Vintage Strain Development

[Second Hand Pat]

One of the sponsors approached me a while back about the possibility of recreating one of the vintage US strains. Apparently the US was known once upon a time for having a palette of it's own strains. Many which retained some of their wild characteristics.

The recent spawning of my wild Tefe's has placed me in a unique situation to try and recreate the vintage RSG which apparently looked like a nicely spotted royal Tefe.

While it has been my goal to breed my wilds. Developing a strain places those goals at a whole new level with a multiple year commitment, dedicated tanks and totally different way of looking at my fish.

[Second Hand Pat]

So for this first year I will be raising the first generation of foundation stock using the two successful spawnings of my wild Tefe's. The first spawn is Batch A, approaching three inches and is four months plus old. The second spawning is Batch B and turned four weeks old today. Both spawns have the same mother but different dads. So here is my "eve" female.



and the dad of the Batch A



Together on their first clutch of eggs.

[Second Hand Pat]

For the second successful spawn the female selected a different male and I call this spawn Batch B.

Female with her new beau.



and the new mate.

[nc0gnet0]

Be nice to see a picture of a fish that resembles what your ultimate goal is.

Rick

[schomin]

cool project look forward to seeing the results.

[nevsfish]

hi its great to see that more discus breeders are going along the line of trying to bring back the old colours.far to many discus keepers are not interested in the old type colours and thats a shame.i for one applaude the efforts of people like yourself for not getting sucked into the hype of the what i call the candy coloured discus scene.i love wild type discus and slowly more breeders are thinking the same way.good luck in your future breeding attempts.regards lawrence

[Sune]

Very nice Discus, and a very nice thought/goal! I would love to see the "classics" again in the market, even though i live in Denmark. Mostly (in europe) we see the Red Turk(German) but the many other "old" strains has vanished, and has been replaced by lollipop discus. I really do believe that the strongest discus (minimum flaws, fast growth) is the "Nachtzuchten" (F1, F2, F3) and the non-inbred lines from these. I think you're project is of high appreciation for many Discus lovers as well for other breeders who wants "unspoiled" breeding material. The best of luck to you.

Sune

[Second Hand Pat]

Be nice to see a picture of a fish that resembles what your ultimate goal is.

Rick

Something like this Rick, from a Jim Quarles book...

[Second Hand Pat]

cool project look forward to seeing the results.

Thanks schomin, keep in mind that is is a multiple year project especially working with wild greens who mature between 18 and 24 months.

[Second Hand Pat]

hi its great to see that more discus breeders are going along the line of trying to bring back the old colours.far to many discus keepers are not interested in the old type colours and thats a shame.i for one applaude the efforts of people like yourself for not getting sucked into the hype of the what i call the candy coloured discus scene.i love wild type discus and slowly more breeders are thinking the same way.good luck in your future breeding attempts.regards lawrence

Hi Lawrence, being a wilds keeper the domestic strains do not really appeal to me. You might appreciate this thread showing some of the classics (link below). Also many discus keepers today have never seen the older classic strains.
Pat

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...ast&highlight=

[Second Hand Pat]

Very nice Discus, and a very nice thought/goal! I would love to see the "classics" again in the market, even though i live in Denmark. Mostly (in europe) we see the Red Turk(German) but the many other "old" strains has vanished, and has been replaced by lollipop discus. I really do believe that the strongest discus (minimum flaws, fast growth) is the "Nachtzuchten" (F1, F2, F3) and the non-inbred lines from these. I think you're project is of high appreciation for many Discus lovers as well for other breeders who wants "unspoiled" breeding material. The best of luck to you.

Sune

Thanks Sune, appreciate that. What is the "Nachtzuchten"? You have any link you could share?

[schomin]

Thanks schomin, keep in mind that is is a multiple year project especially working with wild greens who mature between 18 and 24 months.

Yeah I figured it would be a while but, it will be worth sticking around to see how it goes.

[Second Hand Pat]

Yeah I figured it would be a while but, it will be worth sticking around to see how it goes.

Totally true since I am already raising the first generation.

[Brokenrack]

Honorable pursuit best of luck!
Scott

[Trevor W]

Honorable pursuit best of luck!

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