How has covid affected your stress levels?
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How has covid affected your stress levels?
Not anymore sense most of us here in Canada with 74% the second shot and 83% first shot. Here in Nova Scotia we had a good government that took the professional health care workers advice. Our numbers stayed low. The strict rules worked here. But seems to be 15-20% of the population that buck the system no matter what; they cause more stress than anything.
In Washington state the governor has mandated all teachers must wear masks as a condition of employment. It is that bad. I read hospitals is the state of Florida are over flowing with Covid patents. Third vaccinations may be necessary for all US citizens. We seem to be worst off than when the virus began and yet the US government by pushing to open up the economy seems to be choosing greed over lives.
My personal situation hasn't changed because I didn't go out much even before Covid. I always mask up when I'm out but that's no big deal to me. The majority of people in my State have not been vaccinated. The hospitals are all either full or close to full. The big medical center in Jackson has set up tents in the parking lot for overflow patients. I don't know when Mississippians will wake up and see the consequences of their inaction to prevent themselves from getting sick and transmitting the virus to others. Being at level 70 I'll be eligible for my booster in November.
I see patients in clinics in Florida and it is actually insane down here. Many people have not been vaccinated and simply will not. It is rare to see many people wearing masks in stores, hotels and restaurants.
I think most have anxiety but you have to have a modicum of self awareness in order to admit it to yourself.
I find it rather showing lack of great intelligences and common sense and there is a word for that. I have found that wearing masks has also cut way back on colds and flues this year. We would have never be allowed in a store or any other place without a mask. Our fines were big. On other thing during COVID how leaders worked together on the issue, no matter who you voted for.
Here in Ohio I don't know what else is going on I'm just like Liz in my 70's and staying out of the way of these selfish on vaccinated humans that only care about themselves. It's mostly mandatory masking in all establishments, I haven't heard about the school districts other than ours, and it's up to the school not the governor o Ohio. Who does De Santis think he is God? JMO Jim in Ohio
I'm on a family vacation in San Francisco. Perhaps because this was a hot spot in 2020, there's overwhelming mask compliancehere.
Every restaurant in town require masking unless you're eating and drinking. More than half of the people walking on the street are masked. Last night, we went to watch Hamilton and every member of the audience and every usher was masked. In addition, you had to show proof of vaccination to enter the theater.
I think this is the most likely scenario for the rest of the country.
Jim in Ohio, I am an Critical Care RN. I cared for Covid positive patient's all year last year. In fact, I volunteered to go in extra to admit the very 1st known covid positive patient that came to our ICU. I worked my 3 regularly scheduled shifts and did an extra 6 shift contract at our facility every schedule from March last year to this very day, sometimes working a 5th 12 hour shift due to high needs in our unit. I did all this knowing that the PPE was inadequate protection due to the size of viral particles, and in short supply. I did all this because I care about people's health and well being.
After caring for covid patients for over 1 year, I contracted covid 19 in late March this year. Fortunately for me, my symptoms were very mild, I believe because my immune response was/is strong. I have friends who have had severe reactions to the gene therapy shots, some of whom have been rendered completely unable to work, dependant on long term blood thinners. A lady my wife works with had her husband die of covid recently. When my wife asked her about whether people should be forced to get the gene therapy shot she said absolutely not.
Why do you suppose more than 50% of health care workers in Ohio have chosen not to be injected with this experimental gene therapy? I think that speaks volumes about the ligitimate concern of the actual health educated public. There are countless virologists and immunologists whose opinions are being ignored or silenced with regard to the covid gene therapy, natural and acquired immunity, etc.
I have adhered to masking policies, and social distancing not because of the science behind it, but because fear is driving so many of the decisions being made and I can (unselfishly) suck it up and wear a mask so others aren't afraid. Information has been made a political weapon. It's tearing this country apart.
Are you aware Jim, that under American law, medication that is listed as a vaccine removes any financial liability from the manufacturers for adverse effects that come about as a result of taking that medication? Now the government is wanting to mandate it. Families that have a lived one incapacitated or die get NOTHING, no financial assistance, they cannot sue. So if the gene therapy is as safe as you believe, according g to what you gave been told, why won't the manufacturers back that, call it what it truly is, a gene therapy. I am not against vaccines. I am up to date on every other shot. The fact that coronavirus passes back and forth from animals to humans means it is here to stay. It cannot be irradiated like small pox, cause small pox only hosted in humans.
There is so much more I want to say, but I'll finish with saying this, the fact that you would come on here and call me an "selfish unvaccinated" is highly offensive after the strain I have undergone over the past year in my chosen career.. Your comment is also completely untrue of me to be sure.
