Solid Red Snakeskin

[Eddie]

Been 2 months and time 4 an update. They are a little banged up from their recent move. I swapped tanks around, so they are in a blue tank. Some of them are starting to get striations in the face. Not adding any red enhancing foods yet, still growing them out.

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[CodOnMyRod]

Looking good Eddie. Awesome shape on them. I'll be keeping an eye out to see how these turn out.


Ruben

[LizStreithorst]

Nice. Very small very red eyes!

[Eddie]

Thanks Liz and Ruben, take care.


Eddie

[Yassmeena]

They look really great Eddie! There's one in particular that's really catching my eye! I bet you can guess which one. ;)

Nice work. :)

Best,

Yasmin

[Eddie]

They look really great Eddie! There's one in particular that's really catching my eye! I bet you can guess which one. ;)

Nice work. :)

Best,

Yasmin

Thanks Yas! I'm sure its the same one that catches mine. ;)


Take care,

Eddie

[rickztahone]

extraordinary shape on that last one Eddie. great work bud.

[Eddie]

extraordinary shape on that last one Eddie. great work bud.

Thanks Ricardo! These pups are really catching up with my Lago Solomon X Turqs. Both sets of fish were from T-AQUA, Watanabe is the breeder.


All the best!

Eddie

[Scribbles]

Great discus and pics as always Eddie! I love the shape and eyes on these guys. They should be exciting to watch develope.

Chris

[Eddie]

Great discus and pics as always Eddie! I love the shape and eyes on these guys. They should be exciting to watch develope.

Chris

Thanks Chris! Got high hopes for these as they have great wild genetics. :D


Take care,

Eddie

[Carolina discus]

Looking great Bro...keep us posted!

[acroken]

Nice Eddie, serious finnage on these little guys. super shape and eye size/color. They are awesome!

Kenny

[DiscusKev]

Great eye size in proportion to the body, and the shape of that body is incredible!
You've done a good job on raising them, I really can't wait till they colour up, I bet they will be a stunner :D

All the best,
Kevin

[underwaterforest]

Nice Fish Eddie. That first picture is interesting I've never seen stress bars like that before. It looks like the bars are intersecting rather than straight up and down, is that normal for young ones?

[hedut]

seems most of them have very round and hi-body Eddie, Good luck with them;);)

[Spardas]

Very nice Eddie. I can't wait to see them develop even more.

[Eddie]

Nice Fish Eddie. That first picture is interesting I've never seen stress bars like that before. It looks like the bars are intersecting rather than straight up and down, is that normal for young ones?

Thanks everyone, they are my favorites at the moment, well...my Blue Scorpion Albino Intermediates are but these are second! :D

Underwater, stress (mood) bars can pretty much do anything, although quite some time ago, breeders preferred straight bars. It is not the case much anymore, maybe with some breeders but many discus have intersecting/connecting mood bars. ;)

Take care,

Eddie

[bmrin1]

Love the shape. Great job

Brian

[kaceyo]

You're doin a great job raising those guys. They look good.

Kacey

[Eddie]

Thanks fellas, these guys are super hardy. I'm hoping Watanabe will share his on this thread.

All the best,

Eddie

[Eddie]

Shots with flash give a better color reference. :D


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[DiscusKev]

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51887&d=1263873446

Hey Eddie,

Has these "brown sharks" gotten their red colouring or any resemblance of their parents yet? I'm sorta anxious on how they look since the last update :p They've gotten their shape and now its time to see them colour up nicely, hopefully turn out as nice as the mother :D


http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showpost.php?p=608923&postcount=91

^For those who didn't get the "brown shark" joke.

All the best,
Kevin

[Eddie]

LOL, whats up man.....I haven't updated on these suckers in a while, been tied up with work. I'll get some shots in soon, they haven't taken too much color yet, still growing out. I'm anxious myself! ;)


Take care,

Eddie

[DiscusKev]

LOL, whats up man.....I haven't updated on these suckers in a while, been tied up with work. I'll get some shots in soon, they haven't taken too much color yet, still growing out. I'm anxious myself! ;)


Take care,

Eddie

Just took my time reading your past threads from 2004 :D Then I came upon this thread and was thinking to myself "wow, I totally forgotten about these little buggers :p"

PS: Besides Japan and US, I didn't know you moved to places like England :grin:

regards,
Kevin

[Eddie]

Just took my time reading your past threads from 2004 :D Then I came upon this thread and was thinking to myself "wow, I totally forgotten about these little buggers :p"

PS: Besides Japan and US, I didn't know you moved to places like England :grin:

regards,
Kevin

LOL, yeah man, was stationed in Spain, Portugal and the UK. I was living near Cambridge for 2 years, met my wife in London.

