My Small Wild Amazon

[pastry]

John & Rick, what flaws are you seeing and how could they be prevented? I noticed some dorsal fin flaws in some and some peculiar shapes in a few but just trying to learn. I know I suck with little discus but someday want to do it right. I remember Harry had great pi wows but his very low tds caused gill covers not to fully develope... That's about the extent I know besides feeding and wc's.

mapet, seriously, what you've accomplished is awesome and not trying to take away from that! Hell, I'd cull and keep a few awesome ones.... Then brew a new batch!

[Mapet]

Thank you for your interest and response.
I do not want cull them just yet, because I want them to practice.
And now I do not have for them too much time because I do home repair when I finish i'm moving.
My plan is this:
1. Do not bring a pair for spawning again, the above written reasons.
2 Feed the babies, let them grow for the time being.
3. When I move, make a selection.
4. For those with defect I wanna practice shipping.
Pack them in different ways, to check on the water and their condition after two days.
I myself do not like when someone sends me a fish and I recive them in smelly bad water, full of nitrates, poor condition, frozen.
I would like everything to be the best and I don't wont to sacrifice those nice.
I would do it best, then cull those with defects.
I know I have to do it, because I'm not going to sell the fish, which I would not want to have in mine aquarium.
As Elliot wrote, probably it was my fault that some of them have defect fins because they had too soft and too acid water when they batch.
I promise that next time will be better.

[pastry]

I'm learnng right alongside you Mamet Still want to learn what they are seeing and solution. You can practice shipping to me if you want. I'll be a Guinean pig. Pm if you want and we can figure out something.

[Jack L]

I know your really proud and you should be congratulated on your successful spawn of wilds. However, these fry are showing issues and your now at a cross roads. Many of these will be culls. You might be better served scrapping the batch and starting over, and lets see if we can insure the same thing does not happen to the next batch.

-Rick

hmmm, at what minutes/seconds did you see the worst ones? or was it all of them?

[Jack L]

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rick/john, do these look like culls too?

[Jack L]

Thank you for your interest and response.
I do not want cull them just yet, because I want them to practice.
And now I do not have for them too much time because I do home repair when I finish i'm moving.
My plan is this:
1. Do not bring a pair for spawning again, the above written reasons.
2 Feed the babies, let them grow for the time being.
3. When I move, make a selection.
4. For those with defect I wanna practice shipping.
Pack them in different ways, to check on the water and their condition after two days.
I myself do not like when someone sends me a fish and I recive them in smelly bad water, full of nitrates, poor condition, frozen.
I would like everything to be the best and I don't wont to sacrifice those nice.
I would do it best, then cull those with defects.
I know I have to do it, because I'm not going to sell the fish, which I would not want to have in mine aquarium.
As Elliot wrote, probably it was my fault that some of them have defect fins because they had too soft and too acid water when they batch.
I promise that next time will be better.

ummm.... are there not some known and shared procedures on packing and shipping fish by this point??

[nc0gnet0]

hmmm, at what minutes/seconds did you see the worst ones? or was it all of them?

I can't say it's all of them, just a good portion of them. It's primarily fin issues, but for six week old fry they appear to be awfully small.

But heads up, it happens to the bet of us, better to temper your expectations now, and I am sure there will be a few keepers in there. here is a batch of mine that had similar issues, you can see how it progress's. Mine might have actually been worse. Do pay attention however to the size at six weeks, as well as how the fin development progressed:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...F1-(ARSG-x-VR)

[Jack L]

I can't say it's all of them, just a good portion of them. It's primarily fin issues, but for six week old fry they appear to be awfully small.

But heads up, it happens to the bet of us, better to temper your expectations now, and I am sure there will be a few keepers in there. here is a batch of mine that had similar issues, you can see how it progress's. Mine might have actually been worse. Do pay attention however to the size at six weeks, as well as how the fin development progressed:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...F1-(ARSG-x-VR)

read though it, thanks for info.

was the F1, the more solid colored one?

[rickztahone]

I can't say it's all of them, just a good portion of them. It's primarily fin issues, but for six week old fry they appear to be awfully small.

But heads up, it happens to the bet of us, better to temper your expectations now, and I am sure there will be a few keepers in there. here is a batch of mine that had similar issues, you can see how it progress's. Mine might have actually been worse. Do pay attention however to the size at six weeks, as well as how the fin development progressed:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...F1-(ARSG-x-VR)

cool thread Rick, TFS

[Mapet]

These small fish i'm not sold, some went to my friends and the rest of them ...

Some of them at my friend aquarium.





My fish are still alive, I will soon come back.

[woopaul5]

Looks great!!! Thanks for sharing

[plecocicho]

The small ones dont look so bad..How big and old are they now? Anyhoo you now have a second chance.

[jawfish]

Hey Mapet.
Glad the discus are doing well. I've been looking forward to updates.
The pair looks good.

Keep them comming
Fred

[Mapet]

Hi

Looks great!!! Thanks for sharing

Thx.

The small ones dont look so bad..How big and old are they now? Anyhoo you now have a second chance.

5 month? My friend told me, they are around 3 -4 inch.

Hey Mapet.
Glad the discus are doing well. I've been looking forward to updates.
The pair looks good.

Keep them comming
Fred

Oh yes, they doing well, because when i did remodeling my home (i almost finish), I don't change water over 1,5 month in their aquarium.

[Mapet]

3 day's later...
False start continiued...