Unsuccessful pair

[Albanets]

Did you see any wigglers? I would lower bubbles and maybe skip a day of water changes.

[CliffsDiscus]

The water may not be the problem, I have always said that it's more difficult to find a male then a female. Male Discus even proven may not always
fertilize the females eggs, they just do some dry runs,
and this may last for many spawns from the female.
Usually when the male is finally ready, the female may go off her spawning cycle, that's life.

Cliff

[modealings]

I'm not confident I've seen any wigglers. They continue to lay eggs weekly (since August now) but no success. I've tried the skipping a wc after they lay eggs but no difference either. I could turn off the sponge filter during the next spawn and see if that changes anything. At this point I'm just focusing on wc's and healthy feeding.

[CliffsDiscus]

[QUOTE=modealings;1236860]Thanks Liz. I do have to admit that I'm a little skeptical of the tea making a big difference but after 2 months of weekly batches turning white I'm willing to try whatever you pros recommend. It's frustrating in that I have 2 pairs - the other will have a great hatch rate at 200-300 TDS. Unfortunately they like to eat their fry and have recently gone on a break from laying at all.

I will keep up with the tea and standard maintenance and see how things go.[/QUOTE
Try changing to one of your fertile males, this has worked many times for me.

Cliff

[modealings]

A little update, with no good news unfortunately.

These guys went off cycle over the winter and just started laying again about a month ago. I was hopeful that they had matured as they've growth significantly but still no success. On their last attempt the TDS was 20, sponge filter was turned way down, I visualized both fish making runs, and not one egg hatched. Given that I've had them for close to a year now I may just have to conclude that the male is infertile. Admittedly I did stop the tea a few months ago as it was making my aging barrels slimy and I wasn't noticing a difference.

My only other thought is to put them in a community tank and see if that strengthens the bond. Other than that, I'm stumped.

[rickmiles]

In past years I have bought proven pairs that the owners swore they had wigglers, they lied, or they hoped it was a proven pair because they hung around together or did the spawn things that proven pairs do. They were 2 females. I wasted months and months of time because I believed the previous owners.

[Brotoss]

A little update, with no good news unfortunately.

These guys went off cycle over the winter and just started laying again about a month ago. I was hopeful that they had matured as they've growth significantly but still no success. On their last attempt the TDS was 20, sponge filter was turned way down, I visualized both fish making runs, and not one egg hatched. Given that I've had them for close to a year now I may just have to conclude that the male is infertile. Admittedly I did stop the tea a few months ago as it was making my aging barrels slimy and I wasn't noticing a difference.

My only other thought is to put them in a community tank and see if that strengthens the bond. Other than that, I'm stumped.

Any success Eric? I'm in the same boat as you right now...

[AquaWoman]

Yup, mine too. I'm hoping they're just faking it till they make it. I'm not trying too hard though. Mine are in a community tank and all I've done is put up a divider and cover one of the filter intakes with a sponge. My thinking is, I'll let Nature work this out. Plus, if I end up with babies I'll just have more water changes to do!

[Brotoss]

I'm thinking about using RO but I really dont want to mess with water params/ pH. I;m stumped

[CliffsDiscus]

Last would be injection, these are use by salmon and
fish breeders in Asia.

[modealings]

Any success Eric? I'm in the same boat as you right now...

Unfortunately not. After 20 + try's I just gave up on it and traded them.

[Discusamazonicos]

Sad to hear that. I am above the 4th attempt failed