Batch 1 Blue Diamond x Dark Angel

[nc0gnet0]

First the parents. Dark Angel Female x Blue Diamond Male, from the NADA show, originally fron Hans.

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/contest5.jpg

These two lay eggs every 3 1/2 days. They are the same ones I have in currently in an artificial rearing setup (along with a few wigglers from a 2009 contest fish and one of my F1's).

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?94585-Experiment/page3

As these two are currently in a community tank, the wigglers are with foster parents, a Curipera x and another one of my f1's. they just began attaching yesterday and are almost 100% attached (you can still see a few stragglers huddeld in the corner if you look close).


With foster dad:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/contest1.jpg

Caught in the act of a fry handoff:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/contest2.jpg

Pass complete, now with mom:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/contest4.jpg

Sorry about the low quality of pictures, still in the fragile stage and did not want to disturb the parents too much.

Rick

[rdiscus]

Congrats ! Yes more for contest ...

[Skip]

sweet!!!

[hedut]

sweet!!!

+1, I'm looking forward to see all update :)

[Second Hand Pat]

Should be an interesting cross. That dark angel was all kinds of color in the sunlight at the show and yes, more for the contest. Rick, were you at the show. I do not recall meeting you?

[DiscusDrew]

I'm so interested to compare these against the dark angel fry I'm raising Rick. Looks like they're doing fantastic so far my friend. Don't know if you saw but I picked up a dark angel female that seems to closely resemble your female in part (the extremely blue one). Should be very interesting to compare the two. Good to see more people jumping into the competition and best if luck with them Rick!

[nc0gnet0]

Pat

No, I wasn't there...but I know people ;)

Drew, the double dark angel you refer too of mine is one of the reasons I am pursuing this cross, to see if it wold produce more like her.

Rick

[DiscusDrew]

Well as you know you've got my interest in that endeavor.

[John_Nicholson]

Looking good Rick.

-john

[nwehrman]

Looking good - congrats Rick!


Nicole

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[Second Hand Pat]

...No, I wasn't there...but I know people ;) ...

For some reason that does not surprise me Rick ;)

[nc0gnet0]

One week update photo:

http://s567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/batch1.jpg

[TNT77]

Rick let me know if you want to sell some of these. I really want to see if these turn out like i think they will.

[shoveltrash]

Rick just went thru your other 'potential contest fish' threads in addition to this one - you've got some fascinating crosses/really nice pairs! really looking forward to seeing how all your little ones develop :)

[BOBT00LS]

Pat

No, I wasn't there...but I know people ;)

Drew, the double dark angel you refer too of mine is one of the reasons I am pursuing this cross, to see if it wold produce more like her.

Rick

Hello Rick. Is the double dark angel the one I think it is ?

Bob

[nc0gnet0]

Hello Rick. Is the double dark angel the one I think it is ?

Bob

yes it is Bob, the one I got from you and rodrigo. ;)

Rick

[BOBT00LS]

You have done a nice job growing out that discus. I will be watching closely to see how you make out.


Bob

[Rod]

Looking good Rick. Are they all pigeon's?

[nc0gnet0]

Rod,

At this time I cannot conclusively say either way. I can identify some of the fry as being pb's but not all of them. It might have helped if I had ever raised blue diamonds (I haven't) to have a baseline to compare too.

Rick

[Rod]

No worries Rick :) i couldn't tell from the pic either, i'll ask again in a week or 2.

[nc0gnet0]

10 days

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/dated3.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

8/10

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/DABD.jpg

[Skip]

nice rick!!!!!!

[nc0gnet0]

Two weeks...Had to pull mom and dad yesterday:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/orange2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/orange.jpg

And Rod, to answer your question I beleive them to be all PB's meaning the Dark angel is homozygous for the PB gene. Also suprised at the amount of red in the dorsal and anal regions at this stage.


Rick

[Rod]

Two weeks...Had to pull mom and dad yesterday:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/orange2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/orange.jpg

And Rod, to answer your question I beleive them to be all PB's meaning the Dark angel is homozygous for the PB gene. Also suprised at the amount of red in the dorsal and anal regions at this stage.


Rick

Hi Rick,

They look really good.