COVID has definitely peaked my stress level. I work in a 400-bed hospital and we had just converted one of our regular floor into a COVID/ICU unit. System wide, we have about 500 COVID-19 patients and most (80-90%) are unvaccinated and about 96% of ICU beds are occupied by unvaccinated. So yes, I'd think that vaccine do make a difference. There are multiple vaccines available and not all are mRNA (a technology that we have been worked on for over decades, not just developed recently). To say that these are gene therapies is absolutely baseless and unscientific. Anyone with a basic understanding of biology would know mRNA/vectors cannot alters DNA. Both Moderna and Pfizer vaccines were studied with clinical trials which powered by over 70,000 participants. To put in perspective, most if not all of our practice guidelines aren't backed by studies with these magnitudes. So yes, they are safe and effective. I'd say 70,000 participants is better than anyone's anecdotal evidences.
The biggest fight that we are losing is actually misinformation, especially ones coming from some of our health care providers. It's unfortunate that they chose conspiracies over evidence-based medicine.
So what is an alternative to the vaccine?
Regeneron is the drug that we use now for mild-moderate COVID patients. Bamlanivimab is no longer an option due to resistance with the latest strain. We can expect Regeneron will eventually be resistant to, if we continue to regress the way that we are.
For moderate to severe cases, we have...
Remdesivir: Well guess what? a recent study published in JAMA showed that it does not improve chance of survival and prolong hospital stay.
Tocilizumab (Actemra) an immunosuppresant that we use to treat rheumatoid arthritis with the side effects profile that will definitely frighten you. Anyways, manufacturers are beginning to restrict its distribution because we are simply running out of it.
And fresh out of the ACTT-II trial, Baricitinib, another immunosuppresant that we use to treat rheumatoid arthritis with the side effects profile that will DEFINITELY frighten you.
We also have a bunch of useless shits like melatonin, zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D. Things that will definitely put you at higher risk of co-infection like dexamethasone.
So please, get your shots.
@ XAnhLe :thumbsup:
Danny and XAnhLe, I have the upmost respect for what you guys do, have been though and I hate seeing the US in yet another covid surge. I have done my part and got vaccinated and yes, I wear a mask in public so hopeful I can stay out of the hospital and not be a spreader of this disease. So I do feel the way out of this pandemic is to get vaccinated and I think this pandemic will be here for a while.
TBH I feel the misinformation is killing us. Public figures who are not putting the public health of the people they represent as their top priority is dangerous and it's killing people IMO. I live in a state which is leading the covid surge and yes, not a good place to be. :(
January of this year I lost my mom to covid. I watched her die over Zoom so please, get vaccinated so you are not the person dying on a Zoom call or watch a family member die from covid.
Pat
XAnhle please do not insult me because I dissagree with your opinion and your science. Both Pfizer and ModeRNA freely acknowledge the use of mRNA to deposit memory in the cells to stimulate an immune response when covid is recognized in the body. J&J actually acknowledge the use of DNA strands to achieve the same goal, mRNA cell memory. It is claimed that none of these shots change a persons DNA as the conspiracy group claim, so don't lump everyone who disagrees with you into the conspiracy group. There are literally thousands of people smaterter than us on both sides of this argument.
The issue I have is with mandates. Both sides of the argument think they're right, but only 1 side wants to force the other to align with there opinion by mandating the shots. Trump gave us the shots,, and perhaps he would have imposed mandates as well,, we'll never know for sure. Like I said earlier though, t is misinformation to use small pox as a comparison, it's nothing like small pox because it only hosted in humans whereas coraonavirus is hosted in animals and humans, so it's here to stay like the flu. Every person deserves the right to examine the data and choose for themselves. There may not have been as many death from receiving the shot, but a significant enough number, combined with other debilitating outcomes, to cause concern for single income families like mine, and especially since there is no legal recourse or financial assistance should a severely debilitating outcome or death take place.
Whilst those that get the shot are less likely to get C19, it does not "prevent" the spread or reduce transmisability of the diseaae. In fact, if symptoms are lessened, one can reasonably assume a vaccinated person may spread C19 to others without knowing it. I' am not saying that is grounds for people not to get the shot, but merely food for thought. My elderly parents in Australia got the shot, and I fully support their decision to do so. My dad has COPD.
Being an Australian in the US I have basically resigned myself never to see my parents face to face again, so please don't think I have taken my position without a lot of consideration and research,, and with significant personal loss. I am a man of conviction and what I truly believe to be true will always direct my choices, even when the outcome is difficult and painful for me.
