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    Default How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    My girlfriend is already mad at me for getting a new 75 and would hate to get a 55 gallon barrel also. Is there any alternatives or am I going to have to surprise her again?

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Have you tested to see if you need to age? What is your pH change over a 24 hour period?

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clawhammer View Post
    Have you tested to see if you need to age? What is your pH change over a 24 hour period?
    Sorry I forgot to add I didn't check it. Its just a precautionary question. Is it more common than not that it doesnt vary?

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    I suppose I am going to just follow-up erics sentiments all day... lol

    Only way to know is to test. Get a bucket w an air stone. Test from the tap, then fill the bucket and let it age air and sit for 24 hrs and test that... If the swing isn't bad then no need to, if it is, then you will in order to provide for the fish...

    Many people do straight treated tap water changes, others aren't so fortunate...

    Only one way to tell! Let us know tomorrow the results!

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Im going to do it tonight. What if it is off? Is there anything else I can do to age the water?

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    Not really, not without the ph additives that seem to do more harm then good...

    You wait and see what it comes out and we can go from there. If it is a huge swing it could cause the fish stress and isn't a good idea, if it is minimal it shouldn't be a big deal...

    Also, maybe you can do a mix of aged and tap, so that you don't need some big ol barrell to make the lady mad... maybe we can find something more discreet to age water in...?
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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Thanks for your help. Ill text it first and we can go from there. I need a 5 gallon bucket and airstone right?

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Sure no problem, yea anything really to hold water and keep it moving and all... 5 gallon bucket is always easy but your choice just do a larger volume dont let like 1/2 a cup sit there

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    The reason that I age my water is not because of PH swings;it's because of the gas bubbles I get from the tap water with 80% WC's.Which I think is just as dangerous if not more so than a PH swing.

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Quote Originally Posted by bluelagoon View Post
    The reason that I age my water is not because of PH swings;it's because of the gas bubbles I get from the tap water with 80% WC's.Which I think is just as dangerous if not more so than a PH swing.
    I agree.

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Microbubbles are a serious threat, especially so when doing a high percentage water change.

    I had a discus who was on his way to recovery from hex. After the treatment, I made the big mistake of doing a 90% direct from tap water change. The microbubbles covered his gills and severely stressed him out, allowing the hex to again take hold. He never recovered.

    My water has much worse microbubbles in the winter, I believe from the water being a colder temperature, which causes it to absorb more gasses. As it is heated back up, the gasses are released, causing microbubbles.

    I now run any new water through a 50 or 100 micro felt filter sock as I am adding it to the tank. It greatly reduces the microbubbles. I run my aged water through it too because my aging tanks are outside. It is very convenient to clean (washing machine w/ bleach only). This does not however in any way help with the pH swing.

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    A lot depends on the area in which you live and what is put into your water for treatments.I live where the natural water ways are about 6.2 in ph;a lot of acid rain comes our way via central Canada and the north eastern part of USA.Some lakes are even limed.Here in Halifax we use sodium hydroxide to get the ph up to about 7.2 so it don't corrode the pipes.The swing in 24 hours is not worth mentioning.However since our water is acidic to begin with,it doesn't take long to deplete in a fish tank.Aging water also gets rid of Chlorine,that we also use in our drinking water.

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    What was the results of the age??

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phillydubs View Post
    What was the results of the age??
    Tap is 6.8 and aged was 7.0 so I guess thats good?

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    Default Re: How to get same PH with water changes without aging?

    Quote Originally Posted by bluelagoon View Post
    The reason that I age my water is not because of PH swings;it's because of the gas bubbles I get from the tap water with 80% WC's.Which I think is just as dangerous if not more so than a PH swing.
    +1. I hadn't had any microbubble issues until we got into the winter months. I noticed the effects right away with the fish. I don't age so what I did was stuff python with a micron sock and solved the issue.
    Im not illiterate...only my phone's auto correct is

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