Thanks Phil, will definitely take your advise. Maybe more folks might try wilds in the future. I'm truly glad I make the jump to give them a try, plus didn't break the bank getting them. I asked my family members for a Xmas gift, rather than some clothes, hat, ect., how about pooling together and get dad something I wanted this time around. I guess when you're 67 yrs old and have three adult kids over 30 you can do stuff like this, LOL......