Yes, i agree. Homozygous for the pigeon gene. Will be interesting to see how similar they are to dark angel. I don't think that red will last long, as soon as the secondary color comes in it will cover it over.

Rod

[DiscusDrew]

That is what happened with my batch, and VERY quickly, as in within two weeks from where this batch is now. Was wondering if that may play out differently given the cross but I assume it will not. Still looking great Rick and again, its awesome to have these batches to compare against eachother as they develop and to learn more about this strain and its potential.

Good to see you around Rod, getting your input on these things is invaluable.

[TNT77]

Rick if you want to sell some of these let me know I would be interested in a group to see how they grow out.

[dpete9]

Hi Rick,


Yes, i agree. Homozygous for the pigeon gene.

Rod

Hi Rod & Rick,
Can you please tell me how you know they are the pigeon gene when they are so small? The only way I would ever now at that size if i saw peppering in which case I don't see.
They look perfect!

[nc0gnet0]

Hi Rod & Rick,
Can you please tell me how you know they are the pigeon gene when they are so small? The only way I would ever now at that size if i saw peppering in which case I don't see.
They look perfect!

Thanks. First tell tale sign is there is no variation in types of fry, each and everyone looks like the other. If the DA was heterozygous for the pb gene, only 50% of the fry would be pigeon bloods, and as a result you would see two different types of offspring.

Rick

[dpete9]

Ok so I think i am following this. You know that she was crossed with a pigeon blood to make the Dark Angel and Pigeon is dominant. If she would have been Heterozygous meaning only half pigeon gene than half the young would be Heterozygous for pigeon and the other half would be non pigeon. But since she is Homozygous all the offspring are the same.. Heterozygous for pigeon.. (I just used the pungent square thing to figure that baby out). Am I getting this right?

[nc0gnet0]

Ok so I think i am following this. You know that she was crossed with a pigeon blood to make the Dark Angel and Pigeon is dominant. If she would have been Heterozygous meaning only half pigeon gene than half the young would be Heterozygous for pigeon and the other half would be non pigeon. But since she is Homozygous all the offspring are the same.. Heterozygous for pigeon.. (I just used the pungent square thing to figure that baby out). Am I getting this right?

Yup

[dpete9]

I love this place.. Learning new things every day..

[nc0gnet0]

Tara,

Are you looking for some fry for the contest or are you looking to aquire some at a later stage of developement. If so what size? I am not setup to ship (it is on my todo list). Whereabouts in Illinois are you located? To you ever make it near SW Mi?

Rick

[Rod]

Ok so I think i am following this. You know that she was crossed with a pigeon blood to make the Dark Angel and Pigeon is dominant. If she would have been Heterozygous meaning only half pigeon gene than half the young would be Heterozygous for pigeon and the other half would be non pigeon. But since she is Homozygous all the offspring are the same.. Heterozygous for pigeon.. (I just used the pungent square thing to figure that baby out). Am I getting this right?

Respect man, well done! It really isn't that difficult, just gotta get the gist of the rules. Genetics has great predictive power once you understand the basics. :)

[dpete9]

Respect man, well done! It really isn't that difficult, just gotta get the gist of the rules. Genetics has great predictive power once you understand the basics. :)

Ha Thanks.. fascinating stuff.

[TNT77]

Tara,

Are you looking for some fry for the contest or are you looking to aquire some at a later stage of developement. If so what size? I am not setup to ship (it is on my todo list). Whereabouts in Illinois are you located? To you ever make it near SW Mi?

Rick
I am just interested in the cross. I'm hoping they will turn out like I think they will. Maybe I can pick some up from you when we go to the meeting on Oct? I live 4 1/2hrs from you and lol I always end up driving in the opposite direction if I go anywhere.

[nc0gnet0]

Yes you live 4 1/2 hours from me true, but I do make it down to the Benton Harbor/St Joe/ New Buffalo area quite often, which is more like 2 hours away from you.

Rick

[TNT77]

Yes you live 4 1/2 hours from me true, but I do make it down to the Benton Harbor/St Joe/ New Buffalo area quite often, which is more like 2 hours away from you.

