? yeh, NZ is a wonderful place ;) I wish you and all of you're family could move over here :D! Then maybe our discus quality might go up :P

Did you ever manage to come to Auckland?

Chris-

[ari_wh]

Nice photos Peter....

Well, my husband, Scott is actually a Kiwi... he is from North Island though, New Plymouth, to be exact. He was born there, although he spent most of his life in Australia.

We went for 8 days to the North Island last year, but did not make it to the South Island. We will hopefully go again... visiting South Island this time. We loved it there... I love Auckland too... I can certainly see myself living there one day. Not at the moment, as there are no mining there :(.

Regards, Ari :)

[FischAutoTechGarten]

I took all of those photos myself. My wife is in a few of them.

I spent the first 2 days in Auckland. Actually had a job interview in Te Atatu 2 hours after I got off the plane. Didn't get the job.

I never got to New Plymouth, Gisborn, 90mile Beach or Bay of Plenty on the North Island. I had wanted to, just no time to travel all of the great distances.

On the South Island, I missed the Alps, other than the mountains in Southland and Central Otega. It was below zero back home (upstate NY) at the time, so we had no interest in seeing colder regions when in NZ.

[Chris.L]

nice photo's :)! Will you guys be visiting NZ again :P?

Chris-

[Smokey]

Hmmmm here it is september 12/03. Where has everyone gone ??

Up here in the north country I am preparing for winter. We have already had the water hoses freeze solid.

I have installed a new pair of snow tires on the van and topped up the anti-freeze in the radiator.
The house furnance has been runing for 2 weeks, now !!!
The heaters are starting to work overtime in the discus tanks. Trying to maintain 87'F.

As a matter of fact, I am wearing my long-johns as I type this. Hmmm - now how is that for a visual mind picture !!! lol.

Smokey

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Folks, now is the time to purchase tickets to go to New Zealand. I am being mailed offers from Qantas and Air New Zealand every other day for round trips from LA to Auckland in the $499 and $599 range. Best part is you don't have to fly out until Nover 15th...the middle of New Zealand's Spring! Makes me want to go back already...but out of the question...even if it were free (have no vacation time left!).

[Smokey]

Peter; perhaps I can help you out.
Being the nice fellow I am , I will stand up and offer to go in your place.
I know this is a bit of sacrafice, one my part, but I am willing to do it.

To leave my semi-frozen mountain cabin, the bears, deer, and now the mountain sheep are running in the streets.

BUT - I feel the sacrafice is worth it. JUST FOR YOU BUDDY !!!

Smokey

[FischAutoTechGarten]

An analysis of levels of happiness in more than 65 countries by the World Values Survey shows Nigeria has the highest percentage of happy people followed by Mexico, Venezuela, El Salvador and Puerto Rico, while Russia, Armenia and Romania have the fewest.

“NEW ZEALAND ranked 15 for overall satisfaction, the U.S. 16th, Australia 20th and Britain 24th — though Australia beats the other three for day-to-day happiness,” New Scientist magazine, which published the results, said on Wednesday.

Point is...I'm very happy now, However, I'd probably be happier in New Zealand ;)

[Chris.L]

You would be happier here ;)!

[Smokey]

Happiness is a state of mind. Not a mind of state!

Smokey

[Luca]

Rock on the All Blacks!

Sorry to Canada posters here for your 68-6 loss against us, felt for ya.
I think England/Australia will give us a good run for our money, but i really just wanted to say: go the mighty All Blacks! you're doing us proud.

[Smokey]

Hmmm - Luca ......................... personall speaking I { a Canadain-- EXCUSE ME _ an ALBERTAN - AND very am very proud ;] - [ you beat the butt off the "blanched people" [aka english}. LOL.

I , personally speaking ; hope to hear much more from- ya.

Me - Smokey, is presentely under cosignment to Yippy.. IF and ONLY //// if Kerry feels "SHE" wants to throw "me" aside (for an-other) .. I am "YOURS"

Ahh a single male in the world of love.