[DiscusKev]

LOL, yeah man, was stationed in Spain, Portugal and the UK. I was living near Cambridge for 2 years, met my wife in London.

Ah, very nice and adventurous past, sounds very interesting :D Talking about Discus, I especially like the way on your Heckel/crosses purchases, including the wild heckel from your LFS that you got for more than half the price since you buy from that place a lot ;) Its quite fun and worth the time going back and reading what happened in the best dontcha think so :p

[Eddie]

Ah, very nice and adventurous past, sounds very interesting :D Talking about Discus, I especially like the way on your Heckel/crosses purchases, including the wild heckel from your LFS that you got for more than half the price since you buy from that place a lot ;) Its quite fun and worth the time going back and reading what happened in the best dontcha think so :p

Yeah, I read prior posts from time to time, evolution of a hobbyist. ;) Its what its all about, seeing what you've learned.

Its been great, traveling and seeing the world. I'd like to get back to Europe someday.


Eddie

[jball1125]

[QUOTE=DiscusKev;635989]http://forum.simplydiscus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51887&d=1263873446

OHHHHH MY GOOOODDDNNNEESSSSS!

Where can I get some of these?

[DiscusKev]

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51887&d=1263873446

OHHHHH MY GOOOODDDNNNEESSSSS!

Where can I get some of these?

I believe it's from a member here at SimplyDiscus called T-Aqua, Watanabe,

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/member.php?u=21879

Thoroughbred Aquarium

http://t-aquarium.com/

Hope this helps,
Kevin

[jball1125]

Thanks for the info. It appears hesos in Japan. Anyone have them in the States? If not I'm sure Eddie wouldn't mind shipping some down for me :)

[vera]

Beautiful stock Eddie!they must be great looking SS by now
Pictures please !

[Eddie]

Thanks for the info. It appears hesos in Japan. Anyone have them in the States? If not I'm sure Eddie wouldn't mind shipping some down for me :)

LOL, I think Watanabe can ship to the US, but its expensive and I think a large order would be more beneficial.


Beautiful stock Eddie!they must be great looking SS by now
Pictures please !


Thanks Vera, not too much change in them. They hit the 4 inch mark so they are growing slowly but surely. Will try to get some updated shots today.

Take care,

Eddie

[Ed13]

I had totally forgoten these guys! Anxious to see what they look like today!

Never really put it together, T-aqua is Thorougbred Aquarium! LOL I love what I've seen from that shop so much! Didn't really now he was breeding discus too:o

[Eddie]

I had totally forgoten these guys! Anxious to see what they look like today!

Never really put it together, T-aqua is Thorougbred Aquarium! LOL I love what I've seen from that shop so much! Didn't really now he was breeding discus too:o

Oh yeah, Watanabe breeds some amazing fish. He has some nice Heckel Crosses that he put up on the board about a month ago.

Here are some of the other fish he's working with. Click on the thumbnails to see some of the parent fish or adults.

http://t-aquarium.com/shopbrand/096/O/

Eddie

[jball1125]

Yea I figure it would be really expensive. Maybe someone will start importing them in mass amounts in the future. Till then I can only envy your beautiful pair and fry :)

[Eddie]

Yea I figure it would be really expensive. Maybe someone will start importing them in mass amounts in the future. Till then I can only envy your beautiful pair and fry :)

Oh no, that pair is not mine, they are Watanabe's. I only have 7 of their offspring. ;)

Eddie

[DiscusKev]

Oh no, that pair is not mine, they are Watanabe's. I only have 7 of their offspring. ;)

Eddie

Lol, sorry if I was the one who caused the confusion as I should've noted that :p

Kevin

[blkrob]

I've been looking at the fish from the link. My lord!!! The NHAMUNDA ROYAL BLUE SPECIAL. Could you imagine a tank for of those.:shocked:

I need more money!!! I will never look at the price I pay for a fish the same again!

