Thanks all.
Lizzie has her thorns but overall is pure love juice. She'll hang out in the yard with me and just follow me around. perfect. Mr. Chubbs... He'll walk off needing to sniff and pee on anything taller than a dandelion.
Flowers, trees and discus have a lot in common for me. The colors, shapes and if you give them the basics in consistent quantities and patience, you're rewarded 10 fold. Not without a few ahshits and losses but nothing is perfect.