The idea that people who don't agree w mandatory shots are thoughtless,, selfish unscientific idiots is simply absurd.. The hate and the name calling is childish,, unnecessary and counter productive. There is always multiple sides to every story.
I'm gonna sign off on this thread now.
There are so many brilliant scientists, immunologists and virologists fighting the fight and informing us. Beats the crap outta me to see people challenging them or asserting their “rights”
Most have absolutely no clue as to how DNA and mRNA work to synthesize everything that we are - including an immune response. mRNA tells our DNA to activate our immune defenses.
DNA (JnJ) indirectly does the same thing.
This is how vaccines work and let’s all pray that either active infection ( to those unfortunate ) or vaccines of any type or for any disease, permanently allow our immune response - permanently - to fight off these horrible diseases
Dan you singled out Jim. Jim just stated how he feels with the info he’s been given. Reality is none of us really have a clue about this disease or the vaccines their giving. Look the next poster has already said your wrong. This is reality! People may have an idea of whats good or bad. They may say it’s a fact but me I’ve got no clue!! I let people make there own decisions. I’m not telling anyone to vaccinate or not. Me I did but am very unsure of my decision. I’m in New York and most here have vaccinated. But even they are now getting COVID and they now want us to get booster shots! First shots didn’t work?? Strange times here. Didn’t our president say a year ago everything should be closed? Not so much now! And who’s paying for the vaccine? Pharma’s footing the bill ? Because they want to help?? I don’t think so!!
Before the present white house pres. & vise prez. were elected they said they would not get the THRUMP vaccine!!!!!! Then they got into office & got there TRUMP VACCINE right away. What is the public supposed to THINK!!!! It was bad at first & then it was good??????
All this division is why our country doesn't work anymore. Everybody is fightin' mad. I'm so tired of it. I'm friends with people whose views on the vaccine are what I consider crazy. Wouldn't it be easier if we didn't fight to and just wanted to get along? I think I'll go outside and look at my flowers and butterflies and hummingbirds in front of a beautiful backdrop of White Oaks.
Tom I was merely showing Jim, since he called me selfish, the reasons to the contrary. I will never name call or direct hate towards people who disagree with me. Since he had the gall to express himself in that way, I chose to respond to him personally. The next poster said my position on the gene therapy is baseless, which the literature of the manufacturers clearly affirms it as an mRNA therapy, and then so affirmed captainandy, a medical Dr (who disagreeswith my position). But neither directly, or childishly attacked me. After the last 18 months of 60hour weeks caring for covid and non covid patients alike, Jim brought a little direct call out upon himself. There's a way to express ones position publicly without name calling and hate, which I have tried to model in my responses.
Is there no way I can get you ladies and gentlemen to stop this bickering?
I have more faith in us than you do Andy.
Folks a year ago we had no ammunition to fight this war on COVID-19 and saw no hope in sight. Now we at least have something. Obvious, not a complete cure but it is some hope. Especially, for those with compromised immune systems, elderly and chronic morbidity diseases, it can be a killer. We all can see this vaccine is working with a high degree of success. As we can see the numbers of C-19 in hospitalizations recently are greater in the unvaccinated. That's all it was meant for, to keep the numbers down so our health care systems wouldn't overwhelmed and to keep folks alive. We will all come across this bug sooner or later and I for one am glad to have better chance on not going to the hospital or the morgue. As far as adverse side effects, more people have reactions from peanuts or even other medications. I see no reason way anyone would be afraid to getting their free shot. Now we have the delta strain becoming, which is more dominate now and easier the spread and school is coming and we have no vaccines for those under 12; these are the ones that worry me the most. And of course we have many places were vaccines are not available yet. So we're here for a long haul, a bit lucky, so please get your shot.
Aside from my *** and gut getting fat, I honestly feel guilty for liking the remote work ( I feel like I work more yet there is somehow better communication now). But nothing beats flip flops, burning dress socks, shaving twice'ish a week, saving money on gas & deodorant, and doing business calls while minimizing tan lines with waaaaay too small if a speedo on (privacy fence of course... no one wants to see my "new bod" that needs to change... but a good tan makes people look skinnier -- in theory :P )
It's crazy to think about the misinformation that is currently spreading right now. Hopefully people get vaccinated and mask up.
The vaccine was approved yesterday. I sure hope it helps.