Thank you Eddie

Robert

[Ed13]

I've been looking at the fish from the link. My lord!!! The NHAMUNDA ROYAL BLUE SPECIAL. Could you imagine a tank for of those.:shocked:

Link, please, link!

[jball1125]

Oh yea I was totally confused. Lol.... The fry are stunning none the less!

[CodOnMyRod]

Eddie we need updated pics man.



Link, please, link!

http://t-aquarium.com/shopdetail/056000000004/


Ruben

[Eddie]

LOL, hold on peeps. :D

[Eddie]

Here you go, nothing major in growth this update. Its hard to get good shots during the day as the glare from the windows shines on the tank...but since you guys were hard pressed, I took some anyways. Plus the wife has the good camera. LOL

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[Ed13]

They appear to have gained some bulk Eddie! Too bad for our patience they are 14bars with a brown base too, color is going to take a while on these!

[Eddie]

They appear to have gained some bulk Eddie! Too bad for our patience they are 14bars with a brown base too, color is going to take a while on these!

Hell yeah...LONG time but it will be worth the wait! :D

Take care,

Eddie

[William Palumbo]

Looking Good Eddie! I forgot about these guys once you started posting the progress of the Salomons. Two killer batches of fish to work with. All the best with them...Bill

[Eddie]

Looking Good Eddie! I forgot about these guys once you started posting the progress of the Salomons. Two killer batches of fish to work with. All the best with them...Bill

Thanks Bill, hope the turn out nice! ;)

Take care,

Eddie

[vera]

WOW ! not much color , but seriously ROUND !
keep us posted Eddie
TC :)

[Eddie]

WOW ! not much color , but seriously ROUND !
keep us posted Eddie
TC :)

Will do Vera! Thanks

Once they get larger I will add some good things to their diet to enhance red. ;)

Eddie

[hedut]

Wow looking good Eddie, love post 21 last pic he/she look thick and round:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[CodOnMyRod]

They look great Eddie. Like Vera said they have very nice shape. Keep us updated.



Ruben

[Eddie]

Thanks fellas, you know I'll keep up with updates.


Take care,

Eddie

[Eddie]

Flash on

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[athy]

wow they are looking great! absolutely love the updates :D its nice to get to see them grow

[Eddie]

wow they are looking great! absolutely love the updates :D its nice to get to see them grow

Thanks Athena, I can't wait until they grow into adults and get their nice color.


Take care,

Eddie

[JL15219]

Very nice looking discus there Eddie nice and round......how big are they?

[DiscusKev]

Very nice looking discus there Eddie nice and round......how big are they?



Thanks Vera, not too much change in them. They hit the 4 inch mark so they are growing slowly but surely. Will try to get some updated shots today.

Take care,

Eddie

4inch SL I guess as they look huge in the photos :D

Thanks for the update Eddie, you sure posted a lot of photos :p

Kevin

[mlov1022]

Awesome, 4 months old & 4". They are going to be monsters. Great job Eddie.

[Eddie]

Awesome, 4 months old & 4". They are going to be monsters. Great job Eddie.

LOL, no way Marc! These guys are probably around 7 months old. I've had them since January and I think they were 3-4 months old when they arrived.

Thanks for the comments folks, had to update with better pictures. :D

Take care,

Eddie

[calihawker]

Those are some beauties Eddie! Great job.

[Eddie]

Those are some beauties Eddie! Great job.

Thanks Steve!

Take care my friend,

Eddie

[wreck]

very nice looking babies!!!

[Wahter]

Eddie,

Is that T-Aquarium located in Okinawa or where is it located in Japan? I ran the names of those discus strains through the google translator so I didn't have to look up the Japanese katakana "Haibodi" = "high body" and "Rubisupa" = "ruby super". :):):)



Walter

[Eddie]

very nice looking babies!!!

Thanks


Eddie,

Is that T-Aquarium located in Okinawa or where is it located in Japan? I ran the names of those discus strains through the google translator so I didn't have to look up the Japanese katakana "Haibodi" = "high body" and "Rubisupa" = "ruby super". :):):)



Walter

Hey Walter, T-Aquarium is in mainland Japan, in Nagoya.

Eddie

[TankWatcher]

Love their shape! super round. Just wait till they colour up!

[Eddie]

Love their shape! super round. Just wait till they colour up!