Smokey

[Smokey]

Luca - I am just saying congradualations for the win.

Us Canadians, were never that great at soccer.

NOW hockey, we are good at that. lol..

Smokey

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Do the ALL BLACKS have a Win in them for this weekend?

[Luca]

Thanks for the congratulatory appraisal smokey.

O'Dwyer, i regret to inform you that it is not actually the prestigious All Blacks playing this weekend but rather our national seven's team. The seven's tournament is completely different (so my flatmate informed me yesterday) and apparently his pet-hate is people who think the sevens team is the all blacks but the rules between the two games are very similar. In sevens each game lasts only 15mins total (and 20 for the finals) whereas in rugby each game lasts 80minutes. That's the biggest difference, and also, none of the current All Black's are in the seven's squad. Hope that makes sense?

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Crystal clear. I mean they're BOTH called the All Blacks. Of course a Yankee should assume they're different teams. When I was a child, I lived a few blocks from the NotreDame & Loyola College campuses in Baltimore Maryland. Both schools had Rugby programs. Neighborhood kids and I used to sneak up and watch the practices. So much physical contact and no padding.

Luca,
1 year ago I was counting down the days to the near month I would spend in NZ. Wish I were doing it again this year. Next time I go I'm spending a week in Takaka.

My wife and I are trying to buy a B & B., summers are murder, winters are dead. So who knows, maybe we will Winter (you're Summer) in NZ each year. Can't talk her into moving there, but she seems keen to that idea.

[Luca]

I thought one was actually called the "New Zealand Sevens team" and the other was called the "All Blacks"? i'm not that much of a rugby buff so i don't really know to be honest!

that's cool you could watch some of the training, i've heard that american's can't believe we don't use padding etc such as they do in your equivalent sport: football. this makes rugby exciting to watch due to the possibility of big hits, injury, blood etc and it makes me glad to watch it on TV or at the field and not be one of the players amidst it all! i guess a lack of padding is good for the spectators but bad for the players. my view is that rugby players are rather crazy for this reason.

i like the B&B idea, you could have discus tanks set in the walls, ones you can see from both sides even! maybe i'm getting carried away? who would run the B&B while you're away though spending winter (your summer) in America?

goodluck convincing the wife anyway ;)

[FischAutoTechGarten]

No we'd come during your Summer which is our Winter (say Jan 15 through February 28th).
No one would run the B & B, we would just have a house sitter that feeds fish & cats and makes sure the automatic water changes take place and litter box is cleaned.

[Luca]

You mean to say that you have a completely automated water change system setup? I'd like to hear more about this... I know you can get a holding tank and pump the water in but how do you get rid of the old water and also how do you make sure it pumps just as much out as goes in?

[FischAutoTechGarten]

Overflows leading to your drains Luca. That's how you do it.

[Luca]

makes sense lol

[FischAutoTechGarten]

On this day last year I was in Te Anua! Bummer.

[BGK]

hey if there are any discus breeders in auckland
can u tell me plzz?
or add me to msn
crazy_POS@hotmail.com

[FischAutoTechGarten]

LAX to AKL (Los Angeles to Auckland) , Departure must be between Nov7-Nov30, Return must be completed before Dec14. $699

ALB to LAX (Albany to Los Angeles) same period. $188

New York to New Zealand...under $900 (excluding taxes).

Would I love 5 weeks in New Zealand!

[FischAutoTechGarten]

I might be heading to NZ in June! Just for a week. Business. Wintertime in MiddleEarth.

[Chris.L]

Phew!! First time visiting for a LONG time. I still have 3 adult discus, and two of them laid eggs about 4 weeks ago but have had nothing since.

How is everyone doing??

Chris.

[KIWI13]

Hello Chris,

Kiora bro, I am originally from NZ to , yes a JAFA like you and now I went off ont he big OE and havent yet returned. I am workin and livin in France. I here lots has chnaged in Auckland and I'll be back for christmas, Its awesome to meet a fellow kiwi...

Sincerely

Jas