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Larry Bugg
05-14-2011, 08:14 PM
I got 3 Albino San Merah from Mike Beals last shipment. These guys are beautiful, IMO. Mike told me that two of them were spawning as he was bagging them to send to me. Within a week of being in the QT they spawned again. Couldn't really tell if the one not laying eggs was a male or not. Very small spawn and they ate the eggs the next day. I went down to the fish room this afternoon to find them guarding eggs on the cone. The tubes were still down and the one I am hoping to be a male looks like a male. Time will tell. The eggs look good. Here are some pictures, enjoy.

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Albino%20San%20Merah/DSC_0011.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Albino%20San%20Merah/DSC_0010.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Albino%20San%20Merah/DSC_0009.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Albino%20San%20Merah/DSC_0007.jpg

http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx56/Bugman30040/Albino%20San%20Merah/DSC_0006.jpg

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wendy9722
05-14-2011, 08:19 PM
They look GREAT!!!! I hope all goes well with eggs.
Keith Perkins
05-14-2011, 10:35 PM
Nice Larry, good luck.
Cevoe
05-14-2011, 11:57 PM
Larry,
They are awesome.
One of my favorite strains and even better with eggs.
Mr.BigBlock
05-15-2011, 02:09 AM
Wow! Those guys look awesome...the eggs are a bonus! Good luck!

Joie
DiscusKev
05-15-2011, 06:37 AM
They look so hot in red, love the redness and their body shape is impressive. I want some =)
PAR23
05-15-2011, 08:30 AM
Those look great Larry. I also picked up 4 ASM from Mike but no action on my end.:(
Good luck with the clutch.
vera
05-15-2011, 08:32 AM
What a fish! the one fully solored is outstanding
best of luck Larry with breeding
YSS
05-15-2011, 10:29 AM
Wow! They look awesome. Are they that red in person? Good luck with them.
rdiscus
05-15-2011, 10:48 AM
Wow ... red, red, red even the eggs
Larry Bugg
05-15-2011, 12:10 PM
Thanks everyone. They are indeed that red in person. I pulled the third one out of the tank last night and put quick cure in to help keep the eggs from getting fungus. I also put a cage around them. I am not pushed to get a good spawn at this time but I really would like to confirm if it is a pair. Went down today and no changes. No fungus, which is a big plus to give time needed to see if they are fertilized.
Larry Bugg
05-17-2011, 09:23 AM
Checked the eggs last night and was dissappointed because they didn't look any different. It did look like some were moving but I wrote that off to the parents fanning them and the flow making them move a little. These parents have not left the cone for a minute. I went down this morning to feed everyone before heading to work and checked the eggs again. At first I didn't notice it but took another look and sure enough WIGGLERS. Confirmed Pair!! With non - albinos you see a color change with the wiggler being a dark color. With albinos there is no color change at all. The egg is red and the wiggler is red, but the magnifying glass doesn't lie. Wooohoooooo
Mr.BigBlock
05-17-2011, 05:56 PM
Awesome news! Keep us posted with pics!

Joie
D'Rock
05-18-2011, 01:59 AM
oh my....damn....those are RED! please, keep us updated on the fry if they're gonna be a successful batch. keeping my fingers cross for you. good luck....
Larry Bugg
05-18-2011, 09:29 AM
oh my....damn....those are RED! please, keep us updated on the fry if they're gonna be a successful batch. keeping my fingers cross for you. good luck....

Thanks, I have my fingers crossed also. It isn't a large batch and the hard part is to get them to attach. Will see what happens but if this one doesn't work out they will probably be at it again in a week or so. They were still on the cone when I left for work this morning.
jimfur
05-20-2011, 03:56 PM
Larry,
that is awesome. Keep us posted.

Jim
ikevi
05-22-2011, 10:34 PM
Very nice.
Larry Bugg
05-22-2011, 10:35 PM
Very nice.

Thanks Kevin. When is the move?
Keith Perkins
05-22-2011, 10:48 PM
That's great news Larry. Do you know what that pair will give you, all Albino San Merahs?
Larry Bugg
05-22-2011, 11:07 PM
That's great news Larry. Do you know what that pair will give you, all Albino San Merahs?

All albinos but I believe it would be San Merah and something like Rose Reds would be the throw back. At least that's what my limited knowledge of genes tells me.
Keith Perkins
05-22-2011, 11:25 PM
That makes sense. Hope to see some fry pics sooner rather than later.
Larry Bugg
05-22-2011, 11:35 PM
That makes sense. Hope to see some fry pics sooner rather than later.

Well it will be a little later. They ate the wigglers. It was a very small spawn. I am just very happy to know they are a pair. I now have them set up in one of my 20H breeders.
Larry Bugg
05-23-2011, 09:00 PM
Round Two. They layed eggs sometime after I left for work and before I got home. Pretty good size clutch. Started to put a screen over the cone and several eggs started to fall off so I am leaving it off. Next few days will tell.
Chad Adams
05-23-2011, 09:57 PM
Round Two. They layed eggs sometime after I left for work and before I got home. Pretty good size clutch. Started to put a screen over the cone and several eggs started to fall off so I am leaving it off. Next few days will tell.

Got a case of the no-stickys. This too will subside with maturity. Happened with all my albinos. Actually, sounds like a defect in the fish. You better let
me take them so they don't affect your other fish.