Thanks Robyn, there are a few that are turning out REAL nice. This group has stepped up in feeding and its really showing. The next set of pictures from these guys will be something, mark my word! ;)

Take care!

Eddie

[jball1125]

CAN'T wait for that update! I'm sure I'll be drueling all over the place.... :)

[T-AQUA]

Hello Eddie!

Your discus brother photos.
Albino solid red snake skin.
Look please.

Take care

Watanabe

[Eddie]

Very nice Watanabe! That fish is stunning!

Thanks for sharing and take care,

Eddie

[richiem111]

Great job of growing these out Eddie! They have really put on some nice growth in the time you have had them. Nice conformation. The fish in pic #20 is stunning. Can't wait to see them color up!

[Eddie]

Thanks Richard, appreciate it. Next update should be a good one! I've been pounding them with Mal's Freeze Dried Worms. :D

Take care,

Eddie

[jball1125]

Eddie, everytime you mention something about an updat with pictures I find myself refreshing the page every 2 seconds. How about just catching me by surprise next time, jeez your gona get me in trouble at work.

[Eddie]

Eddie, everytime you mention something about an updat with pictures I find myself refreshing the page every 2 seconds. How about just catching me by surprise next time, jeez your gona get me in trouble at work.


LOL, You crack me up man.


Take care,

Eddie

[Eddie]

Monthly increments are good. Another few months and these Reds should be coming of age. They are getting alot more red as time goes by too. At the moment, these are the best group I am working with. They have already surpassed my Lago Solomon Crosses.

Enjoy......lots O photos!

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[vera]

What a shape !! im drooling , they will be super red in time,
they look quite big
Well done Eddie :)

[Eddie]

What a shape !! im drooling , they will be super red in time,
they look quite big
Well done Eddie :)


Thanks Vera! These are the leaders in my tanks at the moment, they are getting big. They are growing out NICELY. They are getting fed with my mix most of the day and I've added paprika, carrots and color bits to the mix. They LOVE IT! ;)

Eddie

[DiscusKev]

Getting more reddish, seems like your trick on adding more carotene content into their food is doing the trick. I can't imagine how they would look during their adult colouration, but I know they will do as nice as their parents :)

all the best,

[Eddie]

Getting more reddish, seems like your trick on adding more carotene content into their food is doing the trick. I can't imagine how they would look during their adult colouration, but I know they will do as nice as their parents :)

all the best,


Thanks Kev, I can only hope they turn out like their Dad. Interesting though, the ring on Dad is black where the rings on mine are blue. Wonder how they look when they reach adults.

Take care,

Eddie

[DiscusKev]

Thanks Kev, I can only hope they turn out like their Dad. Interesting though, the ring on Dad is black where the rings on mine are blue. Wonder how they look when they reach adults.

Take care,

Eddie

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51887&d=1263873446

They might turn like mummy, but we'll see :angel:

[Eddie]

Might be and also, I was thinking, the black may just be more pronounced during breeding/fry rearing so it may be normally blue and just get dark when they are displaying breeding colors.

[Crockett]

Nice job growing those out Eddie. I'm amazed at their shape and they seem to be really solid. I look forward to seeing some pics of them when they start to get more red.

All the best

Dave

[Eddie]

Nice job growing those out Eddie. I'm amazed at their shape and they seem to be really solid. I look forward to seeing some pics of them when they start to get more red.

All the best

Dave


Thanks Dave!

Take care,

Eddie

[Ed13]

Thanks Kev, I can only hope they turn out like their Dad. Interesting though, the ring on Dad is black where the rings on mine are blue. Wonder how they look when they reach adults.

Take care,

Eddie
Don't hold it against me buddy, but as awesome as their dad is, I'd rather they turn out more like their mom:D. Either way they'll be gorgeous!

[DiscusKev]

Don't hold it against me buddy, but as awesome as their dad is, I'd rather they turn out more like their mom:D. Either way they'll be gorgeous!

How about 50/50 :p All the males would be like daddy and all the females would be like mommy :D

[kaceyo]

You're doing a great job raising these guys. Beautiful shapes, well balanced look etc. They'll be stunners as adults.

[jball1125]

Wow Eddie they look huge!

Your doing an awesome job raising these.

Thanks for sharing :D

[Eddie]

Thanks all, appreciate it. Yeah Ed, I like Mom too but I won't see any of them until F2. :D

Take care!

