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    Default Re: Playing With Water - Low Ph

    When I started this thread the ph in the Cuipeua tank was 7.13 which was right after I did a WC where the water was prepped at noted in the first post. The ph has since drifted below the 7.0 mark to about 6.90.
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    Pat,

    Try a box of these.

    http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=21338

    I purchased a bulk supply (6 boxes thinking that I would replace them once a month). I used 1 box so far and have not added any new one. It will drop your pH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscusOnly View Post
    Pat,

    Try a box of these.

    http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=21338

    I purchased a bulk supply (6 boxes thinking that I would replace them once a month). I used 1 box so far and have not added any new one. It will drop your pH.

    Van
    Thanks Van, what size tank are you using this in?
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    Pat,

    I started with 1/2 a box on a 75 gallon. I added to the tank via a media bag in the AC110. It gave me some nice tannin but as it wore off, I put in the other half. Instead of dumping out the old ones, I just spread it on the bottom of the tank. I am using RO water only. pH drops down to low 4's within 12 hours. 50% WC brings the pH up to mid 5's For now, I don't have any tannin color but I didn't want to mess with the tank much as I think I got the water to be where I wanted. Slowly, I am thinking of adding a piece of DW but I never have good experience with those, especially with low pH water. I may put a little of the tea you suggested back soon.

    I need to recalibrate my EC meter but don't have the correct solution (need to order some). With the TDS meter, it's around 60ppm.

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    Thanks Van, it could take a lot of peat to affect the ph in this tank which is 230 gallons. So far the ph is falling slowly. Tomorrow I am doing a 50% WC and expect to see an small increase in ph and have it drop back down. The ph is currently 6.91.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Thanks Van, it could take a lot of peat to affect the ph in this tank which is 230 gallons. So far the ph is falling slowly. Tomorrow I am doing a 50% WC and expect to see an small increase in ph and have it drop back down. The ph is currently 6.91.
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    Are you using the peat in your tank, or are you using it to condition the water in you water change barrel? If the tank, wouldn't you continually have fluctuating water conditions every time you did a water change?
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    Rick, not using peak currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Thanks Van, it could take a lot of peat to affect the ph in this tank which is 230 gallons. So far the ph is falling slowly. Tomorrow I am doing a 50% WC and expect to see an small increase in ph and have it drop back down. The ph is currently 6.91.
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    Pat,

    It took me a few months with the peat in the tank and using RO only. I've only used 1 box of the 1lb super peat so far and have not used anymore. I began using it at the end of June.

    I introduced the tea back to the tank last night to add some color and did see a small slight bump in pH (4.2 to 4.3) When I get a chance over the weekend, I'll post a video of the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nc0gnet0 View Post
    Are you using the peat in your tank, or are you using it to condition the water in you water change barrel? If the tank, wouldn't you continually have fluctuating water conditions every time you did a water change?
    I know the question was to Pat but Rick, I do get the pH to swing up to mid 5's whenever I do WC and add new RO. Overnight the pH drops back to the 4's. If I do too big of a WC, it will take I up to 6's.

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    Default Re: Playing With Water - Low Ph

    Quote Originally Posted by nc0gnet0 View Post
    Are you using the peat in your tank, or are you using it to condition the water in you water change barrel? If the tank, wouldn't you continually have fluctuating water conditions every time you did a water change?
    Quote Originally Posted by DiscusOnly View Post
    I know the question was to Pat but Rick, I do get the pH to swing up to mid 5's whenever I do WC and add new RO. Overnight the pH drops back to the 4's. If I do too big of a WC, it will take I up to 6's.
    Even thru I am not currently using peat. To add to Rick's question and Van's observation...I do see a ph rise from 5.5 to 5.9 when I do a 50% water change on the altum tank. The ph drops back to 5.5 over a 24 hour period. So after the initial ph fluctuation the water parameters are steady. Please note the ph changes does not bother the altums one bit. If there is any fish sensitive to change it is altums.

    Also note that my observations in the altum tank is what has lead me to try this on the Cuipeua tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Even thru I am not currently using peat. To add to Rick's question and Van's observation...I do see a ph rise from 5.5 to 5.9 when I do a 50% water change on the altum tank. The ph drops back to 5.5 over a 24 hour period. So after the initial ph fluctuation the water parameters are steady. Please note the ph changes does not bother the altums one bit. If there is any fish sensitive to change it is altums.

    Also note that my observations in the altum tank is what has lead me to try this on the Cuipeua tank.
    Pat,

    A few years back, I met Bev and Dale Newcomer who was raising altums and was trying to get them to breed. I believe they were using RO in their tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscusOnly View Post
    Pat,

    A few years back, I met Bev and Dale Newcomer who was raising altums and was trying to get them to breed. I believe they were using RO in their tank.
    Van, one of my altum mentor's is breeding altums successfully and he is the source for how I am prepping my water for my altums. I am using RO water only for the altums, no added tap...but I do use RO Right (to adjust the TDS to 100) and Discus Essentials for additional minerals. Look at the fins on these guys.
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    Default Re: Playing With Water - Low Ph

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscusOnly View Post
    Pat,

    It took me a few months with the peat in the tank and using RO only. I've only used 1 box of the 1lb super peat so far and have not used anymore. I began using it at the end of June.

    I introduced the tea back to the tank last night to add some color and did see a small slight bump in pH (4.2 to 4.3) When I get a chance over the weekend, I'll post a video of the tank.
    Would love to see a video of your tank and fish Van...thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Would love to see a video of your tank and fish Van...thank you.
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    Nice Van, they are nice and beefy and active like discus should be. Do they prefer to blow at the peat more so the sand? If yes that indicates the type/color of bottom they would prefer to hunt in. Do you add anything to your RO water?
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