It's Bad

[utahben76]

1. Please explain the problems with your fish. When did you notice the problems and did anything unusual happen that you think started them?

Late March this year, I'd had her and her mate about a month. He arrived floating she was doing great. I got him fixed up and a couple weeks later she turned real dark and clamped fins

2. Symptoms (i.e. turning dark, excess slime, not eating, clamped fins, flashing, darting, clamped gills, white/yellow/green poop, hiding, headstanding or tailstanding, white on tips of fins, rotting or fungus, blisters/white zits on fish, bloated, cloudy eyes, wounds).

Then: Dark, clamped fins, eating a pretty good, clear poop

Now: Darkish, fins out, not eating this week, ate some last week

3. What medications/ treatments have you already tried and what were the results. Include dosage and duration of treatment.

Treatment 1: Increasing temp to 88 and adding salt about two weeks. No change
Treatment 2: Polyguard as directed. No change
Treatment 3: Polyguard again as directed. No change
Treatment 4: Prazipro, on day 6 today, stopped eating

Tank/Water

4. Tank size and ages, numbers and sizes of fish.

40 gallon + 15 gal sump, pair about 1-2 years old??? Male +6", famale 5", 4 4" pigeon bloods, 3 3" pigeon bloods, 2 2.5" blue diamonds, 3 2.5" brilliant blues, 1 african feather fin cat fish, 2 electric blue acaras

5. Water change regime (What percentage and how often). 25% daily at 90% on Saturdays. Lately 90% daily


6. How long has tank been running? Is it bare bottom? If you have substrate, what type and how deep is it?

6 months, sump 9 months, bare bottom

7. Do you age your water? If you do for how long and what is the ph swing.

no

8. Parameters and water source;

Note: Water Parameters are important in diagnosing problems within a tank. If you don't own test kits for the following information, you can purchase them, test your parameters and post this info as soon as possible.


- temp 88

- ph 7.6

- ammonia reading 0ppm

- nitrite reading 0ppm

- nitrate reading 10ppm

What type of water or combinations of water sources do you use? If it is an RO/tap/well water mix, please list percentages in the mix.

- well water ____

- municipal water __X__

- RO water ____


9. Any new fish, plants or inverts added recently.

No

10. Please tell us what you feed your fish and how often. This can be critical information for solving the problem so be as specific as you can. Once daily of homemade mix (beef heart, talapia, shrimp, peas, spinach, spiralina powder) or spiralina brine shrimp, or blood worms



11. Include any pictures or videos you have which shows the symptoms. If you can't add them to this post, please provide a link to them.

[Ryan925]

Am I mistaken or are you saying there are 14 discus in a 40?

[utahben76]

There are not usually that many, but I'm doing a deworming treatment on them all. But she has been doing better since the others joined them. A lot less stressed

[Second Hand Pat]

Hi utahben76, your fish is in pretty bad shape. If she was eating she is not able to absorb any nutrients from the food. Looks at her head first and note how thin her forehead is. It is razor thin and continues thru her body. Generally when fish are this thin treating them with meds can easily kill them. De-worming is the right approach but might be too late. Good luck with this.
Pat