Eddie

[DiscusKev]

Thanks all, appreciate it. Yeah Ed, I like Mom too but I won't see any of them until F2. :D

Take care!

Eddie

Reason being?

[Eddie]

Reason being?


Ah Kev, its because Mom is not a snake. These 14 bar (snake) surely carry the 9 bar gene (from Mom) and when crossed together, there will more than likely be both 9 and 14 bar fish. This isn't always the case with snakes but since Mom is not a snake, it opens the door for 9 bar offspring. ;)


Eddie

[DiscusKev]

Ah Kev, its because Mom is not a snake. These 14 bar (snake) surely carry the 9 bar gene (from Mom) and when crossed together, there will more than likely be both 9 and 14 bar fish. This isn't always the case with snakes but since Mom is not a snake, it opens the door for 9 bar offspring. ;)


Eddie

Oh, I thought the mommy was a snakeskin due to the fineline pattern on the body and expression on the face/forehead. Thanks for solving my mystery :D

[ltd]

Beautiful discus Eddie, they certainly have a very nice shape!

Stunning parents too. I also thought mommy was a snake.

[Eddie]

Oh, I thought the mommy was a snakeskin due to the fineline pattern on the body and expression on the face/forehead. Thanks for solving my mystery :D


Beautiful discus Eddie, they certainly have a very nice shape!

Stunning parents too. I also thought mommy was a snake.

HAHAHA, you guys are right, I had my symbols mixed up from day one! I thought Mom was the 9 bar but I was backwards. Sorry about that, and yes....the deep red fish with the fineline pattern is what I would like displayed in the these pups.

Take care!

Eddie

[DiscusKev]

HAHAHA, you guys are right, I had my symbols mixed up from day one! I thought Mom was the 9 bar but I was backwards. Sorry about that, and yes....the deep red fish with the fineline pattern is what I would like displayed in the these pups.

Take care!

Eddie

Thought so, as I remember you mentioned that you like the red discus fish pattern/colour on "awesome red fish!". I was like, 'hmm how comes Eddie tastes had changed so fast, I thought he wanted it to be red' :p You sure got me baffled for a moment :o

[Ed13]

Ah Kev, its because Mom is not a snake. These 14 bar (snake) surely carry the 9 bar gene (from Mom) and when crossed together, there will more than likely be both 9 and 14 bar fish. This isn't always the case with snakes but since Mom is not a snake, it opens the door for 9 bar offspring. ;)


Eddie


HAHAHA, you guys are right, I had my symbols mixed up from day one! I thought Mom was the 9 bar but I was backwards. Sorry about that, and yes....the deep red fish with the fineline pattern is what I would like displayed in the these pups.

Take care!

Eddie

LOL, I was so confused that I kept browsing the previous pics and scratching my head:p

[DiscusKev]

LOL, I was so confused that I kept browsing the previous pics and scratching my head:p

Your not alone lol, even after Eddie told me that he mixed up the symbols. I had to go back to my posts, re-read them and look at the pictures to "re-organise" the image heh.

[Eddie]

Sorry for the confusion guys, damn symbols. LOL Its funny because everybody was always complimenting Mom and when I thought mom was the 9 bar, I thought that was weird since the Red Snake was PHENOMENAL. LOL My bad folks, need symbol training. :o

[Eddie]

Its been a month and mind you, these guys were only fed for few days in June since I was gone. :D


http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01690.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01688.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01687.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01686.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01683.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01681.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01680.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01677.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01675.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01670.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01669.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01662.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01661.jpg

[jball1125]

They are looking good Eddie!

The red is slowly creeping in. For some reason I love fish that take long to show their true beauty. :p

[Eddie]

They are looking good Eddie!

The red is slowly creeping in. For some reason I love fish that take long to show their true beauty. :p


Thanks, I just started them back on my mix so their colors are still dull from the month with no food. :D

Take care,

Eddie

[ricky.66]

They r good ,very nice shape !

Regards,
Ricky :)

[Eddie]

They r good ,very nice shape !

Regards,
Ricky :)


Thanks Ricky! Really appreciate it.

Take care,

Eddie

[calihawker]

Beautiful Eddie. How do I get me some!;)

[hadalu]

For almost a months w/o food your discus still looks perfect!