Rick
Thats still around 3+ hours one way depending on the area. I might be able to make a roadtrip your way next Monday.

[nc0gnet0]

I'm hoping they will turn out like I think they will.

I have been meaning to ask you, what do you think they will turn out like?

rick

[TNT77]

I have been meaning to ask you, what do you think they will turn out like?

rick
I think they will have alot of blue peppering but I also believe the white should have a blueish sheen to them. I could be wrong how this batch turns out but Its what I saw with a wb & bd cross once.

[nc0gnet0]

Like the fish in your avatar? :)

[TNT77]

Like the fish in your avatar? :)
He actually had a really white base under the blue. These had almost like a blue pearl sheen over the white then the blue peppering ontop of that.
Your female dark angel has like a pearlish sheen that reflects back different colors back in varying light. One thing I noticed at NADA. The female wb from the pairing Im talking about had that also. Makes me wonder if the same thing will happen in this spawn.

[nc0gnet0]

3 week update. Preparring to select my 30 contest fish and move them to their own 40 gallon growout tank. This will be something a bit new for me as I usually work with groups larger than 30 at this stage. I will do my first cull at this point (as I am moving them) as well.

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/3weeks1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/3week2.jpg

Currently feeding them Al's FDBW's, cobalt flake food with pro-biotics, and BBS. They are seen in the pictures eating both the flake and the BBS. Normally I might have them completely off BBS at this stage, but as I have another tank with younger fry they are getting the leftover BBS.

Rick

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/dabd2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/daxbd1.jpg

[Eddie]

Awesome looking group Rick!

[nc0gnet0]

Ok, the fry are starting to show some of the expected color.....here comes the blue:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/dabd-1.jpg

[Eddie]

Nice!

[nc0gnet0]

Still going strong:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0219.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0220.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0222.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0225.jpg

[Eddie]

Awesome shape!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/9-17-bd2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/9-17-bd.jpg

These guys just got a tank upgrade today and where a bit timid, so I dropped in a few cubes of Al's FDBW's and well you see the results. Currently in a 40 gallon with 36 watt UV.

[rdiscus]

Good great ... they need few more few cubes of FDBW's :o

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-9-23-2_zpsa2fcd67c.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-9-23-1_zps636a770b.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-joiXho7FQs
Still going strong, nothng new to report, no deaths. Camera does tend to wash out the blue sheen this little guys have.

[Eddie]

Nice!

[DLFL]

Those are looking great!

Dick

[nc0gnet0]

TWO MONTH UPDATE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gXZMioD4v8c

And the all important measurement ;)

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0276.jpg

This is just a random fish I could net quickly, he is not the biggest nor the smallest but a good representative of the batch. I will be selecting my eight this week from this batch of thirty. Two months and just slightly over 2".

[rdiscus]

That's great size for 2 month fish ...

[DLFL]

This batch is doing great also.

[nc0gnet0]

That's great size for 2 month fish ...

thanks!

[Eddie]

Awesome job!

[Rarelyseriousb]

I want one lol

[Cosgrovb]

Rick what is the expectation as to how the fry will turn out at maturity?

[Oscarsx]

That's very good growth, jelly!

- oz

[Poco]

Very nice shape and growth! Well done.

[John_Nicholson]

Not bad for a beginner....LOL.

Thay are looking damned good.

-john

[nc0gnet0]

Week 9

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-3.jpg

[Second Hand Pat]

Man they look good Rick. Handsome fry indeed.

[Oscarsx]

I might of missed it, but can you share your feeding, wcs schedule?

- oz

[oldfar]

Got some winners here.

[Eddie]

Awesome shape on these...impressive.

[nc0gnet0]

I might of missed it, but can you share your feeding, wcs schedule?

Water changes 2 x a day one of 85% the other at least 50%

Feeding Al's FDBW, super beef heart flake from inland empire discus, cobalt flake, nls growth pellets.

this tank has a 36 watt UV, the others don't yet.

Rick

[rdiscus]

Super nice color and shape ...

[DLFL]

Again some great fry!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 10

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-14-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-14-2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-14-3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-14-4.jpg

[Cosgrovb]

Rick - do you think a quarter will have the BD color, a quarter will have Dark Angel color and the other half something else? And what do you predict that something else will look like?

