Seachem Pristine

[rickztahone]

Can this product be used with a reactor? Paul, do you use Purigen in a reactor or by way of other means?

[discuspaul]

Can this product be used with a reactor? Paul, do you use Purigen in a reactor or by way of other means?

You were probably referring this question to the other Paul, however I'd like to mention that I don't use Purigen in a reactor, but I'd like to try it, since I feel quite sure the adsorption capability would be significantly greater with the Purigen beads moving around constantly, rather than sitting static.

However, Pristine seems to be a totally different product with the bacteria slowly but steadily breaking down the evident wastes, and I can't imagine a reactor helping that to occur more effectively.

[afriend]

Can this product be used with a reactor? Paul, do you use Purigen in a reactor or by way of other means?

Pristine is not used in a reactor, it is introduced directly into the tank and the bacteria reside in the water column, substrate, and the biological filter.

I use Purigen in a custom made reactor. Seachem sells Purigen in loose form or in a bag that is placed in the path of water movement. The loose form is cheaper than the bag form. Also, the bag tends to compact the Purigen beads and blocks water flow thru it.

Here's a link to details on my reactor:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...urigen-Reactor

Here's a link to my complete filtration system:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...tration-System

Here's a link to how my filtration system functions:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...stem-Functions

Also contained in one of the links above is a description of how to modify a HOB reactor to hold Purigen.

Hope this is helpful.

Paul

[afriend]

You were probably referring this question to the other Paul, however I'd like to mention that I don't use Purigen in a reactor, but I'd like to try it, since I feel quite sure the adsorption capability would be significantly greater with the Purigen beads moving around constantly, rather than sitting static.

However, Pristine seems to be a totally different product with the bacteria slowly but steadily breaking down the evident wastes, and I can't imagine a reactor helping that to occur more effectively.

You are correct about the use of Purigen in a reactor. When I first tried using Purigen I purchased the bag form and placed it in the path of moving water. After a couple of weeks, I carefully cut the bag open to examine the Purigen beads. Purigen turns dark as it absorbs organic material. It was obvious by examining the beads that the water was channeled such that only a small portion of the beads were coming into contact with the water. I would guess that loose Purigen in a reactor is at least 10 times more effective.

Paul

[Poppa Ryno]

I was talking about this with a friend and pointed me to this. Says they seem to be identical products. Ill have to check both these out. Thank you for posting afriend.

[Poppa Ryno]

Sorry link didnt load last post
http://www.aquavitro.com/products/remediation.html
Is the identical product i was speaking of.

[rickztahone]

You were probably referring this question to the other Paul, however I'd like to mention that I don't use Purigen in a reactor, but I'd like to try it, since I feel quite sure the adsorption capability would be significantly greater with the Purigen beads moving around constantly, rather than sitting static.

However, Pristine seems to be a totally different product with the bacteria slowly but steadily breaking down the evident wastes, and I can't imagine a reactor helping that to occur more effectively.

Thanks Paul

Pristine is not used in a reactor, it is introduced directly into the tank and the bacteria reside in the water column, substrate, and the biological filter.

I use Purigen in a custom made reactor. Seachem sells Purigen in loose form or in a bag that is placed in the path of water movement. The loose form is cheaper than the bag form. Also, the bag tends to compact the Purigen beads and blocks water flow thru it.

Here's a link to details on my reactor:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...urigen-Reactor

Here's a link to my complete filtration system:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...tration-System

Here's a link to how my filtration system functions:

http://forum.simplydiscus.com/showth...stem-Functions

Also contained in one of the links above is a description of how to modify a HOB reactor to hold Purigen.

Hope this is helpful.

Paul

Good info. So, since it is a liquid and not an actual mass item, then it can be dosed via dosing pump? In conjunction with a purigen reactor, that may be a very valid approach to clean water.

I have a spare reactor lying around that I may give the purigen a crack. Don't know much about it so will have to research it further. With me thinking about switching over this discus tank to sand/DW, it is good to know that I may have something as an aid on top of my WC's.

[bamzam]

I wonder...how would this affect planted tanks and the nutrients that waste provides? I like the idea of less slime in my tubes...

[discuspaul]

Sorry link didnt load last post
http://www.aquavitro.com/products/remediation.html
Is the identical product i was speaking of.

Yup - sounds like exactly the same type of product as Seachem's Pristine.

[warblad79]

I wonder if this product are the same as those overly hype Pure Aquarium Balls, I remembered people went nuts buying those stuff and actually I tried them myself but didn't notice any difference instead I change more water and my routine. The results are way better

[rickztahone]

I wonder if this product are the same as those overly hype Pure Aquarium Balls, I remembered people went nuts buying those stuff and actually I tried them myself but didn't notice any difference instead I change more water and my routine. The results are way better

One thing I will say is that I also got some of these bio balls and I felt they actually worked with my cycle. I think everyone's mileage will vary, but for me, it was worth the try.

[DJW]

Yup - sounds like exactly the same type of product as Seachem's Pristine.

I think Aquivitro and Seachem are the same company.

[Poppa Ryno]

Aquavitro is indeed a division of seachem

[jim LI]

This is just an FYI from SEACHEM

Pristine works well with all of our products and filter medias. It is simply beneficial bacteria that helps to breakdown large detritus in the aquarium, as well as, provide bacteria for your biological filter. If you do 60% water changes daily, it would not hurt to add a dose of Pristine several times a week after the water change. Especially if you are cleaning the filter. Any time you do maintenance on the filter, you are potentially disturbing the beneficial bacteria, so adding Pristine will compensate for that.

[DJW]

I think this stuff is worth a try, but the skeptic in me has the following questions:

If the main reason we strive to keep our tanks clean is to keep low the numbers of bacteria that are feasting on detritus, wouldn't it be counterproductive to add bacteria? After all, it is not the detritus itself that is a problem, but the bacteria that are decomposing it. Or are the bacteria in Pristine somehow different-- do they displace more harmful types?

And a well-established tank that has anaerobic pockets (substrate) should already have colonies of facultative anaerobes.