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    As a side note I just seen this
    http://irongripadhesive.com/?utm_sou...paign=IronGrip

    So I called the GE tech support number to see if it could be used on aquariums and was told they no longer recommend any of their line of silicone for aquariums and have actually now put a disclaimer on all new tubes of their silicone. I told the tech that I have used it for going on 20yrs with no problem. He then went on to tell me that an RTV product through Grainger and actually used the word DAP to point me to the right silicone to use.

    Guess we now need to use the 13$ a tube silicone made specifically for aquariums these three below he specifically pointed me to....

    http://www.americansealantsinc.com/a...arium-sealant/

    http://www.amazon.com/Aqueon-1001650.../dp/B0002ASD34

    http://www.homedepot.com/p/DAP-2-8-o...0688/100128841

    just an FYI

    He wouldn't say why the change just that they can no longer recommend their products for this use.

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    You're already moving the fish into the display tank. QT is over at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    As a side note I just seen this
    http://irongripadhesive.com/?utm_sou...paign=IronGrip

    So I called the GE tech support number to see if it could be used on aquariums and was told they no longer recommend any of their line of silicone for aquariums and have actually now put a disclaimer on all new tubes of their silicone. I told the tech that I have used it for going on 20yrs with no problem. He then went on to tell me that an RTV product through Grainger and actually used the word DAP to point me to the right silicone to use.

    Guess we now need to use the 13$ a tube silicone made specifically for aquariums these three below he specifically pointed me to....

    http://www.americansealantsinc.com/a...arium-sealant/

    http://www.amazon.com/Aqueon-1001650.../dp/B0002ASD34

    http://www.homedepot.com/p/DAP-2-8-o...0688/100128841

    just an FYI

    He wouldn't say why the change just that they can no longer recommend their products for this use.
    I just checked the bottles of GE #1 and there is no mention of aquarium use on them at all, either good or bad. Maybe it's only the newest bottles... Well, that ship has sailed in my case. Good info for the future though.
    220 gallon bare bottom 6x2 foot by 30 inches tall. Stocked with 10 juvenile pidgeons and 4 turquoise, along with 10 blackline tetras and a pleco. Wet\dry filter in the sump and LED lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nofearengineer View Post
    You're already moving the fish into the display tank. QT is over at that point.
    I'm not sure what you mean by this. Can you clarify?
    220 gallon bare bottom 6x2 foot by 30 inches tall. Stocked with 10 juvenile pidgeons and 4 turquoise, along with 10 blackline tetras and a pleco. Wet\dry filter in the sump and LED lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayy View Post
    I just checked the bottles of GE #1 and there is no mention of aquarium use on them at all, either good or bad. Maybe it's only the newest bottles... Well, that ship has sailed in my case. Good info for the future though.
    well they also used to say Food grade(contact) or something like that and aquarium safe somewhere on the tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    well they also used to say Food grade(contact) or something like that and aquarium safe somewhere on the tube.
    That was removed a while now

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    well they also used to say Food grade(contact) or something like that and aquarium safe somewhere on the tube.
    Quote Originally Posted by dragon1974 View Post
    That was removed a while now
    Makes one wonder why it was removed and IF they changed the formula of the silicone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    Makes one wonder why it was removed and IF they changed the formula of the silicone.
    To me it sounds like standard attempt to avoid any liability. But who knows.
    220 gallon bare bottom 6x2 foot by 30 inches tall. Stocked with 10 juvenile pidgeons and 4 turquoise, along with 10 blackline tetras and a pleco. Wet\dry filter in the sump and LED lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    Makes one wonder why it was removed and IF they changed the formula of the silicone.
    Think I was on another forum many moons ago asking the same questions and one of the mods were talking about the liability angle also. I think they didn't want to get the cleaning bill if anyone's tanks goes boom or anything. But for peace of mind I would just use what was posted as alternatives. TBH, anything pure silicone should work, I've used the HD stuff with no ill effect on a 125 gal. But I was just making it look good and I didn't have any leaks. For something like this 220 gal I would have tried to see if the makers would have come out to fix the side that leaked. I think miracles have this service but don't quote me on that. I had a 220 that I was looking to clean up and didn't want to do the work. It would have definitely costed more but I would have rathered not hearing my wife cherp my ears off about 220 gals of water in the basement. In the end its up to how much you want to pay.

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    Default Re: Starting out with a used 220 gallon aquarium

    Quote Originally Posted by pitdogg2 View Post
    As a side note I just seen this
    http://irongripadhesive.com/?utm_sou...paign=IronGrip

    So I called the GE tech support number to see if it could be used on aquariums and was told they no longer recommend any of their line of silicone for aquariums and have actually now put a disclaimer on all new tubes of their silicone. I told the tech that I have used it for going on 20yrs with no problem. He then went on to tell me that an RTV product through Grainger and actually used the word DAP to point me to the right silicone to use.

    Guess we now need to use the 13$ a tube silicone made specifically for aquariums these three below he specifically pointed me to....

    http://www.americansealantsinc.com/a...arium-sealant/

    http://www.amazon.com/Aqueon-1001650.../dp/B0002ASD34

    http://www.homedepot.com/p/DAP-2-8-o...0688/100128841

    just an FYI

    He wouldn't say why the change just that they can no longer recommend their products for this use.
    $13? You can almost buy 3 of these with that money
    http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail....FQWUfgodNXUC8A

    And that is MEANT for an aquarium

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    Default Re: Starting out with a used 220 gallon aquarium

    Quote Originally Posted by dragon1974 View Post
    That was removed a while now
    For Canadians the best one to use is Multi-purpose Clear Silicone II Sealant from Home Hardware.It says on the package Safe to use on aquariums https://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/i...Silicone&Num=0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayy View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by this. Can you clarify?
    If you're taking the discus out of QT and putting them into the display tank, why not take the QT tank biofilter and take it with them? It's obviously been providing enough filtration for the discus. It isn't as if the biofilter is going to transfer something to the display thank that the discus wouldn't.
    People say planted discus tanks are unnatural. I wish I could figure out why the Amazon is so muddy...with that bare glass bottom it has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickztahone View Post
    $13? You can almost buy 3 of these with that money
    http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail....FQWUfgodNXUC8A

    And that is MEANT for an aquarium
    I was referring to this one and yes I know you can find it cheaper. I for the most part was taken back by the GE tech who had no shame in telling me i was full of poo poo cocka. I know darn well for years I bought the GE 100% silicone and know for a fact it said what it said.

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