Chloramine filter

[dirtyplants]

I have a filter to remove Chloramine, but the end result is ammonia. I am told Ro will not remove ammonia from the water. How do you guys get around ammonia other then aging and gassing?

[100fuegos]

Zeolites will adsorbe amonia.

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[dirtyplants]

Thanks much, but looking for bulk to handle water quickly. If you placed zeolites in filter (HMA) would direct contact for short term be enough to eliminate the ammonia?

[100fuegos]

Dependes on the flow rate and the ammount of chloramines to remove but the short answer is yes. How quickly do you need it to be?

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[dirtyplants]

About 3 gallons per minute.

[100fuegos]

A simple test should get you where you want. Let it flow for a couple of minutes through a zeolite hma filter into a bucket and test for amonia. Adjust the flow if needed.

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[dirtyplants]

This is a possibility thanks, how long will the zeolite last?

[OC Discus]

I have a filter to remove Chloramine, but the end result is ammonia. I am told Ro will not remove ammonia from the water. How do you guys get around ammonia other then aging and gassing?

Wont prime remove the chloramine?

[100fuegos]

Cannot answer that, depends. But try and find zeolites in bulk in some swimming pool stores. I got a 25 Kg sack of a kind specifically to filter water.

Forgot to say that zeolites are rechargeable with common salt NaCl. So you only need to buy once.

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[100fuegos]

Wont prime remove the chloramine?

I am quite sure prime will break chloramine into chlorine and amonia and will detoxify both. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

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[Len]

If you want to use RO, it certainly can remove chloramines. The last stage before the membrane has a carbon block that does just that if you use the right one. Here's one example:

http://www.buckeyehydro.com/chloragu...-carbon-block/

If that's all you want it to do besides remove sediment, forgoe the membrane and it's an HMA filter and no waste water.

[dirtyplants]

What I am trying to do is use HMA from tap. Remove chlorine and chloramine, but what I have heard is that it breaks the bound, leaving ammonia, at the last stage. My choice is to use a holding tank or use chemicals to remove the last stage. Or possibly something like zeolite. I have little in PH jump after aging. So my hopes is to streamline water changes. Keeping holding tanks warm enough this year has been crazy. Do not want to use chemicals if possible.

[Len]

Try giving them a call and ask if that's the case.

[dirtyplants]

Actually talked with them, they said RO and and chloramine filter will leave ammonia free. The zeolite sounds possible providing it can remove enough ammonia on contact. I will swing that past them. When the salt gets into the water system plus other chemicals used during winters here, the more chemicals needed to combat the water system. Running through heaters trying to keep aging tanks warm.

[Ardan]

The Milwaukee water department uses a very low amount of ammonia for their chloramine process. They claim it is so low that it can't be detected on aquarium test kits and that the amount is not harmful to aquarium fish.

What are my fish swimming in? Fish aquarium water information

Milwaukee Water Works water contains chloramines to keep the water bacteria-free after it leaves the water treatment plants. Chloramines are toxic to fish so aquarium keepers must dechlorinate Milwaukee drinking water before using it for fish. You can find dechlorinating agents at tropical fish and pet stores.

The amount of ammonia in Milwaukee water is not harmful to fish. The amount, less than 0.3 milligrams per liter, is below the detection level of the test kits typically used to test for ammonia in aquaria. Fish give off nitrogenous wastes that break down into ammonia. Also, be aware that ammonia tests are easily affected by ammonia that is present in cleaning products such as glass cleaner. Here is some general information about Milwaukee's water quality.

http://milwaukee.gov/water/customer/...ityandhealth#1

hth
Ardan