[Eddie]

Damn dude, all of your pups look great!

[Poco]

Very nice, I would love to have them in my tank.

[nc0gnet0]

Rick - do you think a quarter will have the BD color, a quarter will have Dark Angel color and the other half something else? And what do you predict that something else will look like?

I really have no idea lol they are looking like a more subdued version of a Dark angel, the pink is fading and the backgound body color apears to be a pale blue where a Dark angel is a pinkish white, but it is way to early to tell with juvies this age how they will turn out.

[Cosgrovb]

Are a quarter BD (maybe too hard to tell at this age)

[DLFL]

I would be proud to have those!!!

[DiscusLoverJeff]

They look awesome Rick.

Very good job raising them.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 12

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-21-5.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-21-4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-21-2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-21-10.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-21-11.jpg

[rdiscus]

They look awesome

[shoveltrash]

They're really looking good!

[nc0gnet0]

Just a reminder.....this batch is now 3 months of age and updates will be bi-weekly. To date I have had zero deaths from the fish I picked for the contest, This includes when I first culled down to the original thirty and then when I culled down to the final eight. I do still have roughly 150 fry/juveniles (separate from the final eight) in two other tanks. I have had two deaths (not including culls) from these two batches. I consider these incidental as none of the other fry/juveniles experienced any signs of sickness. I did have roughly 6 belly sliders and a few with abnormal fins/gill plates that had a date with the in-sink-r-ator.

Water changes: Usually 2x a day of at least 50%. A lot of this depends on my schedule/work. Typically I feed them a moderate feeding just before I leave for work(FDBW). When I get home from work, I feed them a heavy feeding (BH flake from Inland empire) and wait approximately 45 minutes and then do a 80% water change. They then get another feeding after all my water changes are done(usually a pellet). Just prior to the second water change they will get a light feeding again of FDBW's and then another water change of 25-50%. NO feedings after the last water change as I like to keep the water as clean as possible as it will be a period of time before the next water change and at least this way in the morning they still have relatively clean water before I leave for work.

The only exceptions to this routine occur during the weekend when it is possible to perform a water change in the AM. When this is possible they get a heavier feeding in the morning and one more light feeding at noon.

[Eddie]

These are a nice mix. Great work

[nc0gnet0]

Week 14

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-4-5.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-4-4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-4-3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-4-2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-4-1.jpg

[Cosgrovb]

Getting nice color.

[Eddie]

Nice shape and color!

[DLFL]

Very nice shape.

[nc0gnet0]

Ok Drew here is my 15 week photo with measurement. These guys are starting to get some nice red eyes on them.

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/15weeks-1.jpg?t=1352860836

This was him at 8 weeks:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0276.jpg

[Altum Nut]

They look mighty promissing from this end Rick.
As mentioned...very nice shape and color.
For a second, i thought laying on that strainer you were dropping him in the deep fryer.

...Ralph

[DLFL]

Looking very nice!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 16

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-18-4.jpg?t=1353290397

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-18-1.jpg?t=1353290394

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-18-2.jpg?t=1353290398

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-18-3.jpg?t=1353290399

[Eddie]

Looking great and nice color.

[DLFL]

Very nice fish.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 18

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-3-1.jpg?t=1354515154

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-3-2.jpg?t=1354515163

[hedut]

wow beautiful

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Very nice looking Juvies you got there. Good color too.

Might need to do a road trip to Grand Rapids.

[rainforestexperience]

beautiful fish! Look forward to continue watching these guys grow

[DLFL]

They are great looking fish. Did you get any BD's from this cross?

[Jeff O]

They look beautiful! Great Job!

[Trier20]

Rick these guys are looking great! You calling them "Blue Angels"?

[brewmaster15]

Excellent work so far Rick!!

Very nice shape and color developing on this group!
-al

[nc0gnet0]

Week 20

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-16-5.jpg?t=1355712252

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-16-1.jpg?t=1355712250

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-16-2.jpg?t=1355712256

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-16-3.jpg?t=1355712259

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-16-4.jpg?t=1355712259

[Eddie]

Biggins! Nice work!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 22

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-30-6.jpg?t=1356846546

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-30-1.jpg?t=1356846540

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-30-3.jpg?t=1356846549

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-12-30-4.jpg?t=1356846555

[Len]

Very nice colour development.

