What the H#^€¥?

[Eward]

I came down tonight to turn off the lights to find large blackish spots on my Flechen. His fins look a little raggedy too... Here is questionnaire. Will try to post photo. FYI in the photo his eye looks messed up, but it is fine- bad picture.

Please complete the questionnaire if your fish are sick (copy and paste)

DISEASE QUESTIONNAIRE


Problem

1. Please explain the problems with your fish/when and how they started

Problem started tonight. 5" Flechen suddenly has large dark brown/black spots . Fin look a bit ratty, they were fine earlier today.



2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/ white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds)

Just has black spots- not dark black, brownish. Also having a little trouble swimming, but one of his fins looks damaged.




3. What medications/ treatments that you have already tried and results. Include dosages and duration of treatment.
None, it just happened tonight.




Tank/Water

4. Tank size and age, number and size of fish

60 gal. 4 5" discus, 4cory cats, 1bn pleco

5. Water change regime/ how long has tank been running/ bare bottom or gravel/ do you age your water?

40% daily, aged water. BB no substrate, but 2 pieces of drift wood, and 2 amazon sword plants.

6 Parameters and water source;

- temp __86___

- ph ____8.2_

- ammonia reading ___0_

- nitrite reading ___0_

- nitrate reading __5 ppm__

- well water ____

- municipal water __y__

7. Any new fish/plants added recently no

[Eward]

http://s1295.photobucket.com/user/Ce...tml?sort=3&o=0
This should be the picture, but I can't figure out how to post picture

[Skip]

[Skip]

Is ur pleco sucking on its side

[Eward]

Really? It's a very small pleco. Could it be from " fighting" with his tank mates? I've seen him getting into squabbles with the Turk. They are chasing each other and nipping

[Second Hand Pat]

When my guys fight the marks are small blackish marks but I have wilds so unsure about domestics. Those marks do look round to me so really do not believe it is from fighting/nipping.

Eward, from the picture the eye appears to be a bit puffed out or is it just the picture?

[Eward]

Just the picture. Thanks for the info. I think you guys are right, they look like hickies to me. Any treatment other than clean water, amd remembering to feed the pleco ?

[lipadj46]

Just the picture. Thanks for the info. I think you guys are right, they look like hickies to me. Any treatment other than clean water, amd remembering to feed the pleco ?

Its too late, once they get the taste they need to be removed from the tank. If clean water does not start too clear things up in the next few days you may want to try furan-2/bifuran

[Second Hand Pat]

Clean water should do it but once a pleco gets a taste of discus they may not stop. I learned this the hard way and rehomed the pleco. Could you rehome the pleco temporary to rule him out as a problem source?

[Eward]

Yes, I have another tank for him

[PP_GBR]

If Furan-2 is not available at LFS, try Tetra Fungus Guard.

[Skip]

If Furan-2 is not available at LFS, try Tetra Fungus Guard.

Why

[PP_GBR]

Main ingredients: Nitrofurazone & furazolidone

[Eward]

No fungus guard on hand, but I do have metro powder and Prazi pro, and tetra para guard- which of course is only for parasites, and won't help me at all ! I don't plan to do anything except water changes and salt if necessary

[PP_GBR]

Sound like a good plan. Just in case you have to treat him, Petsmart carries Tetra Fungus Guard.