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Would this be a good substrate for a planted discus tank?
https://www.jbl.de/en/products/detai...-beige#6707400
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Hi,
Would this be a good substrate for a planted discus tank?
https://www.jbl.de/en/products/detai...-beige#6707400
Thanks
Substrate whether in a discus tank or otherwise can be very difficult to clean, I prefer to pot my plants and use a fine gravel for substrate.
Jeanne
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What makes the gravel easier to clean?
I can only speak from my experience, if you're plants are potted you can pretty much clean all around them on the bottom ,where as a plant substrate is going to make a mess when you go in there to clean.
Jeanne
Did you mean gadget like this. https://www.amazon.ca/Python-16PC-Pr...34648225&psc=1
Hi and welcome Janivr .
Theese planted substrates are ideal for plants , especialy if you run a high tech planted with additional fertilization .
They are not well suited for discus though, because they trap a lot of dirt and gunk and may foul the water more than discus can tolerate .Plants on the other hand love dirt and gunk , deep in their root zones .
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So what substrate would be best for low-tech discus tank?
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Inert pool filter sand. You can use root tabs for planted plants and secure ferns, anubias etc to rocks or wood
Too tough for plants. I need something in the between.
Please advise.
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It's not too tough. I'm growing out a ton of stem plants in my shrimp tank using sand. However, if you want, you can buy some of eheim substrate or any plant substrate of your choice and add it to the back half of the tank and then cover everything with sand. So you'll have a half inch of sand up front and about 1.5inch in the rear.
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Would you please share some pics so I can learn?
If I put substrate (height?) under the 1/1.5 inch sand I'll have less dirt?
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Sorry, my shrimp tank is 100% pool filter sand. I was just throwing out an idea of what you could do it you are adamant about having planted substrate.
If you have never done discus before and you really want to learn a planted tank, you might have to set up two tanks. One, to learn the discus requirements and, then, one to learn the planted tanks and its requirements. When you're more experienced ,then you can merge the two.
I had discus planted with gravel. Not good.
(Very long time ago).
I guess my question should be how hard it to maintain a clean tank with substrateor which option is better.
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The best compromise IMO would be PFS sand with thin layer of plant mineral substrate or dirt traped underneath .
I do pots for my planted discus tank and they are made in this , dirt capped with sand , manner.
Layering substrate in a discus won't work for long. It must be deep cleaned using a pathon around the plants. You can use roots, rocks, ranches and even leaves if you want a natural looking discus tank. Discus in the wild are usually not found where plants grow year round. More in flooded forest areas. Best answer so far is post #6 IMO.
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Where can I see your planted discus sand tanks?
Here is my thread from my grow out tank :
In the first post of the thread you have another link from the previous set ups :
http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...t-thread/page4
This is sand? How did the plants grow?
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Here's one of mine from years ago - Pool filter sand - approx. 1/2" in front, and no more than 2" at the rear where the plants
are located - the plants did well with root tabs and some liquid ferts.
Attachment 125045
Here's another - about a year before the previous one, also PFS with juvenile red snakeskins, and fairly similar plantings set-up.
Attachment 125046
Nice! Is it still low-tech or it requires higher maintenance because of the ferts.
If I put the JBL proscap, no need to worry about ferts and it provides good water quality for the discus...
Low tech and easy maintenance.
IME with discus and to the best of my knowledge, there is no plant-beneficial, or plant-friendly, substrate material that provides sufficiently good water quality for discus. Go with PFS.
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Amazing!
What do you think of this one?
https://youtu.be/uG8d3FPf3ag
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Too weird for me
Jeanne
Some would say that fellow sure knows how to aqua-scape, and the finished product looks great.
Overall though, it's a very poor environment and set-up for discus, imo- for a variety of reasons.
It's a risky big trouble for discus waiting to happen.
Have I found a friend in Mervin, and why not go into detail with your beliefs along with Paul after all this is a open forum regarding the keeping of discus, whats the worse that could happen
Jeanne
Jhappen
I would call this a grand slam for a very experienced expert in both discus and planted tanks , BUT without the carpeting plant .
Full grown discus , a lot of daily maintainence , very low bioload along with a lots of experience , would be able to pull this off with discus in it on the long run .
So, it is better to have substrate only or leave some space for sand?
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You have already asked this question in your first post of this thread and there have been at least a dozen post from different members explaining the pros and contras of both substrate and sand .
Please go back and re read the thread to find an answer to the same question that has already been discussed here.
I've asked about planted discus tank.
I hot lots of great answers. Thanks.
Now, following those answers, I was wondering how difficult it is to maintain a clean aquarium with both substrate and sand (as Andrea designed) vs. substrate only.
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Many hours of love, devotion, know how and labour each and every day.
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How difficult it is to maintain a clean aquarium with both substrate and sand (as Andrea designed) vs. substrate only?
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It is not dificult to maintain a clean substate, but you gotta clean it. Most folks might skip this during WC's.
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And havnig a mixed substrate like Andrea did, may help to keep it clean or will require more/same cleaning policy?
Most folks on here seem to like sand for "discus", so that debris don't get trapped like pea stone/ gravel would. With sand you can get away with skimming most of the waste from the bottom.