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    Hello! I've recently decided to transform my 56 gallon aquarium into a planted discus tank! Nothing like a good challenge, but I'd like to be prepared.
    First off, here are the system's specs:
    DT: 56 gallons 36 x 18 x 20 inches
    Corner overflow
    15 gallon sump with sponges, GAC, and another biomedia, I'm considering a refugium....
    Eheim Compact 3000 on lowest setting
    two 75 watt heaters and one 100 watt heater running at like 90, keeps the tank around 80-83
    Aquasoil and gravel substrate, low lying manzanita wood, and plenty of swords and cryps (A bit thin right now due to the move)
    My questions were, if I converted the tank to a discus tank which one of these lists would you do?
    List 1:
    2 Discus
    3 or 5 Three Stripe cories
    11 to 15 Rummynose or cardinal tetras
    Maybe 5 Hatchetfish, if getting these I'd do 11 tetras
    List 2:
    Maybe 4 Discus
    3 to 5 Cories
    Maybe a couple other fish
    List 3:
    5-6 Discus (I've heard this is fine, but I'm assuming I'd have to up the filtration)
    List 4:
    What you suggest!
    Then I'm planning to use my old planted tank, use big PVC pipes to hiding, or a clay pot, sponge filter, daily to every other day filtration, grow them, get them eating, light meds if no symptoms occur, if more obvious ones occur I'll do more heavy meds. I'm planning the QT/growout should take a couple months
    I'm planning on getting them from a local breeder, I like the Red Scribblet and Albino Blue Diamond/Cobalt 2 inch specimens he/she put up.
    Thank you!

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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    5-6 discus.. Growing out discus in a planted tank is usually not recommended here on SD, but can done with exceptional care and maintenance.

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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    I was going to grow them out in a different tank until they got large enough.
    Thanks for your input!

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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    I'd definitely go with option 3 to avoid aggression issues. 56 is a little tight, but can be done.
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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    Cool, should I maybe upgrade the sump a little bit?

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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    I forgot you were planning to use a sump, don't know how much that will help. Others here surely will.
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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    I have a sump on there, the tank is established

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    Option 3. With good filtration and sump, you could add corys and some cardinals. The tank with good filtration and wc should handle the 5-6 discus. Keep check on parameters. I like to use an ammonia alert inside the tank. It will show the smallest spike in ammonia, then reset when the ammonia is removed. Then you can test for nitrite and nitrate less frequently after the tank is fully cycled.
    Last edited by OC Discus; 12-17-2013 at 11:41 PM.

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    Thanks! I'll be sure to get one! Reefers love using those during QT and raising fish like clownfish!

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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    Just tested!
    Amm. 0
    Nitrite 0
    Nitrate around 5 (That surprised me)
    PH around 7.3

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    If you get 5-6 discus, you need at least a 55g to grow them out in for up to a year, depending on initial size. To grow them large and healthy, 4-5 feedings per day and daily water changes of 50% are recommended. Much easier in a bare bottom tank. You could always upgrade to planted tank later, or start with adult discus.

    You will probably be happier to clean out all the gravel and plants before adding the discus and add all 5 or 6 from the same source at one time. This eliminates stress and disease from crossing strains and sources. Kenny and Hans probably have the largest selections to order all at one time. I would decide which strains I want and try to order them all together. Have the tank cleaned, cycled and running when the discus arrive. If you have other fish, you will need to quarantine them in a separate tank for about six weeks before combining (search quarantine using search feature).

    Also, no need to medicate unless you are treating a known condition. Medication can harm the fish.
    Last edited by OC Discus; 12-18-2013 at 12:05 AM.

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    Default Re: When is it overdoing it?

    Hmmm, then I'm getting adults, school takes a good 8 hours out of each day....
    I'll get adults, not big ones though, or grow babies out if I can try my best....
    I really don't want to take my whole aquascape out, just not possible to me But that would help, maybe get a cheap 55 gallon of CL
    Ok
    What about 1 Mated/Bonded pair of discus with some peaceful tankmates?

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    That would work. If you want to raise fry you should read up on that first. Mated pairs are high from a retailer, less from an individual.

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    I think I'd like to do that for a few reasons:
    I could have a bit more smaller fish like Tetras.
    I could watch fish parent their fry and help raise them and maybe even sell them! (Which would make a great science report too! lol)
    Not to mention it'd be less of a hassle for me, although I could care less how much work it is.
    I've seen some nice bonded and mated pairs on craigslist, usually around $150-$300+ depending on the variant.
    BTW I just looked at Hans store, WOW! I think I've died and gone to heaven!

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    Hans probably has the largest selection of pairs in the country. They are expensive, but you can see pictures of the actual fish you are getting.

    Good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1.0reef View Post
    I think I'd like to do that for a few reasons:
    I could have a bit more smaller fish like Tetras.
    I could watch fish parent their fry and help raise them and maybe even sell them! (Which would make a great science report too! lol)
    Not to mention it'd be less of a hassle for me, although I could care less how much work it is.
    I've seen some nice bonded and mated pairs on craigslist, usually around $150-$300+ depending on the variant.
    BTW I just looked at Hans store, WOW! I think I've died and gone to heaven!

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