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    The rest of the babies are in. The wild discus seem to ignore the domestic babies, probably because they are so small! I introduced an adult domestic discus today after a couple weeks in the 20g, thought it would bring joy to the ignored domestic babies...but who knew it was so mean! I'm surprised by how brave the big domestic discus is, it hasn't even tried to hide in the rosewood branch cave or under the giant anubias leaves. I think the wild blue discus are a bit distressed by the new adult, because their emotion bars are showing. *sad face*. Hopefully they'll adjust to the new guest after a few days. On a happier note, the old vals have shed their decaying, stressed leaves and brand new ones have grown in since they were planted. yay! And the white film on the wood is slowly going away.


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    You should search this site about quarantine of new fish. Your wilds are very nice.
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    normal behavior, nothing out of ordinary in video
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    normal behavior, nothing out of ordinary in video
    I hope! I do think the wild blues are a bit stressed by the newcomer, who is trying to establish dominance. They are cichlids after all, c'est la vie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwoods Discus View Post
    You should search this site about quarantine of new fish. Your wilds are very nice.
    Op said he quarantined the new fish in a 20Gal for a couple of weeks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor W View Post
    Op said he quarantined the new fish in a 20Gal for a couple of weeks....
    I think i'm supposed to do it 4-6 weeks..if I understood his suggestion correctly. I just felt bad for the babies because the wild guys ignore them. :-( It was also hard to see the adult in solitary confinement. Maybe a terrible gamble.

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    Fair enough I just thought that perhaps he may of thought that you just dumped the fish in there. Yea a longer quarantine in most cases is best but atleast you quarantined the fish for a couple weeks instead of just throwing it in there and then posting in the disease forum like we all see so very often.
    Also no offence was meant to Northwoods Discus just thought he may have mis-read your post.

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    It's advisable to put one of your previous fish in with the new one rather than putting the new fish in with all your previous fish as well. Better one sick fish if there's a problem rather than a whole tank full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor W View Post
    Fair enough I just thought that perhaps he may of thought that you just dumped the fish in there. Yea a longer quarantine in most cases is best but atleast you quarantined the fish for a couple weeks instead of just throwing it in there and then posting in the disease forum like we all see so very often.
    Also no offence was meant to Northwoods Discus just thought he may have mis-read your post.
    Yeah, I have fallen prey to impatience and sympathy for my little stunted babies. They just want some love! I hope I don't have to post in the disease forum (crossing fingers) and watch them more closely...not that observation now will be preventive, hopefully just catch early signs of illness. I noticed this AM the new domestic adult is still shaking once in a while, I thought it was just the shock of the transfer yesterday night when I put it in. I'll check the water parameters tonight when I get home.

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    Oops I'm so sorry I missed the two week statement. My bad. I do like your wilds. Hope all goes well with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northwoods Discus View Post
    Oops I'm so sorry I missed the two week statement. My bad. I do like your wilds. Hope all goes well with them.
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    No problem! I like them all...the wilds for their history (being abducted from their native streams/lakes) and the domestic ones for their personalities. The domestic babies will nibble my finger and one of them lets me stroke its side (since I'm imprinted as "food source"). They may be stunted, but they are bursting with personality!

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    Unrest in the discus family. I came home to discover one of my two wild blue discus fish hiding under a giant anubias leaf. I observed for an hour, only to discover the new domestic discus I introduced yesterday night bullying the crap out of one of the wild blues! It's ignoring the other wild Heckels, and it has found a way to separate the two wild blues that used to be best friends. I'll give it a few days, if the bullying doesn't stop I'll have to take out the domestic adult discus. The video shows the domestic adult being mean to the targeted wild blue discus. I also found a possible explanation for the shivering (seems to have increased compared to yesterday night when I dumped it in the tank)...I found a small healing gash on the domestic discus' forehead. If it starts to look worrisome, I'll put some melafix in the water. Right now I'm just going to leave it alone.


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    Don't put any meds in! That "gash" you are refering to is nothing that I would be concerned with. In my opinion the shaking or shimmying that you are seeing is telling me that the domestic turq is wanting to breed with on one the wild blues. Looks to be probably a male due to the aggresion towards that other blue and in wanting to split the 2 blues apart. It even looks like it is starting to pick at stuff in a cleaning manner. The only real way to tell if it is a male is to see a successful spawn. But I would guess that this is just typical premating behaviour.
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    Thanks. Just vacuumed the sand a bit so I can spook the domestic turq to reset its little aggression (thanks!...wasn't sure what the name was). I just did a search on pre-mating behavior and you're right, definitely a possibility. He (or she) is "shimmying" really often around the wild blue and separating his other wild blue friend, and I don't know if the separated blue will handle being torn from its friend. I noticed its oviduct or spermatic duct on the underbelly sticking out after I observed the domestic turq pooping to make sure the poop is still the same. Good luck to this guy/gal if s/he wants to mate, because the wilds are not having it. No means no!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevor W View Post
    Don't put any meds in! That "gash" you are refering to is nothing that I would be concerned with. In my opinion the shaking or shimmying that you are seeing is telling me that the domestic turq is wanting to breed with on one the wild blues. Looks to be probably a male due to the aggresion towards that other blue and in wanting to split the 2 blues apart. It even looks like it is starting to pick at stuff in a cleaning manner. The only real way to tell if it is a male is to see a successful spawn. But I would guess that this is just typical premating behaviour.
    Trevor W, looks like domestic turq is claiming the rosewood branches. I spotted the turq staking out the rosewood area this AM...sorry for the low light but I didn't want to spook the other sleeping fish.


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