Rounds 2 and 3

[Len]

I went home today for lunch (more to check my tanks) and first discovered that the pair separated from the rest in the 130 G had laid again. I walked into the other room and realized that one of the pairs in the 77G also laid. I'll try to get pics tonight.

[Larry Bugg]

WOW, excellent news!! Congrats.

[Second Hand Pat]

:o

[Poco]

Congrats! You will have your hands full in few days :D

[rdiscus]

Wow, happy lunch ... did you eat? :o

[Eddie]

Nice!

[Moon]

Forget lunch. Look after your discus.
Good luck Len

[Len]

Thanks all, I rarely eat lunch, but it's a good excuse to come home and check the fish lol.


http://imageshack.us/a/img831/5599/img5470wz.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img819/3527/img5472m.jpg

[Second Hand Pat]

Videos tonight maybe :o

[1oscar]

Congrats best lunch ever :)

[plecocicho]

Congrats, instant wild discus hatchery in the making.

[Len]

Spawn 2 for pair 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHh9ot31rHM


Spawn 1 for pair 2 (They are still watching the eggs even though they aren't viable)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdnpxj8P4oA

[Second Hand Pat]

Len, how are things this morning?

[Len]

Things still look good from what I could see. The only light on the tank were the dimmer ones because the main light hadn't switched on yet so all I could really make out walking by was that they were still sticking close to the spawning site. Last night, I did notice that far fewer of the eggs had turned white than last time, so that seems positive as well. I'll be going home at lunch to check again of course and will be able to see more by then.

The second pair are still watching the eggs that have all turned white, so I'll give them until this evening and if they don't clear them away by then, I'll suck them up with the hose diruing a WC like I did with the other pair and hope they lay again in a few days.

L

[Len]

Eggs are all gone. I doubt they would have hatched that quickly and got moved so I guess I'll have to wait and see if they lay again.

L

[Second Hand Pat]

:(

[Eddie]

Its all good Len, they'll come around. Practice makes perfect.

[Len]

I'm sure they'll figure it out, but they certainly aren't very bright because even though they appear to have eaten the eggs, they still rush over to the wood like they are protecting something when I walk by.

[Keith Perkins]

Pair 1 is very very nice Len. Hope you have much better luck with them next time.

[Keith Perkins]

It's been a couple of weeks Len, any news from the front?

[Len]

not really :( Both pairs laid last weekend and they watch guard and constantly move the wigglers, then they all disappear about the time they should go free swimming. I assume they are eating them. That makes 4 spawns for the first pair and 2 for the second pair. The first pair are acting like they are going to lay again but ....

[Keith Perkins]

Sorry to hear that Len, I remember those days OH so well. I drove my poor mentor Martha about nuts I'm sure when I was waiting for my fish to have their first successful spawn. Given any thought to trying pulling one of the parents to see if you can figure out who the culprit is? I've never actually done it, but I've certainly thought about it.

[Len]

I hadn't thought of that, I just assumed something must be off but not sure what. If I can get my 90 up and running, it would give me more room to move them around and try things like that though.

[Keith Perkins]

My mind seems to think of everything, it's zeroing in on the right thing I struggle with. :)

[Len]

sure enough, pair one has another large spawn today.

[Second Hand Pat]

:o

[Len]

My mind seems to think of everything, it's zeroing in on the right thing I struggle with. :)

I guess we have that in common. :)

[Keith Perkins]

It's been a couple of weeks Len, any news from the front?

One day later...


sure enough, pair one has another large spawn today.

Maybe I need to ask about them more often.

[nc0gnet0]

What are the parents Len, It appears the male is a wild, but is the female a domestic?

Rick

[Second Hand Pat]

Both parents are wild Rick

[Len]

What are the parents Len, It appears the male is a wild, but is the female a domestic?

Rick

They were sold to me as Manacapuru blues, but then it was pointed out that that isn't what they looked like at all and looked more cuipuras (bad spelling I know), which were the only other discus received by the supplier at the time. It was speculated that the wrong fish were sent to me, but either way I was happy. The females seem to turn that really bold red colour when spawning. The female of pair 2 is pretty much identical. As much as I like them, they are frustrating me lol. I guess though, I have to admit that several months ago I was frustrated when they wouldn't pair up and spawn, so I'm at least a step or two closer :)

[nc0gnet0]

Do you have any domestic pairs? Is it possible to pull one batch of eggs one time and let the domestics foster them?

Rick

[Len]

I would, but the only domestic fish I have is a Male Piwo red Turk. I had some advice tonight to increase my gh because it is almost non existent from the tap. I can measure with a meter and get about 43 TDS and about 90 ms from the cold water tap, but the chemical test (gh) doesn't show anything. Thoughts?

[Len]

I thought it was time for a new video so I just took this. It is pair 1 - fifth spawn and looks to be the largest spawn yet :)


http://youtu.be/JR5gtc8hRYo

[Poco]

5th time lucky perhaps

[Len]

I had hoped for that at #3 but they don't seem to have any intention to stop any time soon so I guess keep trying until I figure out what is going wrong.

[Len]

Keith,

Keep thinking about my fish!!! Pair 2 are laying in the other tank right now. This is actually getting funny.


One day later...



Maybe I need to ask about them more often.

[Keith Perkins]

Cool. I'm sure you're getting some excellent advice from down South, sure hoping at least one of the pairs makes it to the goal.

[Len]

I'm hoping too Keith. All advice is welcomed and in fact would be appreciated.

[Second Hand Pat]

Len, what about using something like RO Right or similar product to help boast the GH?

[Keith Perkins]

I'm hoping too Keith. All advice is welcomed and in fact would be appreciated.

I think the best advice I can give you is listen to the successful woman from the deep South.


Len, what about using something like RO Right or similar product to help boast the GH?

And there she is now.

[Second Hand Pat]

LOL Keith

[Len]

The closest thing I could find was cichlid chemistry, but it may be the same thing. It raises gh without changing ph. I'll try adding enough to bring the gh up to 50 or so once the eggs hatch (by chemical test)

[Second Hand Pat]

Crossing fingers Len ;)

[nc0gnet0]

0 gh-do you have a water softner? I thnk what you really need to measure is KH not GH.

[Len]

no water softener, that's straight city water. Why do you say raise kh instead of gh? I can raise either and have test kits for both, but am interested to know your reasoning.

[Keith Perkins]

Awesome, awesome, awesome...did I mention awesome? Very nice sight Len, and beautiful fish IMO. You and Pat may turn me into a WILD man yet.

[Len]

OMG, I forgot to mention Keith. He thinks about my fish or mentions them and they lay eggs for me :) Pair 2 laid again yesterday BTW :)

[rdiscus]

awesome color, the one carrying fry ...

Good job Len!

[Keith Perkins]

OMG, I forgot to mention Keith. He thinks about my fish or mentions them and they lay eggs for me :) Pair 2 laid again yesterday BTW :)

:D

So Len, how long until the avatar gets updated? I see a pretty little red in it's future.

[Len]

Good idea. I'll have to see about that today:)

[Keith Perkins]

Another one of my GREAT recommendations to your effort...chuckle, chuckle, chuckle.

Any guesses how many fry you have at the moment? I know that's a really tough question at this point. Looked like a nice medium size spawn by domestics standards.

[Len]

The 6th spawn progress from the beginning to date has been moved to

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showthread.php?100545-Wild-Blues-first-successful-spawn-round-6