[timvriens]

Very nice fish, I love the color

[bornlooser]

Do you feed anything special to bring out the blues?...no offence...great looking fish.

[Wjmulder]

Wow! Those are really nice!!

[Brokenrack]

Comming along very niceley!

[Trier20]

I'm really starting to dig these guys ALOT!

[jawfish]

great job, I like these guys a lot !!!!

Fred

[Larry Bugg]

The color is interesting but you do a really great job of growing out discus Rick!!

[Bud Smith]

high quality discus - color will be amazing when they are adults - very nice cross

[Eddie]

Look great!

[Cosgrovb]

Love the shape and size on these guys. Interested to see the true colors as they mature further...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/01/e5yzytyz.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/01/rame4yve.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/01/tu6e9enu.jpg

[kimbo]

Wow just gorgeous!

[DLFL]

Great fish!

[Rod]

Looking really good Rick. :)

[hillbillyamber]

Are there any for sale?

[a volar]

Nice cross Rick!

[Jeff O]

Wow.. These are truly BEAUTIFUL. Great Job growing them out so far.. Cant wait to see them at 7'!!
Please send me a PM if you have any others from these parents for sale.
-Jeff

[nc0gnet0]

Week 24


http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0606.jpg?t=1358030655

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0607.jpg?t=1358030679

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_0600.jpg?t=1358030664

[Trier20]

These are fantastic Rick!

[a volar]

Rick, How big they are now? are you shipping?

[Eddie]

Very nice!

[Wjmulder]

Pictures don't do them justice, they look purple in my tank! Thanks Rick!

[nc0gnet0]

Pictures don't do them justice, they look purple in my tank! Thanks Rick!

Thanks Bill and it was nice to meet you. Hope your fish are doing well! Lighting is everything with the Dark Angels.

Rick

[nc0gnet0]

Week 27

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-2-2-3_zpsf0b41964.jpg?t=1359834027
^ since Skip already named a fish Bubba, I am going to name this one Brutus^
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-2-2-1_zps5b8a1236.jpg?t=1359834023

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-2-2-2_zps7f818c4a.jpg?t=1359834031

A few of these are starting to fill in with blue color. Hoping to get a few solids out of the batch.

[Jeff O]

beautiful! Keep up the great work.
-jeff

[kimbo]

Good golly they are gorgeous!

[fisher]

great work .............. A magical world ...... in every new cross

[Wjmulder]

Looking good Rick!

[nc0gnet0]

Week 29


(just over 5")
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-2-18-3_zpsedc01af1.jpg?t=1361244907

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-2-18-1_zpsb76f402e.jpg?t=1361244909

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-2-18-2_zps2d4037e1.jpg?t=1361244915

[Chicago Discus]

Very pretty great color and nice growth........Josie

[nc0gnet0]

Thanks Josie, I only have two that size the others are at 4-4.5". The second was'nt being very photogenic this time around and I gave up.

[Chicago Discus]

Thanks Josie, I only have two that size the others are at 4-4.5". The second was'nt being very photogenic this time around and I gave up.


LOL...that's the story of my life I can never get them to take good photos so that's why I just make the videos I gave up...Josie

[Larry Bugg]

Looking great Rick.

[Second Hand Pat]

These guys are gorgeous Rick. I have not been paying much attention to the contest threads. Love the color on these guys and they are huge.

[Wjmulder]

Growth is amazing!

[flexo248]

looks awesome... let me know when u r selling.... :)

[nc0gnet0]

Week 32

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-3-9-8_zpsf7d7f60b.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-3-9-7_zps1e2f5290.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-3-9-4_zps4e8e7bbd.jpg

[DLFL]

Very nice!

[Berylla]

Going through this thread for the first time. It's a treat to see the fish grow from wigglers to large juvies. They are very beautiful. Thanks for sharing.

[BODYDUB]

Whoa, I love the colors on those fish. I've never seen anything like that before, almost like a chameleon. LMK if you decide to sell any............

