Vintage Strain Development
One of the sponsors approached me a while back about the possibility of recreating one of the vintage US strains. Apparently the US was known once upon a time for having a palette of it's own strains. Many which retained some of their wild characteristics.
The recent spawning of my wild Tefe's has placed me in a unique situation to try and recreate the vintage RSG which apparently looked like a nicely spotted royal Tefe.
While it has been my goal to breed my wilds. Developing a strain places those goals at a whole new level with a multiple year commitment, dedicated tanks and totally different way of looking at my fish.
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So for this first year I will be raising the first generation of foundation stock using the two successful spawnings of my wild Tefe's. The first spawn is Batch A, approaching three inches and is four months plus old. The second spawning is Batch B and turned four weeks old today. Both spawns have the same mother but different dads. So here is my "eve" female.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/P1200044.jpg
and the dad of the Batch A
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/P1200041.jpg
Together on their first clutch of eggs.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/IMAG0842.jpg
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For the second successful spawn the female selected a different male and I call this spawn Batch B.
Female with her new beau.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...New_Pair-1.jpg
and the new mate.
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...pawn/Dad-1.jpg
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Be nice to see a picture of a fish that resembles what your ultimate goal is.
Rick
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cool project look forward to seeing the results.
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hi its great to see that more discus breeders are going along the line of trying to bring back the old colours.far to many discus keepers are not interested in the old type colours and thats a shame.i for one applaude the efforts of people like yourself for not getting sucked into the hype of the what i call the candy coloured discus scene.i love wild type discus and slowly more breeders are thinking the same way.good luck in your future breeding attempts.regards lawrence
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Very nice Discus, and a very nice thought/goal! I would love to see the "classics" again in the market, even though i live in Denmark. Mostly (in europe) we see the Red Turk(German) but the many other "old" strains has vanished, and has been replaced by lollipop discus. I really do believe that the strongest discus (minimum flaws, fast growth) is the "Nachtzuchten" (F1, F2, F3) and the non-inbred lines from these. I think you're project is of high appreciation for many Discus lovers as well for other breeders who wants "unspoiled" breeding material. The best of luck to you.
Sune
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nc0gnet0
Be nice to see a picture of a fish that resembles what your ultimate goal is.
Rick
Something like this Rick, from a Jim Quarles book...
http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/a...at/to_this.jpg
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schomin
cool project look forward to seeing the results.
Thanks schomin, keep in mind that is is a multiple year project especially working with wild greens who mature between 18 and 24 months.
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nevsfish
hi its great to see that more discus breeders are going along the line of trying to bring back the old colours.far to many discus keepers are not interested in the old type colours and thats a shame.i for one applaude the efforts of people like yourself for not getting sucked into the hype of the what i call the candy coloured discus scene.i love wild type discus and slowly more breeders are thinking the same way.good luck in your future breeding attempts.regards lawrence
Hi Lawrence, being a wilds keeper the domestic strains do not really appeal to me. You might appreciate this thread showing some of the classics (link below). Also many discus keepers today have never seen the older classic strains.
Pat
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...ast&highlight=
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Sune
Very nice Discus, and a very nice thought/goal! I would love to see the "classics" again in the market, even though i live in Denmark. Mostly (in europe) we see the Red Turk(German) but the many other "old" strains has vanished, and has been replaced by lollipop discus. I really do believe that the strongest discus (minimum flaws, fast growth) is the "Nachtzuchten" (F1, F2, F3) and the non-inbred lines from these. I think you're project is of high appreciation for many Discus lovers as well for other breeders who wants "unspoiled" breeding material. The best of luck to you.
Sune
Thanks Sune, appreciate that. What is the "Nachtzuchten"? You have any link you could share?
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Second Hand Pat
Thanks schomin, keep in mind that is is a multiple year project especially working with wild greens who mature between 18 and 24 months.
Yeah I figured it would be a while but, it will be worth sticking around to see how it goes.
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schomin
Yeah I figured it would be a while but, it will be worth sticking around to see how it goes.
Totally true since I am already raising the first generation.
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Honorable pursuit best of luck!
Scott
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Brokenrack
Honorable pursuit best of luck!
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