[Eddie]

Beautiful Eddie. How do I get me some!;)

Thanks Steve! Well, the breeder has them in mainland Japan now but they are extremely expensive at this size now. Maybe I can breed them in a few months and get some juveniles out to you. :D Not sure how feasible that would be. :o


For almost a months w/o food your discus still looks perfect!

Thanks, these guys are very robust.

Eddie

[Discus-n00b]

I had to go back in the thread to see what they looked like hehe. They look great now Eddie, they've beefed up quite a bit. Looking forward to seeing their patterns come out more.

[Eddie]

I had to go back in the thread to see what they looked like hehe. They look great now Eddie, they've beefed up quite a bit. Looking forward to seeing their patterns come out more.

Thanks Matt! These guys are getting more red with every feeding! This is the Alpha of the tank and this sucker hates pictures! LOL

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/2%20July/DSC01761.jpg

[DiscusKev]

They are some cool discus Eddie, I'm still impressived how they look even when they've haven't been fed during your absent. Good job :thumbsup: Oh one more thing, how big are they SL and TL?

[Eddie]

They are some cool discus Eddie, I'm still impressived how they look even when they've haven't been fed during your absent. Good job :thumbsup: Oh one more thing, how big are they SL and TL?


Thanks Kev, these puppies range from 5-5.5 inches. Hoping to get them to six inches and then fill them out. ;)


Take care,

Eddie

[scottthomas]

Thanks Kev, these puppies range from 5-5.5 inches. Hoping to get them to six inches and then fill them out.


Take care,

Eddie
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Wow, the shape on those is great. Will be interesting to see how red they truely get. Based on parents, they should look fantastic. I hope you are planning to breed them. I am interested in what the next generation looks like too.

[Eddie]

Wow, the shape on those is great. Will be interesting to see how red they truely get. Based on parents, they should look fantastic. I hope you are planning to breed them. I am interested in what the next generation looks like too.


Thanks Scott! I am definitely planning to breed them. I'll keep you posted.

Take care,

Eddie

[wadewc]

Very nice Eddie!! They sure have a nice shape!!

Wade

[Eddie]

Very nice Eddie!! They sure have a nice shape!!

Wade


Thanks Wade! Take care buddy!


Eddie

[Eddie]

Interesting, out of the group which is quite similar in shape and finnage, one fish has long ventral fins, longer than any of the others and they are nice bright red. ;)

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/6%20July/DSC01972.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/6%20July/DSC01969.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/6%20July/DSC01968.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/6%20July/DSC01967.jpg

[DiscusKev]

If that's the ventral fins, what is the pelvic fins, I always thought that those are the pelvic fins.

Have you got any ideas as to why the 'ventral fins' are split and would they be passed onto the offspring?

[Eddie]

If that's the ventral fins, what is the pelvic fins, I always thought that those are the pelvic fins.

Have you got any ideas as to why the 'ventral fins' are split and would they be passed onto the offspring?


Yes they can be called pelvic fins also Kev.


http://www.discusnada.org/discus/anatomy.html

Some fish develop split ventral fins but its best if both are uniform not one split and one not. I wouldn't have a clue as to whether or not it would be passed on but if they do, I'm game. :D

Take care man,

Eddie

[DiscusKev]

Oh well, that fish has character :D It actually reminds me of the claws from a mantis, ya me!

[jball1125]

I love long pelvic fins. It makes the fish look elegant IMO...

I was bit startled when I saw the picture by Peter Lee in the link you provided. It almost looks like the fish is looking back at him saying "What have you done!!!"... lol. Anyway, its a very good diagram and I saved it to my favs. Thanks for sharring.

[ockyra215]

Good luck with them Eddie they look great Ill trade you a reflection D I have for one J/K :D

[Eddie]

Thanks guys! I too love the long ventral (pelvic) fins.

Take care,

Eddie

[roclement]

Dang Eddie! Those look amazing! Shape is great and the coloring is unique. I love the long fins, it reminds me of old school snakeskins! Thanks for sharing!

Rodrigo

[Eddie]

Dang Eddie! Those look amazing! Shape is great and the coloring is unique. I love the long fins, it reminds me of old school snakeskins! Thanks for sharing!

Rodrigo


Thanks Rod!

Take care man,

Eddie

[CrazyAngels]

Eddie, thanks for the sharing pictures of your awesome fish, I'm impressed at the potential of them in your hands.. great job.

