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The Pins and needles waiting for you to tell us more are not pleasant. Spill the beans, Pat.
Sweet!!
Pat, are you simply teasing us with photos, or are a pair of your wilds spawning, or have spawned ?
She does have a cruel streak!
Very nice looking pair Pat .
Please tease us some more :)
Ok guys, let me either relieve or create more stress. lol. First, this is not a pair. I have had them a week so there are two wilds in a 75. The one in the first picture and in the foreground of the second is a Uatuma semi-royal and the second is a very red Ipiranga. They have been eating but stuck to a corner the first week. Yesterday they decided I might be a trust worthy soul.
Later this week I will be receiving some more wilds, two of them were show fish from the 2018 NADA show. They are Manacapuru reds. One of them has this most wonderful blue cast on it's body. They sort of fell into my lap the morning the showroom as being dismantled. The original buyer walked away. More on these later. :D
Pat
Right, now she is turning the teasing up to 11, I am positively green with envy! Well done Pat, looking forward to the developments
I'm delighted for you, Pat. I know that you have been to get back into wilds for a good while. I can't wait to see pics of the new ones when they come in.
Makes me want to scrap the domesticated discus and go wild again
Again really happy for you they look stunning (trying to convince the wife who has always been more attracted to the flamboyant colours of the hybrids). Talking of hybrids, any idea what the prevailing opinions are in the hobby about crossing different strains of wilds? Just asking as with discus it seems to me it is perfectly acceptable and encouraged by many while with African cichlids the attitude is very much against it.
Three things. Discus species are genetically and evolutuonary quite close with quite a few natural hybrids between two species populations, so hybrids can be fertile for a lot of further generations. Second, the old strains like torquise discus varinats were hybrids. And third, the power of asian markets, where hybridsiation and other much worse practicies are not frown upon. You do find hybrids among the african great tectonic lake cichlids, most known are among Aulonacara species, most known is fire red. I prefer keeeping only one species of wild discus.
Thank Liz, me too. Should be later this week :D
Do it Lee :D BTW I am a bad influence :)
Not sure there are any prevailing opinions Paul. There does seem to be lots of wild/domestic crosses available. Of course no telling how far back the wild parent was. Now if you are referring to crossing two wilds from different locations not sure as I do not hear about that too much.
Pat
Awesome!!!! Can’t wait to see the rest. I was actually really close to NADA this year but had to work that weekend. I’ll be moving back west finally st the end of the yr and get my fish back. Looking to add more and maybe even upgrade the aquarium.
Very nice Pat...glad your back with some quality wild stock.
...Ralph
Pat
As in previous comments , nice looking fish, I glad that you are returning to work with wilds, again.
Season is about to start, let's see wha we can get this year.
Congrats on your new wilds Pat. I can’t wait to see the rest of them. Very very nice. I’ve been tempted to get the black sharpie out and put a black line around a few of my domestics. Ha ha
Patty
I hope that if you get some that approach the quality of the one in your avatar. They have to be pretty good they competed in the show.
We shall see Liz. The two wilds I got at the show are these. Pics are not mine but were taken by Ricardo.
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This wild is showing more of a blue overcast. Super excited to see how this fish develops
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Not to diminish the second one, but that first one is a stunner, Pat.
Here's a pic of the second wild I have in QT. It is really that red.
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These are gorgeous fish Pat! Congratulations for the new acquisitions. How many wilds you have at them moment? What are the tank sizes? And what projects you have in mind?
Hi Mauro, two ATM and soon eight after the ones from the show arrive next week. No new tanks but will be redoing the 230 to house the new guys after QT. I have two 75 and two 40 breeders I use for QT. Beside the 230 I also have a 180 and a 90 (both currently empty).
Pat
Was this one at NADA show ( the super red one) ? I really like it.
Pat you have some beautiful looking wild fish there...looking forward to seeing the new additions...on another note, is the discus on the right in NADA 2018 banner your former fish, the one shown in your avatar?
They are first class Pat and you deserve nothing less :) .
Those are some very nice wilds. One of these days i will have a wild tank again.
Sean
Both great Pat, congratulations. My favorite out of these two would be no1, love the shape and pattern. Will be a stunner once settled, looking forward to seeing the rest.
Tobi