Alenquer F1 x Nhamunda Blue Face Heckle

Several months ago Uncle Sam's Discus brought in a 2nd shipment of adult Alenquer F1's. As soon as I saw the first face book post I emailed Darwin and told him to put me down for another male and female. He emailed back and said they were all female. I went ahead and got 2 females. Around the same time I purchased a couple of Nhamunda Blue Face heckles and Cuipeua from John (Snookn21). About the same time Mark (Discus Origins) posted a couple of casual line Cuipeua Royals. I bought both of them. I only knew the sex of the 2 Alenquer F1's (female) so I put them both in with 1 blue faced heckle, the 2 Cuipeua Royals and 1 Cuipeua solid hoping that they were males and I might get pairs with the Alenquer's. It didn't take long for one of the Alenquer to appear to pair off with the Nhamunda. Then the Cuipeua solid appeared to pair off with one of the Cuipeua Royals which left the other Alenquer F1 with the other Cuipeua Royal. I put each pair in 40 breeders.

The Alenquer F1 with the Nhamunda has been acting like she wanted to spawn for about a week now. Today she finally did and the Nhamunda appears to fertilize the eggs. Time will tell.......


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2QYYIveTb4&t=20s

Really nice. Look forward to seeing those

Very nice Larry

Really sweet pair Larry. :)
Pat

beautiful. question, what do you call an F1 and pure wild cross? F1.5??

What should we see come from this pairing do you think Larry? Will you get a mix of heckles and alenquer or will it just be a blend of both?

This is really awesome! Congrats! Put me on the baby list :D

They are beautiful !! please post updates on this :) Do you mind asking where you bought the Alenquer from ?

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Originally Posted by sanjay21

They are beautiful !! please post updates on this :) Do you mind asking where you bought the Alenquer from ?

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first sentence of his post sanjay: it reads "Several months ago Uncle Sam's Discus brought in a 2nd shipment of adult Alenquer F1's"

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Originally Posted by jmf3460

first sentence of his post sanjay: it reads "Several months ago Uncle Sam's Discus brought in a 2nd shipment of adult Alenquer F1's"

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Oops ! I missed that :o
thanks Jacklyn ! I was just lost looking at those beautiful fish :)

Really cool. Good luck

Out of curiosity Larry how are those fish from the kingdom discus guy coming along.
Bet they're stunners. :)

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Originally Posted by jmf3460

beautiful. question, what do you call an F1 and pure wild cross? F1.5??

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If one parent is wild, the offspring is F1 again, no matter how many generations the other parent has been bred

Looks like this will make some stunning discus!!!!!

Simply gorgeous!

Well it took 4 spawns. The first three spawns had no fertilized eggs. Just checked and there are wigglers in the 4th spawn. Looks to be a small batch, maybe 25 or so, but they are now proven. Really looking forward to working with this pair.

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Very nice Larry

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Originally Posted by Ryan925

Really nice. Look forward to seeing those

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Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat

Really sweet pair Larry. :)
Pat

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Originally Posted by DomiDiscus

This is really awesome! Congrats! Put me on the baby list :D

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They are beautiful !! please post updates on this :) Do you mind asking where you bought the Alenquer from ?

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Originally Posted by Swedgin

Really cool. Good luck

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Looks like this will make some stunning discus!!!!!

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Simply gorgeous!

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Thanks for the compliments. I have big hopes for this pair. Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by Swedgin

If one parent is wild, the offspring is F1 again, no matter how many generations the other parent has been bred

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I have to disagree with this statement. It is my belief that F1 is only used when both parents are wild. It shows the fish being one generation away from wild and that isn't what you have with wc x F1. I have seen people use F1.5 but I don't believe that is really technically correct either. I would probably just show the off spring as wc x F1.

Please continue posting updates on the fry Larry :) They are stunning Discus would love to watch them grow.

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Originally Posted by Phillydubs

What should we see come from this pairing do you think Larry? Will you get a mix of heckles and alenquer or will it just be a blend of both?

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I believe that they will be primarily Alenquer looking discus but I hope that a percentage of them will show the heckle bar.

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Originally Posted by sanjay21

Please continue posting updates on the fry Larry :) They are stunning Discus would love to watch them grow.

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I will definitely post updates but first they have to go free swimming and attach.

And then find their way into my tank.....

Very nice Larry! Good looking pair!

Well 3 1/2 months after they first paired off and 6 weeks after the first wigglers, that were eaten, they finally have their first successful spawn. One thing I can tell you is if you want to work with wilds or F1's a great deal more patience is needed than with domestics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUWa8O4MVEk&feature=youtu.be

...very nice.....congrat's !

They look great Larry. Plenty of fry. Does the heckel show a halo?
Pat

congrats Larry. I've been watching this thread closely. i feel you on the patience comment. I'm currently on my 6th spawn with my wild caught green tefes, made it to wrigglers but no free swimming yet.

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Originally Posted by Larry Bugg

Well 3 1/2 months after they first paired off and 6 weeks after the first wigglers, that were eaten, they finally have their first successful spawn. One thing I can tell you is if you want to work with wilds or F1's a great deal more patience is needed than with domestics.

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Congratulations Larry and glad they worked out for you. Both parents are gorgeous as will the offspring once they fill out.

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Originally Posted by jmf3460

congrats Larry. I've been watching this thread closely. i feel you on the patience comment. I'm currently on my 6th spawn with my wild caught green tefes, made it to wrigglers but no free swimming yet.

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I'm confident your time will come Jacklyn :)

...Ralph

Thanks everyone!

Pat, not really much of a halo on the heckle.

Awesome Awesome Awesome Larry! Did I say it was Awesome! :) Very cool my friend! I cant wait to see them grow out. Nice job!

al

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Awesome Awesome Awesome Larry! Did I say it was Awesome! :) Very cool my friend! I cant wait to see them grow out. Nice job!

al

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Thanks Al. I appreciate the praise!! I can't wait to see them grow out also.