[Chicago Discus]

The color on these discus are interesting I have never seen anything like it. Great discus love the color ......Josie

[the20tonknuckler]

Beautiful fish.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 34

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-3-24-1_zpsea328d09.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-3-24-2_zpsc16eaca9.jpg
As time go's by the blue on these guys is getting deeper and covering more and more of thier body. This is what I had hoped would happen with this cross. Hopefully, when they are full grown they will be nearly solid.


Rick

[Jeff O]

Love the color! The deep blue almost gives it a purple sheem! Great job with them.
-Jeff

[a volar]

They are really nice Rick, what if they don't get solid blue, and they stay like that in color? will you have created a new strain? :)

[Bud Smith]

Rick - I really like the color combination - deep blue with the lighter color for high lights fantastic
Really nice color combination - excellent breeding program on these guys

[DiscusLoverJeff]

They are looking better every week Rick. Excellent job.

[DLFL]

These are great looking fish.

[nc0gnet0]

Week 36

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-6-1_zps24162d8e.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-6-2_zpsf7cc6103.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-6-3_zps598c2ad8.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-6-4_zps88e9b674.jpg

[coty]

looking great!! very nice fish, rick....

[Wjmulder]

Great coloring! How big are they?

[Kal-El]

Amazing colors and shape... +1 on how big at they now...

[nc0gnet0]

The biggest are a little over 5" with some of the smaller ones at 4", give or take. Growth rate starts to slow a little at this stage IME.

Rick

[lizziotti]

I've been watching all your different x's and they are all so beautiful.I really wish you'd start selling and shipping them!:)

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[BODYDUB]

God I want one..................

[flexo248]

i love to have one too.... :)

[Chad Hughes]

Rick,

They look amazing brother! GREAT job!!

[CrazyAngels]

Normally I haven't been much for Dark Angels, but the combo from these two is awesome. I could see a nice tank full of them...

[DONTKNOWYET]

They really look amazing. My favourite ones so far. What a great job!!!

[nc0gnet0]

Weak 39

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-28-5_zpse3a26ac2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-28-4_zpse733e519.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-28-3_zpsc85232f5.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-28-2_zpsbb04b850.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-4-28-1_zpsbe42a0b9.jpg

[DLFL]

Going to be some nice fish.

[coty]

very nice fish!..

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-12-5_zps97f8e47d.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-12-6_zps8e1f7936.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-12-7_zpsaaf9cf2a.jpg



couple of pictures without flash, these tend to be a bit blurry but give a better idea or real color:

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-12-9_zps8c84023e.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-12-8_zpsb7c3f726.jpg

[DLFL]

What pretty fish! Love the dark blue color.

[blueluv]

Man! Those are some sweet looking dark angels. The blue diamond is my absolute favorite strain of discus.

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-27-5_zpsc64e7c69.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-27-3_zpsc78da343.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-27-2_zps04e4ccb0.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-5-27-1_zpsfc60ac87.jpg

[Cosgrovb]

The shape and color these fish are wonderful! Keep up the good work.....

[DLFL]

Very nice!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1567_zpsf7ee3763.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1565_zps6ead2fcd.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1563_zps60a6e390.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1562_zps408843d4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1560_zps8ddee327.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1538_zpsbd8cb847.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_1510_zps9e1cbcb2.jpg

Largest is now 6".

[Bud Smith]

Rick - excellent cross - the blue has developed very well - great job

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-6-23-1_zps7cd82af1.jpg

[0Dgreen]

Very cool looking fish...when are they up for sale :p

[zachrabbit15]

Great looking fish. Wanting to do a similar cross but use a Forrest Neon Sapphi re and a Hans Dark Angle

[dkeef]

Awesome accomplishment.

[chaoslite]

Rick,

These fish keep getting better and better.

Mishka

[Eddie]

Nice group, great color.

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-7-15-1_zps3f4e9bcb.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-7-15-2_zps488fccc4.jpg
A pair is forming
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-7-15-3_zps81fa0568.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-7-15-4_zps715bacfc.jpg

[nc0gnet0]

Starting to have my first real issues with the contest. I have a few pairs forming, one in batch 1 the other in batch three, and the aggression is getting bad. Might have to put a few pairs into thier own tanks soon. This short video will give you some idea of what I am talking about, although it gets much worse than this at times.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=W6lYDIvn6UQ

[BODYDUB]

You can send me some to put in my tank..................

