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    Default Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Since I get asked this a lot here goes. My water parameters for my wilds are

    PH - 7.2-7.4
    GH - 4dGH ( x 17.8) = 71.2 ppm
    KH - 4dKH
    TDS - around 80 - 100

    My water consists of a RO/tap mix or about 2/3 RO to 1/3 tap. I do find my tap has seasonal variations between wet and dry season (I live in Florida) where the TDS drops a bit in the dry season (Dec-May)

    My primary target is the hardness of the water or GH and according to Dale Jordan the sweet spot is about 60/70 ppm. Also according to Dale PH become secondary to GH. So 4dGH x 17.8 = 71.2 ppm.

    For those who know or know of Dale one thing he could do is get his wilds to breed consistently. So I am following his guidelines and the wilds breed. I know there are varying opinions of Dale here on Simply but I request we focus on the water parameters for wilds and keep past forum politics in the past.

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    Pat

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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Thanks Pat - equipment for the wilds tank is what I have been looking at today to make all these water conditions happen
    we will talk
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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Look forward to it Bud.
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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Great post Pat!
    Thank you for sharing that with us.
    What test kits do you prefer to use for the GH?
    Last edited by Trevor W; 03-30-2013 at 07:40 PM.

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    Thanks for posting this Pat. I haven't kept wilds yet but I thought they need more acidic water but I was unaware GH is more important than pH.

    What I have heard from the some member that Dale had a magic touch with wilds and had some awesome pairs.
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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor W View Post
    Great post Pat!
    Thank you for sharing that with us.
    What test kits do you prefer to use for the GH?
    Nothing fancy Trevor, I have the API Master freshwater kit and the separate API GH/KH kit. I do not even own a ph meter. I may need to reconsider that once those heckels mature.
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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Quote Originally Posted by Poco View Post
    Thanks for posting this Pat. I haven't kept wilds yet but I thought they need more acidic water but I was unaware GH is more important than pH.

    What I have heard from the some member that Dale had a magic touch with wilds and had some awesome pairs.
    You are welcome Babar. Dale did have some awesome fish. I do maintain occasionally contact with him.
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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Nothing fancy Trevor, I have the API Master freshwater kit and the separate API GH/KH kit. I do not even own a ph meter. I may need to reconsider that once those heckels mature.
    Good to know thanks! I personally don't test for pH I do however have both an inline and external TDS meter. The inline meter is for testing my product water from my rodi unit and it let's me know when I need to replace my filters. The external is from when I was breeding domestics and so I could figure how much ro to add to my aging barrel which will now be used for mixing water for wilds. I will be sure to pick up a GH test kit and factor that into determining an appropriate mix for wilds.

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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Nothing fancy Trevor, I have the API Master freshwater kit and the separate API GH/KH kit. I do not even own a ph meter. I may need to reconsider that once those heckels mature.
    The kh/gh your referring to are the strips??
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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Zach, I use liquid tests. There strips are not correct enough for me.
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    Default Re: Pat's Water Parameters for Wilds

    Gotcha
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