BTW. PM'd you back. thanks

CrazyAngels :D

[Eddie]

Eddie, thanks for the sharing pictures of your awesome fish, I'm impressed at the potential of them in your hands.. great job.

BTW. PM'd you back. thanks

CrazyAngels :D


Thanks CA, I'll send you a message as soon as I am off from the daily grind.


Take care,

Eddie

[Eddie]

Quick update, getting some nice color.

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/22%20July/DSC02094.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/22%20July/DSC02091.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/22%20July/DSC02090.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/22%20July/DSC02089.jpg

[acroken]

i missed this thread. Eddie, man they are turning out beautiful. shape is awesome and i love the base color contrast with the finnage. I am surly going to keep an eye on them now. can not wait to see them when that color fully develops. As usual, great work.

Kenny

[William Palumbo]

Looking really good there Eddie! Color is very nice, as is the shape. Gonna be sweet!...Bill

[DavidH]

Awesome Eddie, love the shape and color.
Dave

[kaceyo]

Very nice. I'd think a solid red SS would be kinda drab, but not so. these guys are glowing.

[Tito]

Very nice!

Love the shape.

[DiscusKev]

Man, I am so anxious to see them revealing their patterns when they become adults!!!

This is an awesome thread!

[kaceyo]

Man, I am so anxious to see them revealing their patterns when they become adults!!!

This is an awesome thread!

They shouldn't have any pattern since they're "solid" reds. They could get redder though.

[DiscusKev]

They shouldn't have any pattern since they're "solid" reds. They could get redder though.

They will have some facial pattern though, they are snakeskin and judging from the parents (the female), it could turn out like her.

*Although this is an albino, it has patterns, check it out (http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showpost.php?p=640376&postcount=68)

Just a reminder, here is the picture of the parent, click here (http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showpost.php?p=635989&postcount=22)

[kaceyo]

Yes, you are right. I wasn't thinking in those terms, only that they were solids. That is one very nice albino as well.

[Eddie]

Thanks all, I am really digging these guys/gals. I especially like their bright red legs (pelvic fins).

Take care,

Eddie

[jball1125]

Very nice red coming out!

Thanks for sharing:)

[Eddie]

Very nice red coming out!

Thanks for sharing:)

Thanks jb, very proud of these pups!

Take care,

Eddie

[vera]

WOW !!
cant believe these are actually SS -they look as red as VR's fantastic colors and roundness
u've done good job man !
Best of luck :)

[Scribbles]

I'm loving the color and shape of these guys. You're doing a great job with them. I can't wait to see what they look like as adults.

Chris

[Eddie]

Thanks Vera and Chris!

Take care,

Eddie

[scottthomas]

Fantastic! Thanks for the updates.

[Eddie]

Fantastic! Thanks for the updates.


Thanks Scott! Hopefully will have some good ones in a few weeks. ;)

Take care my friend,

Eddie

[ockyra215]

Eddie how about an update! Love to see some more of these guys.....:D

[Eddie]

Eddie how about an update! Love to see some more of these guys.....:D


Sure thing bud, sorry about that. Had taken some photos showing how the new color enhancing flake is doing. I'm impressed with it so far. ;)

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?t=82280&page=3

[PAR23]

Hope this is not a silly question but why are you withholding color enhancing food at this point? Does it interfer with later color development?

[Eddie]

Hope this is not a silly question but why are you withholding color enhancing food at this point? Does it interfer with later color development?


LOL, no worries, no silly questions. They are being fed color enhancing foods now. As they were growing out, I didn't use anything special to enhance their colors because they were young. Young fish don't develop nice coloration until later. For me, getting them big and healthy is priority 1 and then I can concentrate on their colors once they mature into adults. These Red Snakes are sub-adults, still have a some growing to do but displaying some nice colors already.


Eddie

[Discus_1]

Nice fish eddie ;)

cant wait to see wat the final result will look like ;)

[Eddie]

Nice fish eddie ;)

cant wait to see wat the final result will look like ;)


Thanks, me too. Hopefully the final result will look like a bunch of fry on their backs. :D

Take care,

Eddie

[Discus_1]

LOL, you have anymore update pics or no?

