Same spawn 2weeks...
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-al
Hi all,
I haven't posted much lately here in my homestead, truth is I barely have time to breath some days... but got to talking with Rick Owen about a few things and I remembered some old pics I had taken...
These Pics were taken in Jan 2002... using a digital camera system hooked up to a stemi scope. I had used this system in the lab I worked in..They were digital images at a time when Digital images were new.
I had posted these pics as part of a time line of development on a group of fry from a wild Green Male X wild Snakeskin... the original posts were lost when we got hacked 7 or 8 years ago. I did raise the fry to adult hood... yet sadly lost them when a bad shipment of fish blew through my hatchery back then. They were gems...oh well...no sense crying over dead discus and all that work
anyhow Pics... one week old...
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-al
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Same spawn 2weeks...
eye1b.jpg
head1b.jpg
whole2a.jpg
cmmeasur.jpg
whole1a.jpg
-al
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Rick... on this I week image... The arrow indicates cement glands location...I think.
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Wow. Nice pics of fry Al. I wonder if we can do this without a scope only using a macro lens (may be not I think).
So I feed little aliens all day long LOL.....Josie
Very nice AL, where some of the other pictures you showed me from an electron microscope? The ones showing the cement glands?
Rick
Ex-President-North American Discus Association-NADA
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Lol.. yes, they don't look very good at a young age... I'm looking thru volumes of Cds for more pics as they grew up....the change is striking.
I think a good macro lens on todays digitals can do as good or better.. These were 2002... a decade in digital and optics technology is immense.Wow. Nice pics of fry Al. I wonder if we can do this without a scope only using a macro lens (may be not I think).
actually, you can take a pretty good macro by inverting an old lens using a reversing ring..turns it into a microscope..the lighting is tricky with that... and camera shack has to be zilch.
-al
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Rick, Those ones are from a book...I don't have the right to post them...which stinks. I'm going to try and contact the editor for that...we'll see..sometimes they can be real sticklers.
al
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Rick, Those ones are from a book...I don't have the right to post them...which stinks. I'm going to try and contact the editor for that...we'll see..sometimes they can be real sticklers.
Yup, I am aware of that and understand completely. I hope you are succesful in gaining those rights as those pictures are fascinating (at least to me). What I was asking ( I highly doubt any of us can afford, let alone operate an electron microscope ) if the ones in the book were indeed taken using one IYO.
thanks again
Rick
Ex-President-North American Discus Association-NADA
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Cement gland is used to attaching to cone/wood as wigglers? Ugly little guys at such a tender age but pretty cool pictures.
Rick, yes, I do think they were taken as such. I've seen alot of Electron Micro scope pics and they have a certain look to them... and theres a level of detail, depth, and texture that you get. I wish I had access to one...I could have alot of fun.
and yes Pat...cement glands are what holds the fry to the cone before free swimming.
-al
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Okay... found some pics of these guys growing up... for this set I am switching cameras..so the images are pretty bad...I don't even recall what kind it was , but it was old..maybe an HP? still digital..
dad..wild green...common
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Mom... female 9 bar snake ...not a great specimen... but its not always what you see.
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about 2.5 months old by the photo dates
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again... 2.5 months..
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Al, that last picture is 14 bar yet mom was a nine bar snake ...or does the snake imply 14 bar in the fry? For sure I am not up on my genetics.
Okay... fast forward to about 8-9 months by image dates...
This is a few months before I lost the whole batch.
These images were made with a top of the line ...at the time NIKON Coolpix...maybe 4.5 megapixels. we had one at work and I was able to borrow it.
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and that is why I always have been a fan of crossing a wild to a domestic!! such variability means so much potential for new things.....and yes I was devastated to lose these...
okay... thats it for my walk down memory lane.. Just want to add one more as I came across this in my pic search. I lost a good friend this past New Years Eve ... My faithful cat Darwin passed away here at home after 16 years..
This one is from him back about a decade ago... looking over my little girl whose Not so little anymore.
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RIP old man.
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