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    Elliot, this thread was watched like a hawk.

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    Ha haa... yeah, I believe that. Just hope everyone remembers the intent of Al's message so we can at least put that argument to rest for awhile (it'll never go away entirely but a little reminder from time to time helps). Funny thing is I love the hell out of planted tanks but would be the first to admit that you'll find BB's have a hell of a lot more advantages for discus health wise. I guess since I can only have one tank then I have a good ol' time with the plants.

    Would like to see a contest in the future for some of the experts (and yes, definitely plenty of experts on here; not being sarcastic) raise some fish in a planted tank. It'd be my own guilty pleasure watching & following along (and soaking up the lessons learned for my own benefit). And no, Toni would not be allowed in the contest. That just wouldn't be fair. Her water produces freak'n bigfoot discus. (where the heck is she by the way?)
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    Ive been missing her too. Pmd her today to see whats up. Havnt heard anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Discus View Post
    This is the tank I want in my living room.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8m2S...layer_embedded
    This looks like the restaurants where you can choose the fish they are going to fry for you


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    Bigfoot Discus....lol classic !! and yes been looking out for Miss Strawberry too !
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    Bigfoot Discus....lol classic !! and yes been looking out for Miss Strawberry too !
    Hmmm, you mean these guys? Bigfoots?? LOL

    20140215.jpg

    Took a quick pic for ya...the pigeon blue on the left of the Marlboro was a 6" adult when Hans sent him to me 5 months ago. Now he's the same size as my 9" Marlboro, Flachen, RT and Golden Sunshine. =)
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    discus, 4 cory's, 50+ Cardinals for now... give it a month and it'll change!

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    Who do your fish hang out with? Alex Rodriguez???
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    Good to see you again Toni. Those fish are awesome. I bet they could splash a gallon of water out of the tank if the lid was off. What size tank do you keep them in and what do you feed? I remember that you have magic water too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Discus View Post
    Good to see you again Toni. Those fish are awesome. I bet they could splash a gallon of water out of the tank if the lid was off. What size tank do you keep them in and what do you feed? I remember that you have magic water too.
    she has posted this before.. they foods were all store bought dry and frozen foods.. <<<surprised me..

    the key ingredient she used to grow out.. 2 x daily water changes..
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    Skip, what brands of food where they? I remember the discussion previously attributing her success to the water. It is amazing that water changes can make that much difference. Do we have a resident biologist (Al) who can explain "how" daily or twice daily water changes make so much difference?

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    tetra bits.. flake.. san fran. frozen beef heart..

    something like that..

    don't get stuck on the foods.. its the water changes that made difference..
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    And lots of food I'm sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Discus View Post
    And lots of food I'm sure
    HERE.. read it and learn..
    http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...-time-for-Hans

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    I'll do my best to give you all my secrets to success.

    Water - Idaho tap, pulled from aquifers in basalt

    pH from tap - 7.8+
    pH aged 24h - 7.8+
    Nitrates - 0.5 - 5.4ppm depending on the time of year (heavy agricultural community out here)
    Chlorine (Cl2) - 0.29 - 0.46 Higher during summer months
    Total THM's - 4.3 year round

    I don't age my tap water since there is virtually no change in pH over a 24 hour period. I use a double dose of Safe during the summer months. Nitrates aren't generally a problem, but are always present in the tap water at low levels.

    Discus Foods given daily
    Discus Flake food from various makers (OSI, etc)
    Spirulina Flakes
    Prime Reef Flakes
    Al's FDBW
    San Fransisco Bay Brand Frozen Beefheart

    Foods given sporadically
    Frozen Spirulina cubes (good laxative)
    Hikari Frozen Bloodworm cubes (with "sticks" of icky stuff they won't eat included in them)
    Prime Nutrition Discus cubes (too messy!)

    So here's how a typical day looked for the first 8 months of growing out my Hans discus last year:

    Morning feeding - Breakfast of champions (about 2 tsps of flake mix)

    Mid-morning feeding - Frozen Beefheart, 2 cubes to start (went up to 4 per feeding as they grew)

    Mid-morning Water Change - 60% minimum change, often more than that

    Noon feeding - 3 or more Al's FDBW (they each ate a whole one by themselves by the time they were 5")

    Mid-afternoon feeding - Frozen Beefheart, 2 cubes

    Dinner - Al's FDBW, 3 or more cubes depending on how fast they ate it

    Pre-water change snack - Frozen Beefheart, 2 cubes

    9PM Water Change - 90%

    9:30 Bedtime Snack - 2 Al's FDBW cubes and lights out at 10pm

    My tank was a 54g Pentagonal tank with a dark blue background, beige sand, light plants for the first month (then NO plants!) one large driftwood stump.

    Filtration:
    Marineland canister filter
    1 Sponge filter - largest I could find

    Tankmates:
    2 Albino Cories

    When I upgraded to my 115g tank the specs were as follows

    Filtration:
    Simple 40gal sump using poret foam and pump to circulate water @6x per hour

    1/2" Sand
    Same driftwood stump, 2 sword plants in pots

    Tankmates:
    2 Albino Cories
    3 Sterbai Cories
    25+ Cardinal Tetras

    Water Changes went to one 90% change per day in the big tank, but feedings remained the same.

    Ok, that's pretty much all I did for them. No magic pills at all. I still do my daily huge water changes during the summer when nitrates are higher in my tap water, and every other day 90% during the other 9 months of the year.

    I don't have pleco's, I don't obsess about cleaning my filters (every few weeks) but I DO go nuts about cleaning the glass, heaters driftwood! That stuff gets covered in high protein discus slime and it just feels like a breeding ground for bad bacteria to me. Driftwood gets pulled out and hosed off every Sunday. All surfaces get the mag-float treatment at every water change and the sides, heaters, etc get a super duper cleaning on Sundays.

    Ohhhhh, I have MTS in my tank. They drive me nuts these days but are a very handy barometer of how much you overfeed your fish. If you're feeding too much they multiply like rabbits and cover every surface in search of food. LOL
    Jester - S0S Crew Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberryblonde View Post
    Hmmm, you mean these guys? Bigfoots?? LOL

    20140215.jpg

    Took a quick pic for ya...the pigeon blue on the left of the Marlboro was a 6" adult when Hans sent him to me 5 months ago. Now he's the same size as my 9" Marlboro, Flachen, RT and Golden Sunshine. =)
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