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jczz1232
01-07-2008, 09:32 PM
Have anyone ever use this in their discus tanks?

John

fredox
01-07-2008, 09:43 PM
Never used it but I remembered a thread about it before. Have a look at http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=48122&highlight=pond+prime

jczz1232
01-07-2008, 10:39 PM
Byron thanks for link.

John

Wahter
01-15-2008, 06:17 PM
Here's the previous posting where Seachem said the two products are the same:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com//showthread.php?t=41840&page=2

Hope that helps,



Walter

troyclark
01-17-2008, 10:04 AM
Have used it for a few years and found it is the most economical way to go. Also, doesn't change PH. HTH

Tropical Haven
01-17-2008, 10:08 AM
I have used Pond Prime for the last 2 years and I love it. It is a higher concentration than regular Prime so you don't use as much.

jeep
01-17-2008, 10:29 AM
I have used Pond Prime for the last 2 years and I love it. It is a higher concentration than regular Prime so you don't use as much.

Did you read the links?

Pond prime is the exact same thing as Prime. Same stuff, same concentration, different application... :bandana:

Tropical Haven
01-17-2008, 12:19 PM
I am not sure where you get your information from but Pond Prime is a higher concentration.

Pond Prime = 2 tablespoons treats 600 to 700 gallons of water

Regular Prime = 1 capfull treats 50 gallons of water.

So it would take 12 to 14 capfull of regualr Prime to treat the same amount of water as the 2 Tablespoons of Pond Prime.

So yes pond prime is a higher concentration and you are right they are the same thing when it comes to treating your water.

Wahter
01-17-2008, 01:36 PM
I am not sure where you get your information from but Pond Prime is a higher concentration.

Pond Prime = 2 tablespoons treats 600 to 700 gallons of water

Regular Prime = 1 capfull treats 50 gallons of water.

So it would take 12 to 14 capfull of regualr Prime to treat the same amount of water as the 2 Tablespoons of Pond Prime.

So yes pond prime is a higher concentration and you are right they are the same thing when it comes to treating your water.

Scott, be sure to read my post which refers to a link to comment posted direct from Seachem - pond prime is NOT more concentrated, they merely change the recommended dosage relative to the surface area of the volume of water.

Here's the link again:
http://forum.simplydiscus.com//showthread.php?t=41840&page=2



Walter

Tropical Haven
01-17-2008, 01:37 PM
Sorry did not realize that, my apologies. :D

Wahter
01-17-2008, 02:13 PM
Sorry did not realize that, my apologies. :D

No problem - just make sure you're using the correct dosage. :)



Walter

saroberts
01-17-2008, 03:10 PM
To summarize:

- Seachem Pone Prime and Seachem Prime are the 'same'
- Treat your water based on Seachem Prime (5ml per 50 gal)

Does that cover it?

Steve

alpine
01-17-2008, 03:54 PM
I have always used Prime , buy it in the gallon size. I heard that the pond Prime is less expensive. Where can I find a listing for pond Prime ?
Thanks,
roberto.

jeep
01-17-2008, 09:59 PM
I can only find PP in 2L jugs. I'm not sure if this is more expensive than 1 gallon of prime. Here's a link to F&S

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=5384&Nty=1&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=All&pc=1&N=0&Ntt=pond%20prime&Np=1

On the other hand, I saw 2L of Prime the other day for around $26. Darned if I can remember where :confused:

alpine
01-17-2008, 10:14 PM
jeep, thank you. I though that the pond prime was a lot less expensive . I was wrong . at BigAlsOnline four liters are $52.16 for the regular Prime .

roberto.

troyclark
01-17-2008, 10:25 PM
Petsolutions.com has it for 29.99 for a 2 liter.

http://www.petsolutions.com/Prime+I10104360.aspx

jeep
01-17-2008, 10:32 PM
Has anyone tried this stuff?

http://www.bigalsonline.com/BigAlsUS/ctl3684/cp18577/si1381017/cl0/aquariumproductsgenesis1gallon

Graham
01-17-2008, 10:52 PM
I wouldn't get too excited about it as all it is ...is a basic dirt cheap de-chlor ...sodium thiosulfate...

http://www.aq-products.com/AP%20MSDS%20Sheets/GENESIS%20GEC%20Issue%201%20.pdf

G

alpine
01-18-2008, 12:07 AM
Graham, what do you use ?

roberto.

Graham
01-18-2008, 09:01 AM
Nothing.......... I'm on a well:)

alpine
01-18-2008, 12:05 PM
Good for you,that sure is saving you some good money !

roberto.

troyclark
01-18-2008, 12:35 PM
Jeep, how many gallons of tap water will the Genesis gallon jug treat ? I have chloromines instead of chlorine. Does it work on that as well ? Thanks

Graham
01-18-2008, 01:11 PM
Not Jeep but, Sodium thiosulfate will not bind up the ammonia in chloramines..............

Enough to last a very long time

http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/product.detail/iid/5688/cid/1598

troyclark
01-18-2008, 04:09 PM
I did a quick search online for it and some places say it handles chlorine and cholormines and some only mention chlorine. Which is for real ?? Thanks

Graham
01-18-2008, 05:29 PM
Actually even the AP web site is confusing...

One statement says....''....It also controls the ammonia released from chloramine during the de-chlorination process.....''' controls how??, as ST will not bind up ammonia. The only other ingredient in it is ACRIFLAVINE HYDROCHLORIDE and I don't believe that it's an ammonia binder

Then is says....''...Conditions water by neutralizing any chlorine in the solution....'' no mention of chloramines at all and that's usually a good marketing tool

Then it states ...''...Genesis helps condition aquarium water by neutralizing harmful chlorine and chloramine found in tap water....''

So which is it, you'd never know by reading thier info page. Personally I wouldn't use it for binding chloramines...leave that to products like Amquel and Prime

http://www.aq-products.com/APpropond/genesis.htm

troyclark
01-23-2008, 12:47 AM
Thanks Graham, I'll stick with my Prime.

Troy