Chad
Keith Perkins
05-23-2011, 10:51 PM
:D That was good Chad.
vera
05-24-2011, 01:21 AM
Got a case of the no-stickys. This too will subside with maturity. Happened with all my albinos. Actually, sounds like a defect in the fish. You better let
me take them so they don't affect your other fish.

Chad

i think u right :p
m.ingram
05-24-2011, 03:08 AM
WOW Bugman they are magnificent looking discus .Good luck with them hope u get heaps of little ones out of them .
Larry Bugg
05-24-2011, 08:50 AM
Got a case of the no-stickys. This too will subside with maturity. Happened with all my albinos. Actually, sounds like a defect in the fish. You better let
me take them so they don't affect your other fish.

Chad


:D That was good Chad.


i think u right :p

I know he is looking out for my best interest but for some reason I just can't follow through with his advice on this.


WOW Bugman they are magnificent looking discus .Good luck with them hope u get heaps of little ones out of them .

Thanks, I am very pleased with them.
DiscusLoverJeff
05-24-2011, 11:28 AM
Awesome looking pair! I hope for good results in time and some fry up for sale on SD soon.
DiscusLoverJeff
05-24-2011, 11:30 AM
I pulled the third one out of the tank last night and put quick cure in to help keep the eggs from getting fungus. I also put a cage around them.

When you say you put some "quick cure" in to keep fungus down, is that the same as the meth blue? How much do you use?
Larry Bugg
05-24-2011, 01:54 PM
When you say you put some "quick cure" in to keep fungus down, is that the same as the meth blue? How much do you use?

Not the same thing. Quick cure contains Malachite Green which helps keep the fungus off the eggs. The correct dosing is 1 drop per gallon I believe but Sabres1 told me he used a syringe to spray directly on the eggs. I tried that this time. Because of the coloring you can see it coat the eggs. I would think this would enable you to use less than the amount that is called for for the entire tank.
Chad Adams
05-24-2011, 02:29 PM
I know he is looking out for my best interest but for some reason I just can't follow through with his advice on this.


You'll pay for this!!! And.... and... your little dog too.....
MostlyDiscus
05-25-2011, 10:36 AM
Can we fast forward about 10 months so we can see what the offsping look like. Pictures speak volumes, bugger.

Ed
Larry Bugg
05-25-2011, 10:49 AM
Can we fast forward about 10 months so we can see what the offsping look like. Pictures speak volumes, bugger.

Ed

Well I read on the genetics thread where Rod said San Merah breed pretty true. Time will tell.

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?64729-quot-Discus-Genetics-and-Breeding-Info-and-Discussion-quot/page12
Chunks
07-08-2011, 05:22 AM
Simply Gorgeous... I wish you could ship to Australia
hedut
07-09-2011, 03:25 PM
Any up date picture Larry?



Simply Gorgeous... I wish you could ship to Australia

check with Rod or exotic aquatic Australia :) both have nice fish.
Chunks
07-18-2011, 08:46 PM
check with Rod or exotic aquatic Australia :) both have nice fish.

Yeah I called Rod, nice guy, it seems though that I'm not on the flight path for deliveries...
ShinShin
11-28-2011, 12:49 AM
Whatever happened to the 2nd spawn, Larry? I was looking forward to buying some from you.

Mat
Larry Bugg
11-28-2011, 06:59 PM
Whatever happened to the 2nd spawn, Larry? I was looking forward to buying some from you.

Mat

Still haven't gotten them to attach.
Keith Perkins
11-28-2011, 07:55 PM
That's a major bummer Larry. :(
Larry Bugg
11-28-2011, 08:21 PM
Well that is not exactly true.................they have two 1 week old free swimmers attached right now.
Keith Perkins
11-28-2011, 09:00 PM
:) Talk about your small victories.
ShinShin
11-29-2011, 01:27 AM
That's too bad. They are really nice fish.

Mat
nc0gnet0
11-29-2011, 01:56 AM
Have you tried foster parents yet?
Larry Bugg
11-29-2011, 10:01 AM
Have you tried foster parents yet?

I was going to with the last spawn but she decided to spawn on the tank gass instead of the cone.
rdiscus
11-29-2011, 10:37 AM
Smart girl, she knew you take her eggs away :)
nc0gnet0
11-29-2011, 03:06 PM
Do you have any other non-albino pairs in breeding tanks currently laying eggs? Reason I ask is I have much better luck moving the free swimmers with a turkey baster and placing them with the foster parents, the key is timing, ideally the foster parents should have wigglers of there own that are within a day of free swimming themselves.
Larry Bugg
11-29-2011, 03:14 PM
Do you have any other non-albino pairs in breeding tanks currently laying eggs? Reason I ask is I have much better luck moving the free swimmers with a turkey baster and placing them with the foster parents, the key is timing, ideally the foster parents should have wigglers of there own that are within a day of free swimming themselves.

I do but at the time this last batch came along the pair I had with fry were already about 12 days free swimming so there would be a huge size difference and I didnt' try it.
Allwin
03-24-2014, 01:58 PM
Late to the party, but do u ever had any luck with this gorgeous pair?


I do but at the time this last batch came along the pair I had with fry were already about 12 days free swimming so there would be a huge size difference and I didnt' try it.
Chad Adams
03-24-2014, 02:59 PM
Late to the party, but do u ever had any luck with this gorgeous pair?

Allwin,

He sent them to me, we could never get them to spawn again after Larry first got them:(

Now that you have all the tank painted, you should see a little better luck.

Chad
rdiscus
03-24-2014, 03:29 PM
They're in good hand, but still not spawning ... Send them back :)