I was at the feed store today, masked as usual. The older gentlemen in front of me, also masked, was asking about Ivermectin. After he left I asked the guy behind the counter if he had sold any to people to use it against Covid 19. He said that all the people buying and calling about it these days were buying it for Coved. Ivermectin is an excellent antiparasitic but it does nothing against viruses. The salesman knew that as well as I did but it's an OTC med and if it's what people want for whatever reason it's not his job to refuse to sell it to them.
Love my flip flops
...and these strains now are spreading like wildfire. Last school year our county made kids go back... we were ticked off, but hardly any cases. NOW... after the first full week back to school (with exact protocols), kids and teachers are dropping like flies. In June I got FUBAR'ed by "something" and urgent care said "negative on test results... but, in our eyes you have it... but it's different and we're now seeing 15-20 a day like your case....". Few weeks later the "delta strain" blows up on the media. I was vaccinated... and whatever I had really raised havoc on me for 96 hours... then took 10 more days to really get back to 100%. I ALWAYS go into work when sick... but I've been 100% remote since March 2020 and cautious but still had to take off because of how bad it was. I never had anything like whatever it was. Get vaccinated... my recommendation. YES, it's a risk to get a vaccine that has not been truly run through the gammet... but folks without it are getting hammered worse. That's enough for me to be fine with my choice (...yet 10 years from now I might have one mishaped testicle, a 3rd eye, and turn purple... but I'll live with decision if it helps free a hospital bed up now for someone who has cancer or other serious condition that has to compete with COVID patients taking up beds. Even those trying to get pregnant yet worried... it's a risk, but it's also a risk NOT to get it. Make a decision and live with it. I can't fault anyone for taking both sides into account)
This what doesn't make sense to me, Folks are willing to put stuff into their body like Ivermectin vs a vaccine which has been tested in humans. In the feed store I bought Ivermectin for my horses. It's a dewormer paste used for treating internal worms. The dosage is for a 1000 pound animal, not a 150 or so pound human. There is no evidence that I know of that Ivermectin has been tested against covid in humans. BTW the Pfizer vaccine has full FDA approval as of yesterday.
Just my 2 cents here, a couple weeks ago I got something, with very similar symptoms as Covid, I am fully vaccinated too. What I had was not a cold and definitely not flu, took a Covid test, it was negative. I think the new strains are sometimes not showing up with the standard Covid test. Took me a few days to feel great again, but then back to 100% health. I do believe the vaccines are working great and if you get a breakthrough virus, it is mild and leaves fast.
Barb
Some folks, not all will get mild flu like symptoms from the vaccine after it starts working. I noticed this into about the 11th - 13th day on both shots. Felt a bit lethargic, runny nose and just not feeling myself. It lasted a day or two. I took it as the vaccine is working.
Way back before Delta, back when the virus first started spreading the owner of my LPS, Twee got sick. She was hospitalized, tested negative, sent home, got worse, taken back to hospital tested negative two more times and was finally given supplemental O2 and steroids. She finally got well enough to go home. Way later she had the antibody test. She was positive. Barb, the antibody test is something you might want to consider next time you see a doctor.
Lol way back before Delta! Yes we’re aging by strains now :). Funny all the testing that still isn’t right and they’ve been going on for well over a year and still getting mixed results. Got to make you wonder about the vaccine’s. Everything is just rushed out there. Is the whole world using the 3 we use in America?? Or is every country putting out there own? Just more to think about.
No test is 100% accurate. This includes the covid tests. I know that Russia has it's own vaccine as does China. Most of Europe uses the Covax vaccine. In the States we have 3 vaccines that are quite good, but like tests, none are 100%.
I agree with you, Fritz. I think that Danny is making a mistake by not being vaccinated, but he is doing all the other stuff like masking and keeping distance. It is a personal decision. He never attacked anyone when he said what you quoted. He had an unpopular view about something that people are very divided about. It was after all that that I started worrying about the way the thread was headed. So far everyone is being respectful. I expect it to stay respectful.
Thanks to all the nurses. There seems to be a lot of burnout these days. Thinking I could have been one of those; glad I'm retired. Hope they'll still enough left to care for the unvaccinated. Right now cases are going up again. I had a sense of duty to the public to get vaccinated for others as well as for me.
There will soon be travelling bar codes that can be loaded on cell phones to give folks that have been vaccinated the OK to travel. They are on there way here. I guess the rest will be staying home. Get used to it!
Got to say here in New York our numbers are down and our vaccinated numbers are up. Those that are getting it are just getting what seems like a lesser strain.
Booster shots available in the SF Bay Area, took mine last week at CVS.
Cliff
I'm not supposed to get my booster until December.