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two utes
02-29-2008, 06:50 PM
With the three remaining discus in the challenge tank, things were not getting any better. Dark in colour, still off their food, and occasianlly thrashing aroung hitting the glass, things were not looking good.
Yesterday, l decided to dose the tank with salt at a rate of one table spoon per 10gl, and hope that things would settle down a bit.

I woke this morning to find 2 more discus dead, leaving one more in there on its lonesome. I feel that l have failed these fish......but still don't know where l went wrong. I think all l can do now is continue with the daily water change, and hope he pulls through.

Meanwhile, in the planted tank, the other 4 challenge fish are eating well, and looking good. Needless to say though, l have noticed very little growth.

brewmaster15
02-29-2008, 08:08 PM
Hi Joe,

This is pretty sad, I'm sorry to hear about this.:(

Somethings to think about...

You had a group of discus in tank that were fine...split the group...half to a planted tank..half stayed... The half that stayed have been having issues...the half in the planted tank are fine.

two things that comes to mind...
...something may be wrong with the water in the sick fishes tank... do you do a different water change regime between the bare grow out..and your planted tank...most do.... if so..I'd question my water supply...is this municipal water?

.... the med you dosed with..in your water parameters may have been toxic... I knew someone that could not use the medication ...fluke tabs in her water....she experienced multiple deaths on multiple occasions when she used it...I've never had an issue once....I can only attribute to water differences.

Sorry you lost them...on the off chance that the problem was due to something contagious...watch that planted tank closely.

hth,
al

two utes
02-29-2008, 08:40 PM
Thanks for your comments Al.
Yes it is municipal water supply.The water is comming out from the same tap for both tanks. The only differance is that l am aging the water in a container with airstones and heater, for the Challenge tank. Yet with the planted tank it is going in direct from the tap, but only doing about a 20% change ever other day or so.
Every thing was going so well too! This has sure knocked me down a few pegs.

brewmaster15
02-29-2008, 09:13 PM
Joe,
Check with your water supplier to see if they have been working on the lines in your area....when they do they need to flush the lines to remove any nasties....the chemicals used can kill your fish...

also ask if they switched to chloramines...aerating won't remove these...

Other things that they can do is treat a supply lake with algacides

The planted tank may have been spared by the smaller volume of water you change, the increased organic load, and the plants filtering action.

Just some thoughts..

-al

phidelt85
02-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Joe, this is terrible news; I'm sorry to hear you've had more deaths. Head up, though and keep a close eye on the remaining little one. Good luck buddy.

Darren's Discus
02-29-2008, 11:24 PM
Joe,
sorry to hear youl ost a couple more of your fish,as Al said this could be due to nasties being added to your water, I have had big trouble in the past with them working on pipes and changing water clorinators, Also sometimes when you have a group of fish going well and you remove some, They can feel al ittle in secure with less numbers, Mate keep your head up and move on it happens to the best , you certainly have not failed the fish !



cheers

two utes
03-01-2008, 12:08 AM
Thanks Jose. I'm going to need something?
Thanks Darren.:)

majik
03-01-2008, 01:20 AM
:(Joe mate im really sorry things have gone from bad to worse I have to echo what the others have said you still have mouths to feed.

two utes
03-01-2008, 01:25 AM
Thanks Tanya.:)

Kindredspirit
03-01-2008, 01:56 AM
Oh My! Joe, hang in there, babe ~ I am so sorrry for all this!:(

BSW
03-01-2008, 07:07 AM
Oh Joe,
I'm terribly sorry for the bad news, it is so odd that one batch would do fine and the other have trouble ? Something to say for plants though, they may have been soaking up what ever could of been in the water. I know our water supply changes where I live. there is lots of snow here and our summer water supply is different from our winter water supply. Are you planning on moving the one remaining little guy to the planted tank ?
B

two utes
03-01-2008, 04:29 PM
Thanks Marie.:)
Thanks B. Yes, eventially l will transfer him into the planted tank, but will wait till he comes good, just incase he has some kind of disease.
The last thing l want now is to contaminate the planted tank.
Eventually, l wish to, start a new cycle in the Challenge tank, and transfer four challenge fish back in there, and feed, feed, feed.
By then l'll have some catching up to do.;)

Diskboy12
03-01-2008, 10:52 PM
Sorry to here about the fish, it kinda reminds me of when I got my first discus. I lost them all for no aparent reason at all.

-Kevin

alxjss
03-02-2008, 08:04 AM
Oh Joe, thats a shame:( Its too bad, but like u said u have 4 in the planted tank. Maybe one of them will be the biggest:o

GrillMaster
03-03-2008, 04:22 PM
I am sorry to hear of this bad news Joe! I cant say much more than what has been said already as far as a culprit. I know that you were having fun with them.

Is there anything that could of got on your hands and maybe not washed off good before you put your hands in the tank? I wash and rinse my hands really good before I put them in any of my tanks. I use rubbing alcohol most of the time.

Again, Sorry to hear this, but on the bright side, you still have 5 left! :)

tc
Mark

two utes
03-03-2008, 06:06 PM
Thanks Kevin. Yep it sure sucks when you loose one let alone three.
Eileen, yes it is a real shame, the largest one had reached 4 1/4", l had high hopes for him to get to 6" in no time at all.
Mark, l am always carefull when putting my hands in the tank, can't think of any problems there.
On the bright side l do have 5 left, and will be re organising things and get back into making them BIG!.....I'm down but not out. he,he,he

majik
03-03-2008, 06:32 PM
Hi Joe glad to hear your back into the challenge the shock of fish loss really wipes you for a couple of days ,Im sure the lone ranger will be much happier when among others:)

Darren's Discus
03-03-2008, 06:57 PM
Joe,
like they say mate, what doesn't break you makes you stronger, straight back on the horse and get those 5 huge !:)


cheers

Armandi_Fishcarer
04-08-2008, 11:24 PM
Hi Joe

Been away for a while & come back to

Anyhow as A1 Aquarium World stated about the Horse thing, Id do that :D

Keep the head up I always say & cut a loss as a loss

Hope all goes well for you mate

Regards Armandi ;)