[Kal-El]

Love the blue, purple, and yellow on some of those... Amazing...

[Chicago Discus]

Rick I really like these fish the color is off the hook .......great job my friend.....Josie

[nc0gnet0]

Rick I really like these fish the color is off the hook .......great job my friend.....Josie

Thanks Jose, next I am going to see what happens when I cross them with a Blue SS.

Rick

[discusmat]

Wow holy crap man those discus are stunning!

[nc0gnet0]

Wow holy crap man those discus are stunning!

Thanks! I thnk I am going to name these:

Super Majestic Ultra Rare F1's-Blue Krystal Diamonds........

[roclement]

Thanks! I thnk I am going to name these:

Super Majestic Ultra Rare F1's-Blue Krystal Diamonds........


No....just call them Chuck Norris Blues...nothing can beat Chuck Norris!

Rodrigo

[chaoslite]

Thanks! I thnk I am going to name these:

Super Majestic Ultra Rare F1's-Blue Krystal Diamonds........

Ok but I am just calling them SMURF's for short.

Mishka

[yim11]

LOL

[Discus-Hans]

Nice job Rick, think I've to send Stendker that movie lol. Maybe soon I got an other Discus on my list, think I will call them here .......... Ricks lol lol

Hans

[nc0gnet0]

Nice job Rick, think I've to send Stendker that movie lol. Maybe soon I got an other Discus on my list, think I will call them here .......... Ricks lol lol

Hans

Hans,

Stendker will go broke selling discus like that....don't you know the more syllables you have in the name, the more money they are worth?

Rick

[discusmat]

As they are blue and white like a shark. I would name them Great Whites.
ya know great white shark=king of the ocean
great white discus=king of the aquarium.

[Discus-Hans]

Okay how does Blue Blushing Red Nose Angel Rick's sound lol lol although I like the S.M.U.R.F from Mishka

Hans

[nc0gnet0]

Okay how does Blue Blushing Red Nose Angel Rick's sound lol lol although I like the S.M.U.R.F from Mishka


lol,

Although Mishka figured it out (and right over Ringo's head) acronyms are Jim's specialty.......lol

Rick

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-3-3_zpsd23f6a20.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-3-5_zpsf2da16c3.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-3-7_zps941fe62f.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-3-4_zpsccc21d60.jpg

[Discusdude7]

How big are these now?

[Wjmulder]

Still my favorite of your contest fish, love the face coloring!

[nc0gnet0]

How big are these now?

About 6" total Length (this includes tail). If you look at the video in post 184 that is an Ati Hydro V I am using as a pre-filter to my UV unit. The Ati Hydro V is 5.5" in diameter.


Still my favorite of your contest fish, love the face coloring!

Thanks Bill, it is about the closest thing to a purple I have seen on a discus to date.

Rick

[bobdon]

Bruce Lee

[bobdon]

Nice colors!

[camuth8]

Growing well and coloring up nicely!:)

[DLFL]

Such nice colored fish!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-11-2_zps20c05e4e.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-11-5_zpsf261fa90.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-11-4_zps9462f872.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-8-11-3_zps7522e085.jpg

[Bilbo]

Insane blue coloring. Finally, after ALL my searching for an intensely blue fish, I find them in a contest thread, lol. Ok, would you like the address on where to send these?

[coty]

SO GREAT LOOKING!!!LOOKING BETTER EVERY DAY...JUST LOVE THEM..

[Nick Klimkowski]

Awesome Blue Diamond. More pics? Nick

[musicmarn1]

Ok that...is getting exciting!! Makes me want to enter when I grow up :)



Week 9

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-4.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-1.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-2.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-7-3.jpg

[musicmarn1]

+ 1

Haha I wAs thinking the same thing! Wow soooo blue, I really want a couple


Insane blue coloring. Finally, after ALL my searching for an intensely blue fish, I find them in a contest thread, lol. Ok, would you like the address on where to send these?

