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    Default Re: Pat's Altums - Take 2

    Jealous Pat! Hope these do well for you like the others. I will keep them someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discus-n00b View Post
    Jealous Pat! Hope these do well for you like the others. I will keep them someday.
    Thanks Matt, I actually hope to do better with these guys then the last batch. Looking for zero deaths and for all to maintain those massive fins which makes them so regal. I hope one day you will have them too.
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    Very true, better is always well....better! I haven't fully kept up with the Altum happenings but do the fins just get constantly nipped or are they just lost in captivity?
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    Based on my personal observations Matt with the first group. I had three Altums whose fins got infected when dragged across the bottom of a dirty tank. The fish developed small white fuzz balls on the tips of the fins and the fins were reduced to just a stub. The fins never grew back on those fish. This happened on three of the nine fish from the first batch.
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    Can't wait Pat. I was tempted last time when you got yours to get some of my own, but I am not ready for an RO unit and the whole shabang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickztahone View Post
    Can't wait Pat. I was tempted last time when you got yours to get some of my own, but I am not ready for an RO unit and the whole shabang.
    Let me tempt you Ricardo

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    It is difficult to believe these will become the giant vertical fish that we are so used to seeing! They are so tiny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickztahone View Post
    It is difficult to believe these will become the giant vertical fish that we are so used to seeing! They are so tiny!
    They sure are.
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    What a different live BBS makes to the feeding response.

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    Looks like a blizzard of BBS Pat!! Cool video! They look awesome...

    What are your recomendations for these, tank sizes, care etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillydubs View Post
    Looks like a blizzard of BBS Pat!! Cool video! They look awesome...

    What are your recomendations for these, tank sizes, care etc?
    Phil, the first bit of advice I received from Al was to treat them like discus fry so from that I do daily water changes and daily wipe downs. I found keeping the water and tank clean helped to keep the fins clear and from getting infected. On my last batch (2014) I did have three which were getting picked on quite a bit and I separated these three from the larger ones which helped. I think if I had left the group together those three would have been toast. But two did get infected fins and lost the nice large fin extensions which gives these fish the wow factor.

    Paul (pcsb23) advised during a daily 30% and one 50% WC a week to aid in allowing the ph is fall naturally and maintain a TDS of 30 so my water makeup is mostly RO with a dash of tap. Both the 2014 batch and this one is keep in a 40 breeder and if you note the tannins in the water I add rooibos tea to the water. The tea has both anti-bacterial and anti-fungal properties. Rooibos tea was originally recommended to me by the folks on finarama.

    As you can see I am feeding BBS but have also introduced live white worms and Al's FDBWs and some have taken a bit of both. Later I will move them to a 75 and finally they will go in my 240.
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    Pat here you go again. Not only is it a pleasure for me to see you working with angels, but that you now gone for a 2nd batch of Altums. Congrats and many well wishes on raising this batch.
    Jorge Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyAngels View Post
    Pat here you go again. Not only is it a pleasure for me to see you working with angels, but that you now gone for a 2nd batch of Altums. Congrats and many well wishes on raising this batch.
    Thanks Jorge, appreciate it
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    Pat they are SO cute! I can't wait to see how they grow in your tank. I'd love to try them myself, but have to limit myself since I'll be fulltime rv'ing in another 18 months...waaaah! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberryblonde View Post
    Pat they are SO cute! I can't wait to see how they grow in your tank. I'd love to try them myself, but have to limit myself since I'll be fulltime rv'ing in another 18 months...waaaah! LOL
    Thanks Toni and they are cute...fish on stilts lol. I hear you on future fish projects
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