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    Hello!
    Maybe you can help me figure it out. I have a pair of wild brown 2 generations. Here already 4 masonry I have a problem. Perhaps you can help me?
    Experimented with different water.

    Throwing 1: RO Water add “Tropic Marin Discus Mineral Pro” i get pH: 5.5; ppm: 30; t=27C; KH: 0. In a day, it's 80% dark. After 2 days, 30% live and after 3 days all die.

    Throwing 2: RO Water add “Tropic Marin Discus Mineral Pro” i get pH: 6; ppm: 60; t=30C; KH: 0. In a day, it's 80% dark. After 2 days, 30% live and after 3 days all die.

    Throwing 3: RO Water add “Tropic Marin Discus Mineral Pro” i get pH: 6.5; ppm: 100; t=30C; KH: 0. In a day, it's 80% dark. After 2 days, 30% live and after 3 days all die.

    Then everything repeated. I processed prazikvantel fish and gave it a rest for two weeks.
    Everything repeats and the larva dies. There is an oxidizer in the aquarium.

    All other couples multiply without problems.

    Can you help me? Share the secret.

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    Does this sound water related? Sergey has other pairs and fry and he uses the same procedure with success.

    I am not familiar with Ukrainian water parameters , but I suggested not using the mineral and increasing the percentage or tap. Does anyone else agree?

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    Do you have a microscope? Prazi does not kill flukes or flagellates as well as formalin or copper with heavy salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam S View Post
    Do you have a microscope? Prazi does not kill flukes or flagellates as well as formalin or copper with heavy salt.
    No microscope! In Ukraine they do not know how to use it.
    I specifically always used the drug Morenicol Lermax Pro Colombo before spawning and there were no problems. Formalin is not allowed in our country

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeep View Post
    Does this sound water related? Sergey has other pairs and fry and he uses the same procedure with success.

    I am not familiar with Ukrainian water parameters , but I suggested not using the mineral and increasing the percentage or tap. Does anyone else agree?
    Thank you for helping me!
    In my tap water, the calcium and magnesium cations change to sodium cations using resin in a water treatment facility at home. Do you really think that's good?

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    Happened! I am very happy

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    Congrats Sergey, what did you do different but was it just a manner of time??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Second Hand Pat View Post
    Congrats Sergey, what did you do different but was it just a manner of time??
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    Maybe time. This time I filtered the water with resin DOWEX MB-50.

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    4 months later


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    I have no idea how to judge fry, their growth or anything, but look good to me.

    Are you happy with their progress?

    What's your routine with them (food, water etc)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscusKiev View Post
    Hi!
    Maybe time. This time I filtered the water with resin DOWEX MB-50.
    How exactly are you utilizing the resin?

    Running the water through it prior to adding the water to the tank?

    Or in a filter type setup connected to the aquarium itself?

    Looks intriguing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swedgin View Post
    I have no idea how to judge fry, their growth or anything, but look good to me.

    Are you happy with their progress?

    What's your routine with them (food, water etc)?
    Grow slower than other fish. But it does not bother me.

    Water pipes: pH: 7.5 KH: 9 GH: 12 t=28C

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