They look great already.. Good luck and breed us some :0) Congrats on a great find
About a month ago I decided I wanted to give wild angels a try and narrowed my wishes down to Manacapura Red shoulders. Not so easy to find though. After doing a lot of searching I found an old post on one of the angelfish forums stating that Jon (Mugwump) bred them. Just happens that I know Jon from a Discus forum so I shot him a PM asking if by chance he had any available for sale. To my surprise he replied that he had some Manacapura F2 and Sta Isabel x Rio Negro F2's pre breeders that he was growing out for his own breeder stock and he thought he could part with 3 of each. After waiting out yet another snow/ice storm they finally arrived 1 week ago. I've kept and bred a good many domestics but never wilds. These guys are sooooo different especially at feeding time. It has been fun watching them settle in. Anyway here are some pics and a video I took tonight. You can see the red starting to come out in the shoulders.
Larry Bugg
NADA - Vice President
Atlanta Area Aquarium Association
They look great already.. Good luck and breed us some :0) Congrats on a great find
i thought you said you only could get 3?? Tank looks really good and fish look great. I especially like the green/blue sheen on the one.
~JACKLYN~
Nice Larry and best of luck with breeding them. From the looks of them, they have still have some growing to do. Should we ever meet up again I have two F1 Manacapura (not red shouldered) you could have if interested.
Pat
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Thanks. I do plan on breeding them and may also use them to cross into some of my domestic stock.
As Pat said, there are two different types in the tank and I could only get three of each, so six total. The ones with the blue sheen are actually wild crosses that originated from Neil Oyama. They are a Santa Isabel x Rio Negro/ P Blue. Still look wild but do carry the domestic P Blue gene.
Your are right Pat, they do still have some growing to do. They are not quite a year old. Jon says they have just started showing some of their color but have a ways to go yet. Like wild discus, their coloration doesn't show until they have matured. Along with the red shoulders intensifying the Sta Isabel/Rio Negro will hopefully also develop some of the red spotting they are known for. Do your Manacapura show any of the spotting? Here is a domestic cross I have with the red spotting from either Manacapura or Santa Isabel.
Larry Bugg
NADA - Vice President
Atlanta Area Aquarium Association
Larry,
Theres some nice colors on those angels... sounds like a very fun project you got yourself into! Be interested to watch as this one unfolds!
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ah yes Larry, 3 of each, I misread.
~JACKLYN~
One of these days I want to see your fishroom but in the mean time....if you are ever in the area
Pat
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Pat, Your angels with the red spotting are the kind I used to have.. Wish I could find more.. I never bred them but they grew out nicely... I got them from Uncle Ned's... lfs... He gets a lot of interesting fish, both domestic and wilds...
Man pat if you don't mind shipping I would take the angels off your hand
Beautiful Algels. That's a lot of fry I saw in that video.
I've had these guys for about a month now. The red shoulders are starting to show more. Sometime between last night and this afternoon someone had a pretty decent spawn. Pretty sure the one guarding the eggs is the male but I have no idea who the female is. Didn't see the eggs laid and by the time I saw the clutch there were no tubes down. The male is the biggest of the crosses.
Larry Bugg
NADA - Vice President
Atlanta Area Aquarium Association