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-9-2-5_zpse19869fb.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-9-2-6_zpsaf2bd005.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-9-2-8_zps7459ab14.jpg

[Bud Smith]

Rick - you have a excellent cross here - color pattern and the intensity of color are excellent - what are the future plans for this cross?

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-6-7_zps349eefec.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-6-6_zps5f56502d.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-6-5_zpsfcf1776d.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-6-4_zpsb052bd49.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-6-3_zps208aba71.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-6-2_zpsccf6305c.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-6-9_zpscf704c42.jpg

[DiscusLoverJeff]

Interesting cross for sure Rick.

The dark angel has pigeon gene Rick?

[DLFL]

I bet this cross is now being tried in many fish farms! Beautiful colors.

[nc0gnet0]

Interesting cross for sure Rick.

The dark angel has pigeon gene Rick?

Yes, the dark angel, at least the one I had, is homogenous for the pb gene.

-Rick

[Allwin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksLCp37DHp4

Q share, Mr.Stendker telling few words on Dark Angel..

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-19-1_zpsd863e474.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-19-2_zpse50d4ff0.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-19-4_zpsa9f544ac.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-10-19-2_zpse8590f29.jpg

[pastry]

Rick, that's just a coooool freak'n cross. I haven't seen anything else like that. Awesome awesome awesome

[Discusdude7]

I love those purple faces. Great job with this cross!

[bir123]

Nice fish

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[OC Discus]

"Dark Knight"


As they are blue and white like a shark. I would name them Great Whites.
ya know great white shark=king of the ocean
great white discus=king of the aquarium.

[OC Discus]

What are the ones you have sold going for? What kind of variety are you getting from the other 150? Please post some pictures of the others

[Wildcaught dutchman]

Really nice fishes with a fantastic colours.How many discus you have from this pair??Only these six or 150 more like OC Discus said??:confused:

[nc0gnet0]

Do you really think I have 150 6" discus? LOL, sorry guys the non contest fish were sold some time ago.

-Rick

[bir123]

What dimension aquarium you have your pairs in

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[DiscusAB]

Thanks! I thnk I am going to name these:

Super Majestic Ultra Rare F1's-Blue Krystal Diamonds........

Super Majestic Ultra Rare F1's-Blue Krystal Diamonds???? LOL@ the name

the name will sound super awesome if this was yu gi yo. muahahahaha

but damn the fish look good in the video.

[Rudustin]

Beautiful babies from great parents. I have a Dark Angel and a pair of Stendker Blue Diamonds. Hmmmmmm!!! I wonder if I could try that combination. It has crossed my mind and now it seems that the possibilities are endless. Great job and great fish. Congrats.

[Gixxert]

Wow Rick, The color of these is insane. I love them....great job!

[BODYDUB]

God I love your fish!!! Send me one!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[john2666]

The Dark Angel is an awesome example.!!!

[nc0gnet0]

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-26-1_zps158f29d1.jpg
http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1-11-26-2_zps7f90e99f.jpg

[Cosgrovb]

Love the eye. The eyes of these fish have not garnered an appropriate response. Great red eyes!


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[nc0gnet0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gBzJGckMYO4

[nc0gnet0]

Male

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1final_zps69d1b160.jpg

Female

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/b1final2_zps4cb7abae.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_2139_zps4634389b.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_2137_zps41b0d047.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_2136_zps5a2bf9b7.jpg

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/100_2135_zps0d651e76.jpg

[Nick Klimkowski]

Thay really did turn out nice.

[OC Discus]

Will those reproduce 100% like them? They look nice. If its a new strain you could call them Blue Angels.

[Cosgrovb]

I think Rick has applied for a copyright on the name SMURF discus!

Lol :)


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[mitmil]

10 days

http://i567.photobucket.com/albums/ss118/nc0gnet0/dated3.jpg

Hello Rick,
I purches 15 disc last winter/spring in Caledonia. I have one that looks very simular to this one. It was about 50 cent size when I got them.
The one I got is the largest of the one I purchased. I had never had Disc prior to that and I have really enjoyed them. I had a 45 gal tank when I got them and now have them in a 150 gal.
Thank you for the introduction