gill flukes treatment for fry

[fisher]

pp is a good treatment for gill flukes for adults and fry .............. what is the dosage require for fry .....and what age can I start treatment .

[rdiscus]

Don't think it's good treatment for fry ...

[DonMD]

Praziquantel might be a safer bet, it's very easy to dose.

[nc0gnet0]

What makes you so sure your fry have gill flukes?

[fisher]

flukes builds a resistant to most drugs including prazi ........................ but pp and formalin and formalin malachite green mixture and acriflavin can not build resistance against ............... with short or long baths make a Difference ................... for shore eggs is resistance . but dose for fry is a paradox ....

[fisher]

I took a sample from dead fry gill under a microscope

[John_Nicholson]

Cull the fry, Clean up the parents, and start again. You will be miles ahead in the long run.

-john

[Bill63SG]

Cull the fry, Clean up the parents, and start again. You will be miles ahead in the long run.

-john

What John said.I had this happen to a batch of RSG's and rick talked me thru it.Had a spawn of about 150 and when I was done ended up with around 30 after about a week of twice daily water changes.I chalked it up to a learning experience.

[fisher]

Cull the fry, Clean up the parents, and start again. You will be miles ahead in the long run.

-john

for shore discus pair will not get rid from flukes 100% ...... even we do 3 treatment pp or formalin ........... extra .......all we can do reduce gill flukes for minimum ................ if we success to do that with fry what the problem !

[John_Nicholson]

If you can't get your pairs clean then you should not be trying to raise discus. Any meds you put in the water will have side affects on the fish. If your change water is coming in with flukes then you will need to clean it up before using it.

-john

[nc0gnet0]

for shore discus pair will not get rid from flukes 100% ...... even we do 3 treatment pp or formalin ........... extra .......all we can do reduce gill flukes for minimum ................ if we success to do that with fry what the problem !

I guess the problem with this statement, if you accept it, is that your saying that any fry or young juvenile discus you sell will have some flukes?

I am not sure I can accept that......


-Rick

[brewmaster15]

Medicating fry is pretty hard them...I've tried in the past and they never do as well as un-medicated fry. Theres a perception out there that all discus have flukes...and I don't subscribe to it. I think its more accurate to say all discus can carry them, and can easily be infected by them. Often why treatments are ineffective is they don't go long enough or at the right dose, and more likely then not, the Hobbyist gets they "i wanna a new fish" itch and they add discus or non-discus that have flukes, in effect undoing all they work they had done. Its why Flukes are called the Gift that keeps on giving.

I always assume discus I get have flukes for the above reason.. but I don't believe all discus have flukes inherently.

al

[fisher]

not even one ............ adult or fry not infected with gill flukes .... sample under microscope proven that fact ......... get ride 100% with medication is so difficult and complected .......................... i thought all we do in clean pair is reduce flukes and cut Life cycle . false or true

[brewmaster15]

Not sure if theres a language barrier here...Im not saying that medications are more effective than "but pp and formalin and formalin malachite green mixture and acriflavin can not build resistance against". I AGREE with you on the resistence part...its far less likely to occur when using dyes and oxidizers than medications. Just that I think you can erradicate flukes in your stock.
hth,
al

[fisher]

Not sure if theres a language barrier here...Im not saying that medications are more effective than "but pp and formalin and formalin malachite green mixture and acriflavin can not build resistance against". I AGREE with you on the resistence part...its far less likely to occur when using dyes and oxidizers than medications. Just that I think you can erradicate flukes in your stock.
hth,
al

yes i agree with you my language is so bad ........ thanks for your great Information and valuable advice .