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    Default Nutritional analyst please clarify me

    Hi,

    I have been in this doubt for long time. But i didnt get any clear idea in it.

    Everybody says nutritional requirement of discus is 45-50 g / 100 g food.

    Food analysis says beef heart has

    protein 17g
    fat 5g
    water 77 g

    So now may i consider protein value is 17/(100-77)=17/23=0.73 ie 73%

    Is this right way to calculate.

    Is der any nutritional value and vitamin loss ll be der while freezing?

    Pl suggest me.

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    Vasanth

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    Default Re: Nutritional analyst please clarify me

    Vasanth
    I guessing you are talking about a commercial frozen food , do you have the brand name or better a picture of the package in question.
    most people made their own mix of buy for people who take in consideration the protein % requirements.
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    Beef heart
    Variety meats and by-products, cooked, simmered



    This what I found myself , we have to considered now if is cooked, and content per serving size. In this case is about 20% for a cooked 3 OZ or 85g . Notice that water makes a 55.8 g of the 85g.

    Nutrition Facts
    For a Serving Size of 3 oz (85g)
    Calories 140.3 Calories from Fat 36.2 (25.8%)
    % Daily Value *
    Total Fat 4g -
    Saturated fat 1.2g -
    Monounsaturated fat 0.9g -
    Polyunsaturated fat 0.8g -
    Trans fat 0.1g -
    Cholesterol 180.2mg -
    Sodium 50.2mg 3%
    Potassium 186.2mg -
    Carbohydrates 0.1g -
    Net carbs 0.1g -
    Sugar 0g -
    Fiber 0g 0%
    Protein 24.2g
    Vitamins and minerals
    Vitamin A 0μg 0%
    Vitamin A IU 0IU -
    Vitamin B6 0.2mg 17%
    Vitamin B12 9.2μg 383%
    Vitamin C 0mg 0%
    Vitamin D 0.1μg 1%
    Vitamin D IU 2.6IU -
    Vitamin D3 0.1μg -
    Vitamin E 0.2mg 2%
    Vitamin K 0.4μg 1%
    Caffeine 0mg -
    Calcium 4.3mg 1%
    Iron 5.4mg 68%
    Magnesium 17.8mg 6%
    Phosphorus 215.9mg 22%
    Zinc 2.4mg 17%
    Copper 0.5mg 24%
    Manganese 0mg 2%
    Selenium 33.1μg 48%
    Retinol 0μg -
    Lycopene 0μg -
    Thiamine 0.1mg 6%
    Riboflavin 1mg 61%
    Niacin 5.7mg 29%
    Folate 4.3μg 2%
    Choline 194.5mg 36%
    Betaine 3.5mg -
    Water 55.8g -
    Fatty acids
    Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) 0g -
    Total Omega 3 0g -
    Total Omega 6 0g -
    Amino acids
    * The Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet, so your values may change depending on your calorie needs.
    Percent calories from...
    Protein
    73%
    Fat
    27%
    Quick Stats:
    0.1g Carbs
    (0.1g net carbs)
    4g Fat
    24.2g Protein
    140.3 Calories
    Last edited by Pardal; 12-23-2017 at 11:45 PM.
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    Default Re: Nutritional analyst please clarify me

    The key factor is the content of protein as the relation to dry matter and in this case is when it really increase to higher levels close to 50%. This is according to Discus Madness.

    DM Beef Heart Mix.
    Available to everyone, Discus Madness beef heart mix, the same we have been using for years in our hatcheries.
    All ingredients are carefully selected, to insure proper nutrition for your Fish, our DM Beef Heart mix is loaded with Proteins, Vitamins, Minerals and Beta-Carotene.
    Spinach, Spirulina Powder and Garlic are also added to provide a balanced diet.
    Minimum order of DM Beef Heart Mix is 1 LB, will feed 5 Discus for 4 to 6 weeks (do not overfeed).Please note: Special shipping costs apply when ordering frozen fish foods. The cost of shipping & handling is based on weight and destination (1 or 2 Days Air), for as many frozen food a box can carry, a $5.00 additional charge will be added for Dry Ice.
    The cost will be added to your total.
    We ship frozen food ONLY on Wednesdays for Fridays arrival.All Orders will arrive frozen and air packed, chopped in cubes the size of a Discus mouth, ( please keep frozen), you may feed it to your fish as is, our Beef Heart Mix will thaw out in a few seconds and your fish will eat it voraciously, we also offer it whole in 1 LB blocks.
    You tried the rest, now try the best.
    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Crude Protein* 11.2% min
    Crude Fat 1.6% min
    Crude Fiber 4.3% max
    Moisture 81.0% max
    *Protein as a percentage of dry matter 55.0%

    Ingredients: Beef heart, plankton, shrimp, White Fish, spinach, Peas, Garlic, Gel Binder, krill hydrolysate, marine fish meal, refined marine fish oil, wheat germ, Spirulina, vitamins (choline chloride, ascorbic acid including stabilized vitamin C, vitamin E supplement, niacin, thiamin mononitrate, folic acid, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, vitamin A acetate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, beta-carotene supplement, biotin), amino acids (dl-methionine, taurine, lysine), and trace elements (manganese sulfate, zinc sulfate, cobalt sulfate, ferrous sulfate, copper sulfate, sodium selenite).
    Last edited by Pardal; 12-23-2017 at 11:47 PM.
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    Default Re: Nutritional analyst please clarify me

    This is from the San Francisco Bay brand frozen package. notice it's protein content is low, because of the water content as well as it has brine shrimp and daphnia these has their own water content.

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    Last edited by Pardal; 12-23-2017 at 11:40 PM.
    Breeding , interest and goals Wilds Heckels and Cuipeuas and a few Domestics pairs with occasional fry as well as Angels fancy Plecos , corys and shrimps.

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