[ockyra215]

They look good Eddie keep up the good work :D

[Eddie]

Thanks, have a shot or 2 I can post up later. ;)

Eddie

[DerekFF]

These fish are so sexy......i cant wait to see their home made "fish porn"

[Eddie]

These fish are so sexy......i cant wait to see their home made "fish porn"


LMAO! Me too man, me too. They are doing a million times better these days. I put them back on my mix so their colors are coming back in. I'll try to get some pictures in the next couple of days.

Eddie

[DerekFF]

Like...seriously is it possible for you to send me a DNA sample and ill get them cloned......i just wanna touch one...just once lol

[Eddie]

Like...seriously is it possible for you to send me a DNA sample and ill get them cloned......i just wanna touch one...just once lol


LOL, well I would if I could. :D

[Eddie]

Little update, a few pictures. LOL 2 water changes a week and being fed primarily Mal's worms at the moment. Its all I have time for. :o

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03404.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03402.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03396.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03393.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03391.jpg

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03389.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03387.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03386.jpg
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http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03343.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03331.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss289/extremeist/Solid%20Red%20Snake/24%20Oct%202010/DSC03330.jpg

[vera]

Man, these are pure STUNNERS !wish them mine :)

[Kingdom Come Discus]

They seem to be doing great. Very nice fish.

[Eddie]

Thanks Vera and Kraig! I really enjoy this group, they are so plain yet so attractive for me.

Take care!

Eddie

[hedut]

all looking good Eddie:thumbsup:

[Eddie]

Thanks Hendri! ;)

[Jennie]

I can'y believe you hardly feed them and they look that good.:)

[Eddie]

I can'y believe you hardly feed them and they look that good.:)


Ah, its all in the water. :o

[Jennie]

whatever Eddie:p

[Eddie]

whatever Eddie:p


No I'm serious though. Ever since I've been in and out of the house, I have investigated ways of increasing nutrient absorption from water since I cannot feed them often or change their water often. Seems to be working out. ;)

Thanks for the comment!

Eddie

[Jennie]

well, what are you doing???

[Eddie]

well, what are you doing???

Just increasing my GH and KH. ;)

[DiscusKev]

Stunning, they are looking real good Eddie. Keep it up

[PAR23]

Wow......Amazing looking group. How big are they now?

[Larry208]

Eddie :

Have to say that those are some nice looking discus. Then all of your fish look great. They are comming along real nice.
Keep up the good work.

Larry

[joanr]

+1, They are gorgous! So Eddie, what are you using to increase the GH & Kh? Any special product? And what levels are you keeping your hardness at?

[Eddie]

+1, They are gorgous! So Eddie, what are you using to increase the GH & Kh? Any special product? And what levels are you keeping your hardness at?

Thanks Joan!

2 things, Seachem Reef Builder and Kent Liquid Calcium Chloride. I have actually switched to Seachem Calcium Reef Advantage in place of Kent. ;)

[Eddie]

Wow......Amazing looking group. How big are they now?

Not that big, probably 5.5"+. They've gone for quite a while with 1 feed a week to one feed a day since all the issues at home. :(

[DerekFF]

fish porn!!! fish porn!!!

[Eddie]

fish porn!!! fish porn!!!

Soon my friend, soon. LOL Been traveling since 21 November. Will get them primed when I return to Okinawa.

[wendy9722]

They are stunning Eddie!!! Send me some juvies too!!! They just blow my mind how they've turned out.
Merry Christmas,
Wendy

[Eddie]

They are stunning Eddie!!! Send me some juvies too!!! They just blow my mind how they've turned out.
Merry Christmas,
Wendy

Thanks Wendy! Merry Christmas to you also. I'll update on these as soon as I return to Japan. I arrive back on the 28th.

Take care!

Eddie

[scottthomas]

Eddie,

Have you ever seen someone selling something similar in the states? These are the most badass fish I have seen. I would sell most of mine to buy some.

[Eddie]

Eddie,

Have you ever seen someone selling something similar in the states? These are the most badass fish I have seen. I would sell most of mine to buy some.

Nope, can't say that I have. Most SS varieties available in the US are full bodied pattern or scorpions. Thats why I liked these so much, they have a real nice red/brown base and only minimal striations in the face and fins. I'm hoping to breed them in the coming months. I can't wait to see them in their breeding colors. You know I'll be posting pictures!

Take care,

Eddie

[LizStreithorst]

I adore those fish.